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Gbspurs

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I have always said I don't know why we don't always leave Son/Moura on the halfway line when defending corners. Look how much space Salah had for his goal, it works but no one does it.
 

JCRD

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I have always said I don't know why we don't always leave Son/Moura on the halfway line when defending corners. Look how much space Salah had for his goal, it works but no one does it.
Because we have no balls like they do. They are vicious they attack - so many times they turn the oppositions corner into an attack before you know its happened
 

Thewobbler

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This lot ain't as great as they think they are and are definately beatable but no-one seems to want to score against them.
So frustrating.
Running away with the league and they;re not that great. Laughable.
 

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Running away with the league and they;re not that great. Laughable.
Theyre a damn fantastic team - defensively solid, resolute, power and pace. The one thing id say they lack is someone with a bit of guile a bit of creativity but Firminho has that i think but perhaps int he middle of the park.

The thing is their mentality is unreal.
 

ohtottenham!

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Liverpool deserve absolutely everything they've achieved. If a club does all the right things to support the vision of a great coach, great things happen! Tottenham?
 
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Seafordian Spurs

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Theyre a damn fantastic team - defensively solid, resolute, power and pace. The one thing id say they lack is someone with a bit of guile a bit of creativity but Firminho has that i think but perhaps int he middle of the park.

The thing is their mentality is unreal.
To go THAT close last season, win the CL and then pick up in the league where they left off with no signings and without breaking sweat ....it's unreal. They are on another planet in terms of athleticism and collective strength.

Sickening.
 

SUIYHA

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What will probably be an unpopular opinion on this board:

If Levy had given Poch a blank chequebook in 2017 and brought in all of these rumoured targets from the last couple of years (Grealish, Dybala etc) - we'd have still finished at least 10 points behind Liverpool this season.

To which Levy might therefore say that the decisions to be "pragmatic" with resources has been justified, at least until we drop out of the Champions League. Not that I agree with that, we should be giving it a go at the very least and you never know what can happen in the cups. But it does really make me laugh when people say that we could be where Liverpool are if only we'd kicked on from 2017 and invested into the team. They've been jammy in a lot of games, but you can't argue with the stats. 91 points from a possible 93. Unbeaten in 39 league games and just one defeat in 61 league games. Not lost a league game at Anfield for almost three years, haven't even dropped a point there for a year. Seven successive clean sheets, and just 36 goals conceded since the start of LAST season (we conceded 35 in 2015/16 alone when Toby got into the PFA team of the season and we supposedly had one of the strongest defences in the league).

I just don't see how Pochettino and the 2017 set-up would have kicked on to that level - the bar has very much been raised. We may have won a trophy or two. We may have run them close if we got lucky. But I just don't see that we'd have become this good, not even City have and they've backed their manager with a LOT more than ENIC ever could have even if Levy had just said "let's fucking go for it".

I find them as annoying as any of you - but sometimes you've just gotta put your hands up and say fair enough.
 

Seafordian Spurs

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What will probably be an unpopular opinion on this board:

If Levy had given Poch a blank chequebook in 2017 and brought in all of these rumoured targets from the last couple of years (Grealish, Dybala etc) - we'd have still finished at least 10 points behind Liverpool this season.

To which Levy might therefore say that the decisions to be "pragmatic" with resources has been justified, at least until we drop out of the Champions League. Not that I agree with that, we should be giving it a go at the very least and you never know what can happen in the cups. But it does really make me laugh when people say that we could be where Liverpool are if only we'd kicked on from 2017 and invested into the team. They've been jammy in a lot of games, but you can't argue with the stats. 91 points from a possible 93. Unbeaten in 39 league games and just one defeat in 61 league games. Not lost a league game at Anfield for almost three years, haven't even dropped a point there for a year. Seven successive clean sheets, and just 36 goals conceded since the start of LAST season (we conceded 35 in 2015/16 alone when Toby got into the PFA team of the season and we supposedly had one of the strongest defences in the league).

I just don't see how Pochettino and the 2017 set-up would have kicked on to that level - the bar has very much been raised. We may have won a trophy or two. We may have run them close if we got lucky. But I just don't see that we'd have become this good, not even City have and they've backed their manager with a LOT more than ENIC ever could have even if Levy had just said "let's fucking go for it".

I find them as annoying as any of you - but sometimes you've just gotta put your hands up and say fair enough.
Only thing to hope for is an exhaustion and regression next season.

City played better football in their pomp a couple of seasons ago but this lot are frighteningly pragmatic.

