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ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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Good results all round, this weekend for us. Hope we get something from our game to make it count.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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We're al least three points ahead of Arsenal having played Liverpool and soon City twice.

I'll take that.
 

Pellshek

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Dec 30, 2015
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Kinda feels like the beginning of the end for Pep, doesn't it? I don't mean just because of today obviously, but in general his energy/vibes have been off all season, and it feels to me like he's emotionally withdrawing, which is a thing he does. Wouldn't be surprised if this is his last season in the PL, perhaps barring a CL win.
 

dontcallme

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Mar 18, 2005
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Kinda feels like the beginning of the end for Pep, doesn't it? I don't mean just because of today obviously, but in general his energy/vibes have been off all season, and it feels to me like he's emotionally withdrawing, which is a thing he does. Wouldn't be surprised if this is his last season in the PL, perhaps barring a CL win.
Could be right. Definitely feels like he sees a true success at City is delivering the CL.
 

Hotspur33

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Apr 21, 2014
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Forgive me for sounding a lot like Sean Dyche, but how shit is modern football? I don't get to watch a lot of football these days since I don't have sky or BT. instead I follow a lot of games on the radio, then I'll watch the highlights if I can be bothered. But watching MOTD2 last night really highlighted to me just how much "gamesmanship" goes on currently. (I know it's not a new thing)

Just in the spurs/city game. If I'm honest I think the sterling challenge was a free kick at worst. It's a 50/50 and Stirling actually made contact with the ball first. I'm not saying it didn't hurt Dele. But it was an honest attempt to win the ball.
Stirling definitely dived after the penalty though. He was on his way to the ground before he even got to Hugo. When he ran towards the ball, he has no intention of keeping the ball in play and scoring. Purely get another penalty.
I even thought the penalty was soft. Aguero was sheilding the ball so had a strong stance, Serge tried to get a leg around him. Hardly any contact and Aguero goes down feigning injury. Pathetic.

What's really annoying though is all this kind of behaviour is actively encouraged by pundits and commentators.
 

Marty

Audere est farce
Mar 10, 2005
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Forgive me for sounding a lot like Sean Dyche, but how shit is modern football? I don't get to watch a lot of football these days since I don't have sky or BT. instead I follow a lot of games on the radio, then I'll watch the highlights if I can be bothered. But watching MOTD2 last night really highlighted to me just how much "gamesmanship" goes on currently. (I know it's not a new thing)

Just in the spurs/city game. If I'm honest I think the sterling challenge was a free kick at worst. It's a 50/50 and Stirling actually made contact with the ball first. I'm not saying it didn't hurt Dele. But it was an honest attempt to win the ball.
Stirling definitely dived after the penalty though. He was on his way to the ground before he even got to Hugo. When he ran towards the ball, he has no intention of keeping the ball in play and scoring. Purely get another penalty.
I even thought the penalty was soft. Aguero was sheilding the ball so had a strong stance, Serge tried to get a leg around him. Hardly any contact and Aguero goes down feigning injury. Pathetic.

What's really annoying though is all this kind of behaviour is actively encouraged by pundits and commentators.
As long as refs keep not giving clear fouls just because a players stays on their feet, gamesmanship will always prevail. How many times have you heard a commentator say "he would've got something had he gone down"?

I don't know what you were watching when Sterling went into Alli though. You aren't allowed to go in showing studs, period. It's dangerous and endangering a player's safety, deliberately or not, should be a red card.
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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Kinda feels like the beginning of the end for Pep, doesn't it? I don't mean just because of today obviously, but in general his energy/vibes have been off all season, and it feels to me like he's emotionally withdrawing, which is a thing he does. Wouldn't be surprised if this is his last season in the PL, perhaps barring a CL win.

If he were to win the CL this year, I think he will definitely go, job will be done and I think he’ll be managing in Italy or France next. I suspect he wants to win all the top leagues in europe. You’re right though, he definitely seems to be coming to the end of his time there.

Hope Real smash them in the CL.
 

Tucker

Shitehawk
Jul 15, 2013
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Forgive me for sounding a lot like Sean Dyche, but how shit is modern football? I don't get to watch a lot of football these days since I don't have sky or BT. instead I follow a lot of games on the radio, then I'll watch the highlights if I can be bothered. But watching MOTD2 last night really highlighted to me just how much "gamesmanship" goes on currently. (I know it's not a new thing)

Just in the spurs/city game. If I'm honest I think the sterling challenge was a free kick at worst. It's a 50/50 and Stirling actually made contact with the ball first. I'm not saying it didn't hurt Dele. But it was an honest attempt to win the ball.
Stirling definitely dived after the penalty though. He was on his way to the ground before he even got to Hugo. When he ran towards the ball, he has no intention of keeping the ball in play and scoring. Purely get another penalty.
I even thought the penalty was soft. Aguero was sheilding the ball so had a strong stance, Serge tried to get a leg around him. Hardly any contact and Aguero goes down feigning injury. Pathetic.

What's really annoying though is all this kind of behaviour is actively encouraged by pundits and commentators.

There is a lot of gamesmanship, but the stakes are so high that I can’t blame them for wanting to win at all costs. Also, you can’t trust the highlights, they are always going to show the most controversial moments that their pundits can waffle on about for as long as possible. There is some really beautiful football played these days, it’s not all diving and cheating.
 

ernie78

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Jun 13, 2012
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Forgive me for sounding a lot like Sean Dyche, but how shit is modern football? I don't get to watch a lot of football these days since I don't have sky or BT. instead I follow a lot of games on the radio, then I'll watch the highlights if I can be bothered. But watching MOTD2 last night really highlighted to me just how much "gamesmanship" goes on currently. (I know it's not a new thing)

Just in the spurs/city game. If I'm honest I think the sterling challenge was a free kick at worst. It's a 50/50 and Stirling actually made contact with the ball first. I'm not saying it didn't hurt Dele. But it was an honest attempt to win the ball.
Stirling definitely dived after the penalty though. He was on his way to the ground before he even got to Hugo. When he ran towards the ball, he has no intention of keeping the ball in play and scoring. Purely get another penalty.
I even thought the penalty was soft. Aguero was sheilding the ball so had a strong stance, Serge tried to get a leg around him. Hardly any contact and Aguero goes down feigning injury. Pathetic.

What's really annoying though is all this kind of behaviour is actively encouraged by pundits and commentators.
Mate go back and actually watch some of the games from the 70s, 80s and 90s and you’ll see some real shite. I caught an old match on BT Sports “classic” programme. Grim and negative. I’d forgotten how boring teams could be when you could still pass back to the keeper
 

spursfan77

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Aug 13, 2005
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Arsenal are terrible. 2 new defenders isnt going to help them

But you're forgetting the narrative that Arteta has been amazing and now they are playing like peak Guardiola Barcelona........but only winning one league game in that time. :cautious:
 
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