Player Watch: Tanguy Ndombele

Roberts84

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When our other left wing options were Jamie O'Hara and Dos Santos it is hardly such a big decision.

Yes he couldn't play left wing but it was a different team, with a different style. Ndombele could play, but at the moment I just don't see why you would play him ahead of options. Ok, some people have issues with Dele but he has actually scored 8 goals and assisted 4 this season and is a way more proven, reliable and, yes, more disciplined. Meanwhile, Lamela has looked like a man on a mission this season and is clearly pushing Dele quite hard for that starting position. Ndombele has never played in the hole and I am not sure how well he would do there.

Ndombele is still a useful option to have, and I am sure we would have seen him come on as a CM were we having to chase a game. He is genuinely a game changing player. But, we are actually looking very solid and compact right now, and these last two games we actually have looked like a Jose team. Ndombele, hasn't shown himself to be that player yet.

But he shouldn't stress, quality and dedication wins out in the end. Lamela didn't get a look in in his first season. Sissoko looked like a massive waste of money in his first two. Dembele, what a player, was actually only used as an impact sub in his first season with Pochettino before learning what Poch wanted out of him.

More. Eriksen barely played in the first 4 months of his time at spurs before really pushing on around christmas. Lloris also had to wait to get into the team. Danny Rose had to fight from being considered a player who could never make it as a top quality left back and became the best in the league. Trippier had to play second fiddle for two seasons before establishing himself towards the end of the first. Gareth Bale was a curse and took years to really break through, Assou Ekotto was a liability before he adapted to the league so well he became a fan favorite. Son had a difficult first season were he came in and out of the side and Lamela, Dele and Eriksen were first choice.

That's the thing, he is a young player who needs to adapt to his managers needs, as well as those of the league. If he can takes his time he could easily become another Son, Dembele or Sissoko. But you become that by being patient and working on your game. If he wants to leave to get more games, fair enough, we should explain the situation and tell him to stay put, rumours are Son was pretty keen on going after his first season. If he doesn't accept that and still pushes for an exit. Good riddance, it's as simple of that, because he wouldn't have the mentality required for us moving forward. It would be understandable if he was 27 and at the peak of his career, but he is 23. We didn't sign him for this season. We signed him for the next 5.
Excellent post. It’s easy to forget that of Dembele was strongly linked with a move to Sunderland in Poch’s first season and was very much an enigma and no one knew where best to play him. I remember beating Newcastle away, I think 4-0 and he played attacking right. It’s largely down to Ndombele as to how his career goes at spurs. Show patience and work hard and he’ll be ok, if not good luck somewhere else
 
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brasil_spur

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Since when was a spurs tracksuit and a black beanie much of a statement anyway?
Exactly, I've literally sat in the main boardroom as an external business partner of THFC at Lilywhite House with "corporate" THFC staff and they were all wearing trackies and t-shirts.

In fact last time I saw DL at LH he was wearing jeans and a polo shirt.
 
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Exactly, I've literally sat in the main boardroom as an external business partner of THFC at Lilywhite House with "corporate" THFC staff and they were all wearing trackies and t-shirts.

In fact last time I saw DL at LH he was wearing jeans and a polo shirt.
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nferno

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Exactly, I've literally sat in the main boardroom as an external business partner of THFC at Lilywhite House with "corporate" THFC staff and they were all wearing trackies and t-shirts.

In fact last time I saw DL at LH he was wearing jeans and a polo shirt.
Reminds me of this classic from when he went to Croatia to sign modders

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fridgemagnet

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How is Ally making assumption 1) based on a 5 minute Twitter clip?

There's some very odd soundbites that come out of football.London they often seem to contradict themselves every second or third article about the same subject. So if he's a chosen mouth piece for the club to feed info as I've seen suggested then it explains a lot as Spurs are probably one of the worst clubs for being able to control a narrative/getting ahead of a story. Somewhere else they need to massively improve IMHO communications and press/ragtops.

I don't know his/that sites full background though so I may be being overly harsh.
 

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How is Ally making assumption 1) based on a 5 minute Twitter clip?

There's some very odd soundbites that come out of football.London they often seem to contradict themselves every second or third article about the same subject. So if he's a chosen mouth piece for the club to feed info as I've seen suggested then it explains a lot as Spurs are probably one of the worst clubs for being able to control a narrative/getting ahead of a story. Somewhere else they need to massively improve IMHO communications and press/ragtops.

I don't know his/that sites full background though so I may be being overly harsh.
Did you not see this part?

 
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How is Ally making assumption 1) based on a 5 minute Twitter clip?

There's some very odd soundbites that come out of football.London they often seem to contradict themselves every second or third article about the same subject. So if he's a chosen mouth piece for the club to feed info as I've seen suggested then it explains a lot as Spurs are probably one of the worst clubs for being able to control a narrative/getting ahead of a story. Somewhere else they need to massively improve IMHO communications and press/ragtops.

I don't know his/that sites full background though so I may be being overly harsh.
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thebenjamin

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A player doesn’t have to play like Dele to play in Dele’s position, though. We’d certainly lose work rate and off the ball movement if Ndombele took that ‘position’ but might gain other aspects. Won’t know if we don’t try.
Once of the central requirements of the 10 position in modern football is to work your bollocks off closing down the opposition's midfield playmaker.

It's no longer swanning about without a care in the world until someone else gets you the ball like the 1980s. In fact the amount of mobility and work rate required in terms of sprints to close down, get into the box, run beyond Kane etc, are if anything less suited to Ndombele than sitting in cm in front of the defense.

I get a bit confused when people suggest playing Ndombele at 10 - to do so would considerably exacerbate his weaknesses.
 

fridgemagnet

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Thank you, no I didn't, I'm really not a twitterati so didn't know it was a two part thread. thanks for pointing it out to me.

:D TBH you know what I realise after the fact that it's obvious but there's been that many conflicting opinions from F.L (it's not just them in fairness) that when you see something that makes your eyebrows go "WTF" sometimes it's easy to make a fool out of an idiot.

I made a mistake.
Thanks.

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Gilzeanking

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Oh Lordy The Athletic has more negative info on NDombele vs Jose and players stating he isn't training at 100%.

Anyone subscribe to The Athletic ?
 

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I just went onto the athletic and didn't see anything new other than an article about if Dier should get a new contract
 
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