Pochettino: My Tottenham legacy more important than winning trophies

rupsmith

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I actually posted this on the other thread so apologies to whoever is reading it again, but perhaps more appropriate here.

I personally think that the Poch era will be remembered as one of the most critical periods in the club's history as we transitioned and moved to a different level - in terms of our world class new stadium that involved considerable investment but at the same time consistently qualifying for the top 4 with relatively limited funds. Yes we did not win a trophy which has I suppose is the objective of any team, which leaves everyone with positive memories and emotional highs. But I would still consider his term as very "successful" indeed. Will always be grateful for what he has done.

Having said that I also fully understand Jose's appointment. A proven manager and one of the most successful winners in club football history. If I was Daniel Levy I would go down a similar path. Provide funds to a manger who has journeyed down a path of success in the past - several times. As opposed to going down a loyalty based - perhaps even somewhat emotional - approach of backing Poch to win trophies and achieve success, even though he has never done it before. If we were playing good football and winning matches then it would have been even tougher but the fact that we had tapered off as a team for nearly an year perhaps almost forced his hand.

So I guess I would say - Thank you very much Mauricio Pochettino. We will always be grateful for what you have done and achieved for us - and you will always be remembered and welcomed. But it was probably the right time to conclude the project and for the baton to be passed on to the likes of Jose Mourinho.
 
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What kind of personality change would that be? Spending half a year sulking over a loss? Not winning away for a year? On track to less points in the league than when Pochettino took over?

I gues no need for that discussion all over again, and I have no problem seeing that others have another take on it, but nonsense? That is just nonsense and uncalled for.
 

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Fair play to Poch, you wont win anything with a midfield that cannot dribble (Eriksen) , and shit fullbacks who cant cross, has zero attacking nuous.

If Poch has a healthy and fit Wanyama and discovered someone like Lo Celso earlier, things would have been so much different.

Credit to Poch, he was a trainwreck in his last season with us, but thats because he has squeeze every drop of blood, sweat and tears from this squad of Michael Browns, Simon Davies and Danny Murphies (no disrespect here)
 

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His legacy is regular top 4 finishers and a CL final, that helped elevate the profile of the club. Assuming he goes to Utd he will have the transfer budget to prove if he is capable of winning trophies. I would not put it past him, but there will be no hiding place if he fails.
 

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Legacy. Romantic words do not hurt anyone, but 50 years from now we will still talk about Bill, Greaves, Hoddle, King etc, but not Pochettino.

I will miss the early Pochettino for years, but objectively speaking there will be no more "legacy" left by Pochettino than a bunch of highly loved players and coaches over the years. Certainly nothing close to the names mentioned (and many more before Pochettino).
Why King will be remembered. One lC in 15 years or so?
 

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Why King will be remembered. One lC in 15 years or so?
Because he could very well be the best defender to have ever played for the club?

I can't comment on the 50s and 60s, but no-one since are close to King among defenders that have played for us. And my guess he holds up against those that player in the 50s and 60s as well.
 

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His legacy is regular top 4 finishers and a CL final, that helped elevate the profile of the club. Assuming he goes to Utd he will have the transfer budget to prove if he is capable of winning trophies. I would not put it past him, but there will be no hiding place if he fails.
He is not that much more regular than the managers before him though. Obviously we lost out on CL one year because of Chelsea, but if we assume Pochettino would not have made it to the CL this year if he had continued then he isn't much better than our other recent managers. And even if he didn't spend that much before this summer one of Redknapp's biggest buys were the likes of Palacios.

Not arguing Pochettino didn't do better than Jol, Redknapp and AVB - I think he did, but those are hardly 3 brilliant managers to be benchmarked against. If he is nearly as good as G. Neville thinks he is than he should do a lot better than our other recent managers.
 

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I think it's fair to say he'll leave a legacy but only to Spurs fans, he won't leave a legacy in wider football terms as a Ferguson, Wenger, or a Pep/Klopp will.

For me we had:
Jol - 5th and back in Europe
Redknapp - 4th and in the CL
Poch - 2nd and runners up in CL

Each man was right for where we were as a club at the time.
The next step is someone who has, and will win trophies now the club has progressed to the next level. It's why I was 100% behind getting in Mourinho.
Even if it's 'just' an FA cup or Europa cup we need to start winning trophies as that's the only difference between us and our peers now.
Mourinho's been a proven winner in the past and he has desire and arrogance to do it again.
 

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Because he could very well be the best defender to have ever played for the club?

I can't comment on the 50s and 60s, but no-one since are close to King among defenders that have played for us. And my guess he holds up against those that player in the 50s and 60s as well.
but according to your argument how he can be remembered in 50 years time as he has won nothing?
 

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That is my argument? When did I make that?
You had the same view regarding Poch legacy here at tottenham. Re king, I don't think that the coming generation will know or remember him much.
 

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You had the same view regarding Poch legacy here at tottenham. Re king, I don't think that the coming generation will know or remember him much.
I did? I honestly can't remember saying anything about that. I am not one of those that believes trophies are the only measurement for development (in the end of course this sport is about winning things). I believe Pochettino did better than Ramos so...

Looking forward to seeing the quote were I said anything of the things you claim I have said.

Time will tell with King. One of the few defenders ever to have YouTube-videos worth watching. I am willing to put quite a lot of money on King being more likely to be remembered than Pochettino some years down the line.
 
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