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Player Watch: Serge Aurier

wrd

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Part of me thinks jesus christ does this guy just not have the capacity to learn from his mistakes. The other part of me thinks well he's seemingly getting forced into doing his job where he's going to be running around with 21 other players and a whole host of those surrounding the game so is it hypocritical to condemn him meeting up with a hairdresser when he's going to be forced into undermining social distancing regardless.
 

Wsussexspur

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Just need to get rid of him! He was always going to be a risky signing. Had potential to be a really good right back unfortunately his attitude on and off the pitch just isn’t good enough.
 

Wig

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Surely if he needed a haircut he could ask the club to just bring a hairdresser/barber into the training ground and keep it quiet?
Totally. How stupid do you need to be to post a pic on social media sitting next to your barber. I'm sure all the other players are getting haircuts somewhere too, I mean look at Lamela with his new blond locks, don't tell me he did it at home himself. But posting pics of getting a haircut done while we're under lockdown is pretty thick.
 

brasil_spur

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Part of me thinks jesus christ does this guy just not have the capacity to learn from his mistakes. The other part of me thinks well he's seemingly getting forced into doing his job where he's going to be running around with 21 other players and a whole host of those surrounding the game so is it hypocritical to condemn him meeting up with a hairdresser when he's going to be forced into undermining social distancing regardless.

This is a terrible argument. There's a difference in these two activities. Should we also be allowing supermarket workers, builders, etc.. too all be going to the hairdresser too?
 

Houdini

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Part of me thinks jesus christ does this guy just not have the capacity to learn from his mistakes. The other part of me thinks well he's seemingly getting forced into doing his job where he's going to be running around with 21 other players and a whole host of those surrounding the game so is it hypocritical to condemn him meeting up with a hairdresser when he's going to be forced into undermining social distancing regardless.

Two wrongs etc...
 

yankspurs

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Other clubs players host sex parties, get piss drunk at a party and drive into a few cars, or get a woman to go over in the early AM and potentially rape her.

Our players either run out in public with a friend(which people are doing here in the states during this all the time) or get a haircut.
 

spids

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Part of me thinks jesus christ does this guy just not have the capacity to learn from his mistakes. The other part of me thinks well he's seemingly getting forced into doing his job where he's going to be running around with 21 other players and a whole host of those surrounding the game so is it hypocritical to condemn him meeting up with a hairdresser when he's going to be forced into undermining social distancing regardless.

Firstly, it shows how stupid it is to be trying to force the resumption of professional contact sport when the whole country is required to maintain social distancing as we're in the middle of a rather nasty pandemic.

Secondly, the whole Project Restart requires everyone involved to maintain strict quarantining, train in small groups and are get regularly tested. Breaking the small, trusted / tested circle to get a haircut puts the whole group at risk. On a related note, a first team coach in Germany popped out of the team hotel to get some toothpaste and had to sit out the first week of their resumed games in self-isolation as he broke the group quarantine.
 

yankspurs

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This is a terrible argument. There's a difference in these two activities. Should we also be allowing supermarket workers, builders, etc.. too all be going to the hairdresser too?
There’s also a HUGE difference in getting a haircut and engaging in actual criminal activity. Yet bizarrely, it seems everyones choosing to get worked up about this.
 

brasil_spur

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There’s also a HUGE difference in getting a haircut and engaging in actual criminal activity. Yet bizarrely, it seems everyones choosing to get worked up about this.

Because if one person feels they have the right to get a haircut then surely everyone should have that right. And if people are getting haircuts then surely other beauty treatments are allowed such as getting your nails done. If that's all ok then surely going to the gym and working out is also ok and so on and so on.

You can't contain a virus during a pandemic if some people are seen to be allowed to be getting away with the rules. Is it as bad as committing a crime - of course not, is it bad enough that people should be allowed to get worked up about it - maybe.
 

wrd

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Firstly, it shows how stupid it is to be trying to force the resumption of professional contact sport when the whole country is required to maintain social distancing as we're in the middle of a rather nasty pandemic.