And yes I agree. Between them and City the bar is very high. Not sure even Poch in his prime with us and a couple of proper quality additions would have bettered them.
 

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The only comfort I can take is that it’s been over for so long that majority of people will hardly be arsed when it comes to crowing them. I hate them with a passion but I just can’t understand how they are so dominant. Utd teams of past decades were amazing, aswell as Chelsea and City but they all dropped points here and there. These fuckers are just steam rollering everyone.
 

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What will probably be an unpopular opinion on this board:

If Levy had given Poch a blank chequebook in 2017 and brought in all of these rumoured targets from the last couple of years (Grealish, Dybala etc) - we'd have still finished at least 10 points behind Liverpool this season.

To which Levy might therefore say that the decisions to be "pragmatic" with resources has been justified, at least until we drop out of the Champions League. Not that I agree with that, we should be giving it a go at the very least and you never know what can happen in the cups. But it does really make me laugh when people say that we could be where Liverpool are if only we'd kicked on from 2017 and invested into the team. They've been jammy in a lot of games, but you can't argue with the stats. 91 points from a possible 93. Unbeaten in 39 league games and just one defeat in 61 league games. Not lost a league game at Anfield for almost three years, haven't even dropped a point there for a year. Seven successive clean sheets, and just 36 goals conceded since the start of LAST season (we conceded 35 in 2015/16 alone when Toby got into the PFA team of the season and we supposedly had one of the strongest defences in the league).

I just don't see how Pochettino and the 2017 set-up would have kicked on to that level - the bar has very much been raised. We may have won a trophy or two. We may have run them close if we got lucky. But I just don't see that we'd have become this good, not even City have and they've backed their manager with a LOT more than ENIC ever could have even if Levy had just said "let's fucking go for it".

I find them as annoying as any of you - but sometimes you've just gotta put your hands up and say fair enough.
Mate, we had no squad vision re everything. The aging and outgoings of key defenders and CBs, and much worse re our DMs, has just been a model of neglect!

The overplaying of key players, 'cause we haven't invested in a squad is plain to see.. The simple outcomes are Kane, Alli, Eriksen etc., ain't the players they used to be. For me, it's a physical toll that's caught up with them more than anything else. We've simply neglected investment in our squad.

City have different issues to us. They had the money to do anything they wished, but Pep messed up on the defensive side of their squad, and they got unlucky with injuries. Us? We have far more long-term, structural issues across our squad.
 
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Seafordian Spurs

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Mate, we had no squad vision re everything. The aging and outgoings of key defenders and CBs, and much worse re our DMs, has just been a model of neglect!

The overplaying of key players, 'cause we haven't invested in a squad is plain to see.. The simple outcomes are Kane, Alli, Eriksen etc., ain't the players they used to be. For me, it's a physical toll that's caught up with them more than anything else. We've simply neglected investment in our squad.

City have different issues to us. They had the money to do anything they wish, but Pep messed up on the defensive side of their squad, and they got unlucky with injuries. Us? We have far more long-term, structural issues across our squad.
Agree we have rinsed our key players and are now paying the price for it but, blimey, seems that Liverpool field the same team every week without fail.
 

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Running away with the league and they;re not that great. Laughable.
Thta's not what i said though, is it?
They're a fine team but the fact is that they've been there for the beating and teams haven't done the business. Today is a prime example. As was the Old Trafford fixture.
 

Gb160

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Liverpool have a game in hand.

😂😂😂😂😂😂
And it's against West Ham, so thats 3 points and +5 gd right there.

You just know that they'll do something really fucking cringey when they win it, give Klopp the keys to the city or build him a throne or some such shit.
The worst thing about them is he's not going anywhere soon either.
I might have to start following another sport altogether until he fucks off.
 
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spursfan77

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I’ve too many mates that are Liverpool “fans” to be happy about them winning the league. Especially how we’ve dominated them over the last decade and how much they’ve hated it. It’s going to be a fucking pain.
 

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Liverpool should give us all hope. It did not take much at all in terms of time or money for them to go from where we are now to being clearly the best team in the world by some distance and steamrolling the league. It's a funny old game and who knows where we'll be 2-3 years down the line.
 

Seafordian Spurs

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Liverpool should give us all hope. It did not take much at all in terms of time or money for them to go from where we are now to being clearly the best team in the world by some distance and steamrolling the league. It's a funny old game and who knows where we'll be 2-3 years down the line.
They finished 8th in their first season under Klopp and went from there. No doubt it has been their manager that has been instrumental in getting them to belive (to even greater levels of their usual delusion).

Here's hoping Jose can do something similar.
 
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