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Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele

Johnny J

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Loads of lazy rhetoric fitting going on in here, SSN style.

At no point last night did he look like he couldn’t hack another half hour playing at the same intensity, and he was playing at an acceptable intensity. He might not be Sissoko but if last night was the only snapshot we’d ever seen of him, then nobody would be saying he looked unfit or breathless. I accept that prior experience of him has to be taken into account, but this is bordering on witch-hunt levels of body shaming usually reserved for the Sun going after Z list celebs.
Mourinho clearly would be playing him for longer if he was able to handle it. He can't.
 

dtxspurs

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Mourinho clearly would be playing him for longer if he was able to handle it. He can't.
Yeah, I thought there were moments where he looked a little leggy. Its an issue of him not working off the ball. He doesn't work hard to get back, he doesn't even work very hard to get on the ball but he comes to life when he gets on the ball. So he may look fine when he has the ball and is able to run and pass but off the ball he just kind of walks around.
 

Partizan

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"That's what he is doing – we are taking care of him at every level," said Mourinho. "We are doing a global programme with him to try to take care of him.

Nope not buying that. I prefer to think Mourinho clearly has a grudge and is actively sabotaging his career
 

Hoddlegenius

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Yeah, I thought there were moments where he looked a little leggy. Its an issue of him not working off the ball. He doesn't work hard to get back, he doesn't even work very hard to get on the ball but he comes to life when he gets on the ball. So he may look fine when he has the ball and is able to run and pass but off the ball he just kind of walks around.
I actually thought he looked like he was trying to find little spaces and was asking for the ball when he didn't have it but I must admit, it looked like a big effort for him! His potential is huge but I agree that he needs to work a lot harder off the ball as everyone seems to be implying.
 

southlondonyiddo

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Loads of lazy rhetoric fitting going on in here, SSN style.

At no point last night did he look like he couldn’t hack another half hour playing at the same intensity, and he was playing at an acceptable intensity. He might not be Sissoko but if last night was the only snapshot we’d ever seen of him, then nobody would be saying he looked unfit or breathless. I accept that prior experience of him has to be taken into account, but this is bordering on witch-hunt levels of body shaming usually reserved for the Sun going after Z list celebs.

Cannot agree

We all want what’s best for Tottenham and most of us can see what a fantastic footballer Ndombele is

The problem is that he is not in shape. He is definitely carrying too many extra pounds and we are all extremely frustrated because we really really need him but we can see that he is just not up to it at the moment

Last night he came on for 30 mins. Did 2 or 3 amazing turns, a couple of mini dribbles and played 2 or 3 lovely little balls

We need more. He is capable of so much more. He should be showing for the ball whenever possible. Taking it off the back 4 whenever possible

This did not happen. He did not go looking for the ball when we were in possession nor did he do nearly enough when we didn’t have the ball

There were times when he was walking. I watched him closely the entire time

It’s not lazy rhetoric. As someone else said if he was able to last longer than 30mins then there is absolutely no doubt that Jose would want to give him more minutes

Lamelas tempo, energy was infectious when he came on at the same time. It gave the whole team a lift and the crowd

I’d have loved to have seen just a bit of that from Tanguy
 

InOffMeLeftShin

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Cannot agree

We all want what’s best for Tottenham and most of us can see what a fantastic footballer Ndombele is

The problem is that he is not in shape. He is definitely carrying too many extra pounds and we are all extremely frustrated because we really really need him but we can see that he is just not up to it at the moment

Last night he came on for 30 mins. Did 2 or 3 amazing turns, a couple of mini dribbles and played 2 or 3 lovely little balls

We need more. He is capable of so much more. He should be showing for the ball whenever possible. Taking it off the back 4 whenever possible

This did not happen. He did not go looking for the ball when we were in possession nor did he do nearly enough when we didn’t have the ball

There were times when he was walking. I watched him closely the entire time

It’s not lazy rhetoric. As someone else said if he was able to last longer than 30mins then there is absolutely no doubt that Jose would want to give him more minutes

Lamelas tempo, energy was infectious when he came on at the same time. It gave the whole team a lift and the crowd

I’d have loved to have seen just a bit of that from Tanguy

He came on and effectively played in dele’s role and we were looking to try and unlock the back line. I don’t think he should be coming to get it from the defenders, Winks and Lo Celso have far more defensive awareness than Ndombele has and are far more suited for that. He should however be showing to get the ball from Winks and Lo Celso more often.

There is no doubt he can make something happen, whether it’s a dribble, pass or even scoring the odd goal. We just need to figure out how to fit him in. If we are going to bypass the midfield he is going to look completely lost.
 

fedupyid

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He made us look a lot better last night. I do not Understand the hate it is only because the great pretender who is our manager criticised him when we played Brighton that is why you lot think what you do about him.
 

fedupyid

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Pochettino is a superior manager to Mourinho
. He is superior Mourinho tactics are park everyone behind the ball then play a long ball to the forward. These are the exact same tactics Dyche, Pulis and Allardyce play I have not seen anything while he is Spurs or Utd manager that shows any difference. If he did not have the trophys and a little bit of charisma he would be lucky to be a premier league manager
 

pedrodelawasp

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NDombele and Lo Celso would have saved Pochettino who is a superior manager his job if Levy had the balls for more of a change than what happened in the summer

Ndombele and Lo Celso, two players signed under Pochettino, would have saved Pochettino his job if only Pochettino had been allowed to sign Ndombele and Lo Celso, two players that Pochettino actually was allowed sign?

Unless you mean more than those two needed to be signed, in which case it wouldn’t be correct to say those two saved Pochettino his job.
 

philll

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. He is superior Mourinho tactics are park everyone behind the ball then play a long ball to the forward. These are the exact same tactics Dyche, Pulis and Allardyce play I have not seen anything while he is Spurs or Utd manager that shows any difference. If he did not have the trophys and a little bit of charisma he would be lucky to be a premier league manager
You must not have watched most of our games in the last 6-12 months that Pochettino was in charge...
 
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