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Should Poch stay or go?

  • Stay

    Votes: 657 55.3%
  • Go

    Votes: 532 44.7%

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fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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Levy will come to a mutual agreement with Pochettino and assuming he doesn't appoint Mourinho, will go for Chris Hughton as caretaker manager until the end of the season.

That's a total stab in the dark but we know how much Le Pétomane loves a caretaker.

Hughton is currently 40/1.

This post was sponsored by Skybet :cautious:
Why get hughton when you can get this man in ;)
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fishhhandaricecake

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Nov 15, 2018
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Tell Leicester they didn’t really win the league because they only got 81 points, because the following season we got 86 and didn’t win it.
Ridiculous, but somewhat expected statement
That Leicester season was a bit of an anolomy though, league was so so poor that year.
 

Ronwol196061

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Apr 9, 2018
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This is the most baffling part, it’s our defence which is shocking not our attack (ability wise)
It's not baffling
Poch had put everything into the defence but maybe he felt he can make any defensive player into a top player.
Now we need a few top noth defence players especially DM and RB
 

coys200

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May 22, 2017
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Levy will come to a mutual agreement with Pochettino and assuming he doesn't appoint Mourinho, will go for Chris Hughton as caretaker manager until the end of the season.

That's a total stab in the dark but we know how much Le Pétomane loves a caretaker.

Hughton is currently 40/1.

This post was sponsored by Skybet :cautious:

Hughton caretaker is actually a great bet. He’d definitely be the obvious caretaker option.
 

@WHL

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Jun 13, 2016
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I think some have forgotten the years before Poch
- We had 10 managers in 13 years.
- Only qualified twice for the CL by ending 4th
- Always finished below Arsenal
- Never challenged the league
- We had a relegation fight

Since Poch is our manager
- We challenged the title
- Reached the CL final
- We have qualified to the CL in 3 of his 4 seasons
- Out status in world football has grown exponentially

I'm sure I'm missing several pros and cons, but the progress is unquestionnable.
Yes, we haven't won any title, but you can't deny the excitement of almost winning the league or the CL is much more than wining the League Cup.
I'm aware we have not been playing well for over a year, and right now we are terrible. But in that time we still got to the CL final, and are still in a good position in the current CL.

Don't forget grass isn't always greener. Changing the manager could improve us, but it could also take us in the opposite direction and return us to the state we had before him.
Sorry know I’m late and might already have these reply’s.
Challenged for the title? Did I miss something? We choked every chance we got cos of no plan b or his subs were useless.
Scum were on a massive decline, don’t think it’s cos we got so much better, if they invested well then nothing would have changed.
With the players we had who is saying another manager wouldn’t have done even better.
look at pochs Purchases:Lamela ( I love the bloke) most want him gone, Sanchez if you don’t think he is a liability then your having a laugh, aurie a joke of a player, moura good buy but is a part time player, one good match in10 and everyone is screaming for him to play.
yes we ( with loads of luck) got to the CL final, but for what??to be embarrassed, not turn up? I would rather had city win so them scouse mugs lost. Like the England rugby team play an amazing game against great teams then when it matters don’t bother showing up.
yes we got to the CL final but be honest our league form fell we were lucky other teams kept dropping easy points and for what? Disappointment.If we had finished 5th but got to the final would you still have been so happy? Cos that could have easily happened.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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Sorry know I’m late and might already have these reply’s.
Challenged for the title? Did I miss something? We choked every chance we got cos of no plan b or his subs were useless.
Scum were on a massive decline, don’t think it’s cos we got so much better, if they invested well then nothing would have changed.
With the players we had who is saying another manager wouldn’t have done even better.
look at pochs Purchases:Lamela ( I love the bloke) most want him gone, Sanchez if you don’t think he is a liability then your having a laugh, aurie a joke of a player, moura good buy but is a part time player, one good match in10 and everyone is screaming for him to play.
yes we ( with loads of luck) got to the CL final, but for what??to be embarrassed, not turn up? I would rather had city win so them scouse mugs lost. Like the England rugby team play an amazing game against great teams then when it matters don’t bother showing up.
yes we got to the CL final but be honest our league form fell we were lucky other teams kept dropping easy points and for what? Disappointment.If we had finished 5th but got to the final would you still have been so happy? Cos that could have easily happened.