Secondly, the whole Project Restart requires everyone involved to maintain strict quarantining, train in small groups and are get regularly tested. Breaking the small, trusted / tested circle to get a haircut puts the whole group at risk. On a related note, a first team coach in Germany popped out of the team hotel to get some toothpaste and had to sit out the first week of their resumed games in self-isolation as he broke the group quarantine.

Yeah agreed and that was my point was that if we're getting outraged about an individual having a hairdresser come to his house then how in the hell can they justify a contact sport which is the furthest thing from a necessity. I do completely agree however that if we're going forward with the ridiculous action to restart football that he has made a poor choice which has added further risk to his colleagues and further undermines the notion of this project restart.


This is a terrible argument. There's a difference in these two activities. Should we also be allowing supermarket workers, builders, etc.. too all be going to the hairdresser too?

No and that's not what I said whatsoever, what I pointing out that there's a huge hypocrisy in restarting the football.
 

thecook

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There’s also a HUGE difference in getting a haircut and engaging in actual criminal activity. Yet bizarrely, it seems everyones choosing to get worked up about this.

It would appear he has engaged in a criminal activity though. Just because he hasn't allegedly raped anyone doesn't mean its not a stupid thing to do, especially when he's been idiotic enough to have broken the law previously and seemingly not learnt from it.
 

brasil_spur

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Yeah agreed and that was my point was that if we're getting outraged about an individual having a hairdresser come to his house then how in the hell can they justify a contact sport which is the furthest thing from a necessity. I do completely agree however that if we're going forward with the ridiculous action to restart football that he has made a poor choice which has added further risk to his colleagues and further undermines the notion of this project restart.




No and that's not what I said whatsoever, what I pointing out that there's a huge hypocrisy in restarting the football.

Ah ok i misunderstood what you were saying there. A think hypocrisy is a strong way of phasing it though.

The thing with PL football is that it is very limited - i.e. there are only 20 business across the country conducting PL football. Whereas there are 40,000+ hairdressers. It's therefore much safer for the public as a whole if you allow 20 businesses to open than 40,000. I get there's then a secondary argument about the number of staff at a football club vs hairdresser, but it's not significant enough to impact the point here IMO.

Furthermore football clubs aren't "public" businesses. You, me and Dave down the road can't all wander in to watch Spurs training this afternoon, but we would be able to go to a hairdressers. So from a public safety standpoint you are not subjecting the public at mass to an activity that could cause widespread issues. This in turns allows you to put additional safety measures and precautions (such as the testing we have seen) in place, something which clearly is not feasible with a hairdresser (testing all their customers before they come in for a hair cut).

So at a basic level football is probably less of a necessity than having your hair cut (although this point is perhaps still debatable). However the potential public health impact from opening up PL football is going to be a lot larger than opening up every hairdresser (and presumably a range of other similar non essential services) at this stage.
 

WalkerboyUK

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It would appear he has engaged in a criminal activity though. Just because he hasn't allegedly raped anyone doesn't mean its not a stupid thing to do, especially when he's been idiotic enough to have broken the law previously and seemingly not learnt from it.

If you're talking purely about training in the park with Sissoko then no law was broken.
There is no "law" around any of this, which is why:
a) Police are effectively unable to enforce, other than by saying please go home.
b) Pretty much everyone charged under the "Coronavirus Bill" was wrongly charged, and all charges subsequently dropped.

Everything to do with social distancing is a guideline. You "should" do this, you "shouldn't" do that.

Doesn't make him any less of an idiot though.
 

yankspurs

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It would appear he has engaged in a criminal activity though. Just because he hasn't allegedly raped anyone doesn't mean its not a stupid thing to do, especially when he's been idiotic enough to have broken the law previously and seemingly not learnt from it.
Getting a haircut or running witn a teammate is not criminal.
 

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