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George94

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Have Arsenal actually had a significant injury all season? I think I get confused because I see their physio on the pitch a fair few times a game
 

cwy21

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Remember when Doku kicked Macallister in the chest and Webb went on TV and supported no PK because he got the ball first?
 

Danny1

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Is there any specific wording on what actually constitutes a foul? To play devils advocate you could argue the ball could have still been in Jesus’ control had Lamptey not brought him down. Whereas if he booted the ball away and then got Jesus on the follow through, he’s not impeding a player that could otherwise get on the ball.

I would say that potentially Jesus could have got it but it’s way more likely that Baleba would have got to the ball first therefore not a foul. If you make a challenge and get the ball then it’s not a foul.
 

rossdapep

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What adds further insult is that this will get brushed under the carpet or have very minimal discussion

Now, flip it around and Brighton got the dodgy penalty and win.

There would be conspiracies on the PGMOL wanting Liverpool to win the league. Arteta would attack the ref and VAR (and get away with it) and TS would have days of creating topics like "Have Arsenal been cheated" with people like Keown buying into it
 

ItsBoris

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Have Arsenal actually had a significant injury all season? I think I get confused because I see their physio on the pitch a fair few times a game

jurrien timber and partey are the two longer ones I can think of
 

cwy21

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Is there any specific wording on what actually constitutes a foul? To play devils advocate you could argue the ball could have still been in Jesus’ control had Lamptey not brought him down. Whereas if he booted the ball away and then got Jesus on the follow through, he’s not impeding a player that could otherwise get on the ball.

A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences against an opponent in a manner considered by the referee to be careless, reckless or using excessive force:
  • ...
  • trips or attempts to trip


Since this was a careless trip here is that defintion.

  • Careless is when a player shows a lack of attention or consideration when making a challenge or acts without precaution. No disciplinary sanction is needed

As you can see the laws of football don't go into a lot of detail and it's more of "you know it when you see it" type game to officiate. Which explains where a lot of the issues probably come from.
 

luRRka

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I would say that potentially Jesus could have got it but it’s way more likely that Baleba would have got to the ball first therefore not a foul. If you make a challenge and get the ball then it’s not a foul.
Unless it's serious foul play like romero on enzo. (But this wasnt)
 

Johnny J

Not the Kiwi you need but the one you deserve
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Have Arsenal actually had a significant injury all season? I think I get confused because I see their physio on the pitch a fair few times a game
Every week Saka has a significant injury before magically recovering and playing every game.
 

Yid-ol

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Have Arsenal actually had a significant injury all season? I think I get confused because I see their physio on the pitch a fair few times a game

Saka has a career ending injury just before every international break.
 

spurs mental

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jurrien timber and partey are the two longer ones I can think of
Being arrested isn't an injury

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ItsBoris

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I would say that potentially Jesus could have got it but it’s way more likely that Baleba would have got to the ball first therefore not a foul. If you make a challenge and get the ball then it’s not a foul.

are you sure about that last sentence? Doesn't seem like that could be the case with the number of hypotheticals that would seem like fouls depute getting the ball first.

also if it’s plausible that two players could get the ball after a questionable challenge then the benefit of the doubt would go the player who was challenged I would think
 

mcbridemartin

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Seriously the officials cannot help Arsenal any more if they tried. Right at the end of the half the assistant gives offside against a Brighton forward in a good position. Flag up straight away, no comment from anyone, and then you look at it and wonder how the assistant does not see the Arsenal full back on the far side playing him onside.

The whole delayed flag thing is very subjective, sometimes they go quick when it is close, some times they delay when it is bloody obvious, but it usually works to the benefit of the favoured team.
 

ItsBoris

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Since this was a careless trip here is that defintion.



As you can see the laws of football don't go into a lot of detail and it's more of "you know it when you see it" type game to officiate. Which explains where a lot of the issues probably come from.

also those rules aren’t even applied by the letter of the law. When has an “attempted trip” ever been given as a foul?
 
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