So much wrong in this post lol

Full of caveats and if statements, we were lucky blah blah. what else...of yeah we benefited because the other teams were crap, some certified classics in there, it's okay you can give praise to the manager's tenure here and acknowledge that his time is up at the same time, that is okay you know.
 

@WHL

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Jun 13, 2016
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So much wrong in this post lol

Full of caveats and if statements, we were lucky blah blah. what else...of yeah we benefited because the other teams were crap, some certified classics in there, it's okay you can give praise to the manager's tenure here and acknowledge that his time is up at the same time, that is okay you know.
so we really challenged for the title?? How many points were in it? 1 or 2?
So you think our records since January is acceptable? Yea if and buts, that’s how it goes like I said another manager like Conte and we could have won the league.
If you don’t understand football is swings and roundabouts, that most Big teams have periods of being great then being dog shit then that’s you, I’m more concerned with this is our time again and we are going to miss it cos idiots like you are sentimental about a manager (who had a decent team before he even arrived) has run his course.
So yea moan and have your opinion but this is mine so fuck off
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
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Levy will come to a mutual agreement with Pochettino and assuming he doesn't appoint Mourinho, will go for Chris Hughton as caretaker manager until the end of the season.

That's a total stab in the dark but we know how much Le Pétomane loves a caretaker.

Hughton is currently 40/1.

This post was sponsored by Skybet :cautious:
He will in fact appoint Mourinho, beacuse Chris Hughton is a socialist and probably shouldn't be in charge of such a capitalist venture as selling Kane abroad will be.
 

Everlasting Seconds

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Jan 9, 2014
14,914
26,616
I think some have forgotten the years before Poch
- We had 10 managers in 13 years.
- Only qualified twice for the CL by ending 4th
- Always finished below Arsenal
- Never challenged the league
- We had a relegation fight

Since Poch is our manager
- We challenged the title
- Reached the CL final
- We have qualified to the CL in 3 of his 4 seasons
- Out status in world football has grown exponentially

I'm sure I'm missing several pros and cons, but the progress is unquestionnable.
Yes, we haven't won any title, but you can't deny the excitement of almost winning the league or the CL is much more than wining the League Cup.
I'm aware we have not been playing well for over a year, and right now we are terrible. But in that time we still got to the CL final, and are still in a good position in the current CL.

Don't forget grass isn't always greener. Changing the manager could improve us, but it could also take us in the opposite direction and return us to the state we had before him.
Oh yes, the good old grass isn't greener. Well I say you are wrong. It IS greener. Have you seen the home turf our lads play on these days? It's much greener than in the 90s, ffs.
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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so we really challenged for the title?? How many points were in it? 1 or 2?

Yes we were involved in a title challenge which is the very definition of challenging for the title, despite how many points we eventually finished behind the eventual winners that doesn't change the point.

So you think our records since January is acceptable? Yea if and buts, that’s how it goes like I said another manager like Conte and we could have won the league.

Sigh...Surprise surprise a straw man, didn't see that coming...where did I say our record since Jan was acceptable, yes I'm sure another manager could have pushed us over the line but how many managers could have taken us from where we were as a club to where we are now as a club?

If you don’t understand football is swings and roundabouts, that most Big teams have periods of being great then being dog shit then that’s you,

You're suggesting that we are only up there because the other teams had failed, so what was our excuse when there was no established top 6, there was no Sugar Daddy Chelsea or Man City when we didn't take advantage and we still finished mid table?

I’m more concerned with this is our time again and we are going to miss it cos idiots like you are sentimental about a manager (who had a decent team before he even arrived) has run his course.

So yea moan and have your opinion but this is mine so fuck off

Now that's just uncalled for isn't it, come on play nice fella :D
 

LeParisien

Wrong about everything
Mar 5, 2018
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It’s Eastlondonyid mate he seems to get a kick out of dohing for no reason, he probably has very small feet.

As to the post I agreed with to be fair it’s really not straight forward and as I’ve posted previously I don’t think there is any use in blaming poch or Levy but I think both of them have areas they can improve on.

poch: team selections and in game tactics can be better
Levy: player recruitment set-up and transfer execution could be better

what is your view on it all mate?
Levy isn’t perfect. From a fans perspective he is frustratingly conservative in his approach to growth and I think that invites some of the criticism he gets.

Poch has made some very bad decisions over the past year and needs to get his act together. I’d like to give him a chance but fans need to see some sort of vision that extends beyond the end of the season. We need to see the young players and new players play regularly and now they’re all fit there’s no excuse. A couple of signings which suggest brighter days ahead wouldn’t go amiss too.. in January.

