AllReb
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Player Watch - Tanguy Ndombele
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AllReb
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So Levy backed his manager then?
coy-spurs1882
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yes, TN, GLC, RS and JC were all our targets in last window
Strikeb4ck
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Errr...just look at his goals/assists per 90?
Montalbano
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We must give him one more season to prove himself. He’s by far the most creative player in the squad.
Ron Burgundy
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All other things being equal I'd agree, but he has to be up for giving it a proper go.
It's all up to him:
- If he wants to work hard, he'll be a massive asset
- If he doesn't, we should cash in before he depreciates further. We can't afford that expensive a passenger in the squad
Led Revolver
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Other than £200,000 a week, I’m saying nothing...
Jose’s draws & defeats - Ndombele’s contributions
Man United. On the bench, came on after 70 minutes - lost
Bayern Munich. Injured - lost
Chelsea. On the bench, came on after 74 minutes - lost
Norwich. Completed the game - drew
Southampton. Started, subbed after 25minutes due to injury - lost
Middlesbrough. Injured - drew
Liverpool. Injured - lost
Watford. Injured - drew
Southampton. On the bench, didn’t play - drew
Leipzig. On the bench, came on after 64 minutes - lost
Chelsea. Started, taken off after 63 minutes - lost
Norwich. On the bench, brought on after 81 minutes - drew, lost on penalties
Burnley. Started, taken off after 45 minutes - drew
Leipzig. On the bench, didn’t play - lost
Man United. On the bench, didn’t play - drew
Sheffield United. On the bench, brought on after 71 minutes - lost
Bournemouth. On the bench, came on after 45 minutes - drew
Crystal Palace. Injured - drew
Unavailable - 5 of 18
Completed 90 minutes - 1 of 13
Starts - 4 of 13
Substituted off - 3 of 4
Not used at all when available - 3 of 13
Wins
Games won with Ndombele in the squad - 9 of 16
Games won without Ndombele in the squad - 7 of 16
Starts - 2 of 9
Substituted off - 2 of 2
Substituted on - 1
Unused subs - 5 of 9
Jose’s draws & defeats - Ndombele’s contributions
Man United. On the bench, came on after 70 minutes - lost
Bayern Munich. Injured - lost
Chelsea. On the bench, came on after 74 minutes - lost
Norwich. Completed the game - drew
Southampton. Started, subbed after 25minutes due to injury - lost
Middlesbrough. Injured - drew
Liverpool. Injured - lost
Watford. Injured - drew
Southampton. On the bench, didn’t play - drew
Leipzig. On the bench, came on after 64 minutes - lost
Chelsea. Started, taken off after 63 minutes - lost
Norwich. On the bench, brought on after 81 minutes - drew, lost on penalties
Burnley. Started, taken off after 45 minutes - drew
Leipzig. On the bench, didn’t play - lost
Man United. On the bench, didn’t play - drew
Sheffield United. On the bench, brought on after 71 minutes - lost
Bournemouth. On the bench, came on after 45 minutes - drew
Crystal Palace. Injured - drew
Unavailable - 5 of 18
Completed 90 minutes - 1 of 13
Starts - 4 of 13
Substituted off - 3 of 4
Not used at all when available - 3 of 13
Wins
Games won with Ndombele in the squad - 9 of 16
Games won without Ndombele in the squad - 7 of 16
Starts - 2 of 9
Substituted off - 2 of 2
Substituted on - 1
Unused subs - 5 of 9
Spurrific
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Couldn't agree more with the bold bit.
SandroClegane
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That's a lot of work for a bunch of stats that don't really mean anything.
Ron Burgundy
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I'm sure there's a good point in there somewhere, but it's not really leaping off the page. Am I missing something?
Led Revolver
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Well, if you look closely, the title makes ‘the point‘ rather obvious... ‘contributions‘. This includes being available to the manager, how reliable a player can be, if a manager trusts the player to perform for 90 minutes/fitness, if the manager trusts the player at all, if they have a positive/negative effect on the whole squad when they are involved/not involved in a game.. If you look even closer, you may see that these ‘contributions’ are rather thin on the ground.
Further still, look at the games individually or in small clusters and you can see where Jose gave him the opportunities to prove himself - before he got injured again! If you need any more help please just ask
Mourinho also mentioned in a press conference that the reason he met up with Ndombele was to help him access the Zoom training sessions (?) Ndombele’s a young man with young friends, and he’s a professional that needs to train. Are you telling me Jose was the only person who could provide him with suitable tech support!? Be interested to know if Tanguy thought he’d just be getting a bit of relaxation time during lockdown.
Further still, look at the games individually or in small clusters and you can see where Jose gave him the opportunities to prove himself - before he got injured again! If you need any more help please just ask
Mourinho also mentioned in a press conference that the reason he met up with Ndombele was to help him access the Zoom training sessions (?) Ndombele’s a young man with young friends, and he’s a professional that needs to train. Are you telling me Jose was the only person who could provide him with suitable tech support!? Be interested to know if Tanguy thought he’d just be getting a bit of relaxation time during lockdown.
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Tucker
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I keep seeing people saying this, but can’t for the life of me remember a single stand out performance from him in a Spurs shirt. Genuine question, why do you think he’s so great?
Talent is nothing if you don’t put the effort in, and we have seen time and again that he simply can’t or won’t put a shift in.
I’m more than happy to give him time to prove me wrong, but I also won’t be mad if the club decide to cash in their chips on this guy.
emiley heskey
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Ndombele can dribble and that's why people say he is talented
BuckeyeSpurs11
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If the manager is not going to play him then he should be sold and the money reinvested in players that he will play. Simple as that. Ndombele when he feels like it is a top, top class player but the inconsistent effort just isnt enough and he isnt a top player from the bench...
fishhhandaricecake
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This is all great and everything but what is the meaning of life?
Spurrific
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He's also easily the best passer (maybe Kane aside) at the club, nobody else comes close to having the vision and execution of his pass to set Son up against City.
People who can't see his talent are either being deliberately blind to it, or iffy judges of footballer.
Rosco1984
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Everyone can see his talent but unless every single through ball results in a goal or every dribble is successful a midfielder has to either chase back or if he's given license to stay forward then press! when he doesn't have the ball he is completely uninterested. If it was just down to talent Adel Taarabt would have been our greatest ever player Led Revolvers post shows we didn't win a single game he has started second half of the season and in fact most of them were our worst performances.
Why are people defending someone who gets paid a fortune to wear a shirt most of us would pay to wear and cant even give a fuck to try?
Spurrific
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Because we're Spurs "supporters", not "players". Supporting a player, especially one who the club has invested heavily in, when things aren't exactly going their way shouldn't be an alien concept. My company pays me to do whatever it is I'm supposed to do, doesn't change the fact I sit on here all day trying to goad @BringBack_leGin .
I was responding directly to people diminishing his actual talent, fwiw. His application hasn't been good enough, which is redundant to say and has been covered ad nauseam, but his talent is absolutely undeniable.
Rosco1984
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I think Sissoko is awful but I will support him as he gives100% in every game. I'm not willing to waste my time having a man crush on a player who's attitude is so bad he cant even be bothered to try and impress in his first year in the premier league just because he can do a pretty step over. There is no coincidence the very top players in the world regardless of their talent work their ass off week in week out. Talent without application is worthless and if he cant be bothered to impress in his first year why on earth would he change that second season.
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You must have hated Berbatov.
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