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Premier League announces pay-per-view fixtures in October

Spurs' Pipe Dreams

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I bet Sky and BT have more subscribers than ever but the club's don't get extra from that.

2019-22 cost almost £4.5bn for the domestic rights, don't think the blame on this lands on BT/Sky tbh.

This imo is the Premier League trying to make up for lost revenue on match day. Think it's going to backfire, they'll make a little money but most will use the illegal streams that we do already.

Think I've watched 95% of Spurs games for the last 4 years so it really won't make a change for me or many others I would guess. £5 a game or £20/25/month I may be tempted to forget the faff of clicking through overlay ads, streams stuttering or going down but £15/game nah not for me
 

John48

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Sadly it's a yes from me because I'd much rather watch a game than listen to it on the radio.
 

SirHarryHotspur

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If I was Levy looking to maximise income , I believe the PPV money is going to the clubs not Sky/BT , maybe he should have a little word with Jose and ask him to give Bale a few sub appearances and then his first full start in the Brighton game wonder how many would fork out the £15 to make sure of uninterrupted coverage instead of a dodgy stream .
For £15 you get one of the world's most expensive players and superstars Gareth, England/world superstar Harry and Asian/world superstar Sonny, is it worth £15 ??? and of course you might get " I am taking no prisoners" Lamela included.
EFL might be providing free streams for their clubs but do you get International superstar players.
 
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riggi

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Paying to watch a football match?

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Marty

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2019-22 cost almost £4.5bn for the domestic rights, don't think the blame on this lands on BT/Sky tbh.

This imo is the Premier League trying to make up for lost revenue on match day. Think it's going to backfire, they'll make a little money but most will use the illegal streams that we do already.

Think I've watched 95% of Spurs games for the last 4 years so it really won't make a change for me or many others I would guess. £5 a game or £20/25/month I may be tempted to forget the faff of clicking through overlay ads, streams stuttering or going down but £15/game nah not for me
It's a real double if not triple edged sword. Sky and BT are far from blameless that they've paid £4,5bn, they could agree to say stop far earlier in the bidding process, but they obviously calculate that enough consumers will pay for it.

And if they do say stop it's likely they get gazumped by a Google or Amazon or whatever because then they calculate they can afford it.

Bottom line is that it's the people willing to pay whatever is asked of them for PL football, and there are millions of them both domestic and worldwide, who drive the price up.
 

tototoner

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It’s mental that they think they’ll be able to charge so much for PPV. Unless they are planning on a serious crackdown on streams, then all it will do is drive people to watch for free illegally.
They are cracking down, I work for an ISP and I know the Premier League are sending us thousands of URLs monthly that we legally have to block
 

tototoner

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Jeez, what group of adults would sit in a room and think that £15 per game is a fair figure! It’s just profiteering.
£5 a game and I think people would pay it, but £15 is just ridiculous.
Exactly, even a Now TV game day pass is only £10 so they are charging more than that for a game which wouldn't have been earmarked for TV originally, so a poorer product in the quality of the game and add to that a poorer overall product due to no fans in the stadium, need to be either a mug or loaded to pay 15
 

Spurs' Pipe Dreams

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They are cracking down, I work for an ISP and I know the Premier League are sending us thousands of URLs monthly that we legally have to block

Whack-a-mole though isn't it? There's an infinite amount of possible URL's and the people doing it only have to change a domain or slightly tweak the address and they're back up and running
 

ShayLaB

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Man Utd and Liverpool: "Our game should be PPV"

Arsenal and Chelsea: "Our game should be PPV"

Sky: "Nice try...not happening folks"
 

KILLA_SIN

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They should have done a season pass for maybe £150-200 and let ppl pay up front or monthly for a discount rate
 

theShiznit

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I don't know mate. My Russian has never been better.
Don't know about Russian but my Arabic is على نقطة

£5 was the most i was willing to pay maybe £10 for bigger games.

I'll have to dust off my Fire TV and Kodi...
 

theShiznit

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Also, if this is as said "the 5 games each round not selected for TV" then surely it's going to be games that weren't deemed as attractive fixtures.

So we gonna get Burnley Vs Fulham for £15. That's a game only a mother could love. ;)

I really don't see the point, unless it's purely testing the waters for something bigger further down the line...
 

KILLA_SIN

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I think its a testing ground its only out of these situations [covid] like this innovation and new models begin to be explored. I don't think fans will stop going to games but maybe if Sky/Bt began to offer a season pass for club games ST and ticket prices might come down, TV money will stay the same just revenue streams will be re-distributed along different channels.
 
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tototoner

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Whack-a-mole though isn't it? There's an infinite amount of possible URL's and the people doing it only have to change a domain or slightly tweak the address and they're back up and running
It is and then most just use a VPN to navigate around it as the UK ISPs can only block the URL if u access it from the UK
 

tototoner

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Also, if this is as said "the 5 games each round not selected for TV" then surely it's going to be games that weren't deemed as attractive fixtures.

So we gonna get Burnley Vs Fulham for £15. That's a game only a mother could love. ;)

I really don't see the point, unless it's purely testing the waters for something bigger further down the line...
It must be to force the UK GOV hand to let some crowds ( however limited) back in
 

kr1978

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The thing that worries me with this is this sort of thing usually ends up just being the beginning. Take boxing as an example, originally you’d get 1 or 2 massive fights a year as PPV, now there are loads of middling (IMO) fights that are PPV.

There is a danger that it starts out like this and then gradually we end up with the monthly subscription covering the lower interest games and the big games being charged extra individually.
 

Maxtremist

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They should have done a season pass for maybe £150-200 and let ppl pay up front or monthly for a discount rate

I'd assume they may think of that but ultimately we don't know how the season will go? They've only announced the PPV stuff for October, right?

By January, whilst unlikely, we could get some fans back in stadiums. So that might be the end of PPV etc... who knows?

I think the season plan or even a full monthly plan only works if that's going to be what they do for a whole season. But this season is so changeable they can't really commit to anything long term
 

KILLA_SIN

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I'd assume they may think of that but ultimately we don't know how the season will go? They've only announced the PPV stuff for October, right?

By January, whilst unlikely, we could get some fans back in stadiums. So that might be the end of PPV etc... who knows?

I think the season plan or even a full monthly plan only works if that's going to be what they do for a whole season. But this season is so changeable they can't really commit to anything long term
I didn't read the article, reading the comments came across as though it was a season long arrangement.

£15 a game is a lot of money, But sport is a one off viewing event, People watch it live, You don't get catalogue of matches like you would with Netflix or Disney who catalogue shows and films. I mean who is really ever going to back and watch a game from 2017? Also I don't think anyone really gets together with friends to watch the latest Blockbuster or GOT episode. If they were selling games for £5 then people would just all get together and watch the game what their presuming is people will do that and charging the £15 to cover the cost of that. People do it for boxing so they would assume the same for football like people do with the W/C.

Hence the big one off ticket price. An NBA season pass is 25-29 per month. I would guess that would give a good indication to how much a season pass would cost in the UK. If we all wanted to bin off Sky or BT then I don't think there would be much saving. Clubs need TV money and if we shifted over to a live TV viewing model they would want the same revenues they get now.

Would it affect stadiums? Does it affect the US Sports I don't think it does but I've never really looked into it. If an ST binned off his ticket now I would assume someone would take it on pretty quickly. And if someone got rid of an ST how long does it take to get back.

Think they are testing the waters. I'm sure Sky use to do PPV matches 10-15 years ago. I never paid for them because I could never afford them.
 
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