I think Levy will spend what it takes.
 

Trotter

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Jan 30, 2009
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Not entirely true mate, I get your perspective but points are still a strong measure. For example the season before last Man City got 100points, compare that to some of Fergies who in a less competitive premier league got only say 80 points to win a league, which team is better? Easily peps man.city and the huge points difference reflects that as it shows they were more dominant and consistent, just in the same way goals scored and conceded are also important stats.

I would argue totally the opposite.
At the moment we are in a totally uncompetitive Premier League, where the top 2 sides were on a different planet to the rest of the teams. Premier League was basically where Spain was when it was only Barca and Real and then 20 point gap to the rest.
Whereas when the title is won with a lot less points, the league was a lot tighter, points gaps were a lot less, and a lot more competitive where realistically any team could cause an upset, especially at home.
That is not to say the Man City and Liverpool teams are not better than some of Ferguson’s United ones for example, that is open for debate, just that the competition was a lot tighter throughout, the points gained are not a realistic comparison, as the opposition is different.
Finishing 2nd on 75 points in a League is better than finishing say 4th on 85 points, and actually could be a better achievement than finishing 2nd on 85 points, expected points gained depends totally on the general quality of the opposition across the whole league, which can change drastically from season to season, let alone over 10 years.
 
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Spurs_Bear

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Jan 7, 2009
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Sorry know I’m late and might already have these reply’s.
Challenged for the title? Did I miss something? We choked every chance we got cos of no plan b or his subs were useless.
Scum were on a massive decline, don’t think it’s cos we got so much better, if they invested well then nothing would have changed.
With the players we had who is saying another manager wouldn’t have done even better.
look at pochs Purchases:Lamela ( I love the bloke) most want him gone, Sanchez if you don’t think he is a liability then your having a laugh, aurie a joke of a player, moura good buy but is a part time player, one good match in10 and everyone is screaming for him to play.
yes we ( with loads of luck) got to the CL final, but for what??to be embarrassed, not turn up? I would rather had city win so them scouse mugs lost. Like the England rugby team play an amazing game against great teams then when it matters don’t bother showing up.
yes we got to the CL final but be honest our league form fell we were lucky other teams kept dropping easy points and for what? Disappointment.If we had finished 5th but got to the final would you still have been so happy? Cos that could have easily happened.

“Look at Poch’s purchases. Lamela...”

WHERE ARE YOU BEADLE?? COME OUT FOR FUCK SAKE
 

Zoltar60

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Sep 26, 2005
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A couple of signings which suggest brighter days ahead wouldn’t go amiss too.. in January.

I think Levy will spend what it takes.

He needs to, everyone is pointing the finger at poch, but the contract situation of certain players who are causing issues within the squad are solely Levy's fault. Not saying poch hasn't made mistakes, but he did warn the squad needed a massive overhaul.
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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He needs to, everyone is pointing the finger at poch, but the contract situation of certain players who are causing issues within the squad are solely Levy's fault. Not saying poch hasn't made mistakes, but he did warn the squad needed a massive overhaul.
I agree but what if Poch saying these things in public made some players believe their time at the club was done and have slowly lost motivation?

The club from top to bottom have majorly taken their eye off the ball.

I will say though that in typical ENIC fashion the club have done what they always fail to do..... Not strike when the iron is hot!
 

@WHL

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Jun 13, 2016
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Yes we were involved in a title challenge which is the very definition of challenging for the title, despite how many points we eventually finished behind the eventual winners that doesn't change the point.

We’re we really, the time we should hve been and finished fucking 3rd behind the scum.

Sigh...Surprise surprise a straw man, didn't see that coming...where did I say our record since Jan was acceptable, yes I'm sure another manager could have pushed us over the line but how many managers could have taken us from where we were as a club to where we are now as a club?

Can’t wait to look back and say oh we won fuck all but finished 3rd when we were challenging for the title.

You're suggesting that we are only up there because the other teams had failed, so what was our excuse when there was no established top 6, there was no Sugar Daddy Chelsea or Man City when we didn't take advantage and we still finished mid table?

They weren’t even big teams then, the sugar daddies have pushed them to that.

Now that's just uncalled for isn't it, come on play nice fella :D
Stop being a dick and I’m sure we can
 
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