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Player Watch: Serge Aurier

1882andallthat

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Lo Celso literally commited suicide with his tackle late on but won’t be given shit like Aurier.
The big difference though is that Lo Celso and many others wouldn't repeatedly try challenges like that inside the penalty area, Aurier seems to make absolutely no distinction whatsoever where he makes these types of challenges, and either doesn't understand or care or learns that you simply can't get away with it in the penalty area.
That is what really frustrates fans because it keeps happening with Serge Aurier, and that's why they say he can't be properly trusted, and we were fortunate that the City player struck such a tame penalty. 9 times out of 10 players smash in the penalty and at that time just before half time it would have been a big psychological blow against us that would have been very difficult for us to recover from.
 

Ron Burgundy

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Lo Celso literally commited suicide with his tackle late on but won’t be given shit like Aurier.

I just don’t understand this comment at all - and I’m not referring to the suicide vs murder point

Lo Celso committed a professional foul when he wanted to stop them advancing. It was calculated and good judgement.

Aurier seems to totally lack that judgement. Anyone making that sort of tackle in the box needs his head examined.

For sure he’s improving and deserves his place but I don’t think it’s a stretch to say he’s the most reckless defender in the league in his own box. That’s quite an Achilles heel for a defender
 

spursfan77

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He looks a character off the pitch. That kind of positive mindset can’t be under estimated. He just needs to leave that off the pitch and in fairness he is getting better. He’s still given away a goal against Southampton and a penalty yesterday. That’s not great. But he’s playing every game. Tiredness may be a factor.
 

muppetman

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I'm not a huge fan of him and it was definitely a pen (and unnecessary) but I thought he actually did quite a lot of good stuff also yesterday.

It's a bit of a concern that I go into a game expecting him to give away a pen against the better teams but even with that yesterday was one of his better games - as worrying as that is!
 

teedee

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As previous posters have said Aurier has improved greatly since Jose has been in charge, but he still suffers occasional rushes of blood to his head. Unfortunately they often occur when the opponent is in our penalty area. I doubt this can be coached out of him, it's a part of his nature. Mind you, he's not the only one. Sanchez, who generally had a decent game, also had rushes of blood to the head with two absolutely dreadful passes, one of which almost led to a goal. Lloris suffers similarly from time to time. What to do, eh?

I hope that Davies returns soon and Tanganga is moved to RB, which will shore up the defensive side.
 

spursfan77

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I'm not a huge fan of him and it was definitely a pen (and unnecessary) but I thought he actually did quite a lot of good stuff also yesterday.

It's a bit of a concern that I go into a game expecting him to give away a pen against the better teams but even with that yesterday was one of his better games - as worrying as that is!

I just noticed on the penalty a second before the challenge, aguero swings a hand at Aurier and hits him on the face. Had he gone down like he’d been shot, like lots of footballers do, then maybe dean would have blown up for the foul. Clutching at straws by me though perhaps.
 

SlotBadger

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Aurier made good contact on the ball
Aurier didn't touch the ball, although the contact on Aguero was minimal.

I was more irritated by Aguero staying on the floor for such a long time following the incident. Perhaps that swung VAR in his favour.
 

Tucker

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He’s definitely improving, the penalty aside I thought he played quite well yesterday. Just wish he wasn’t so reckless.
 

Eric_s

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Aurier didn't touch the ball, although the contact on Aguero was minimal.

I was more irritated by Aguero staying on the floor for such a long time following the incident. Perhaps that swung VAR in his favour.
You are the first person I spoke to that did not see Aurier clearing the ball. Its why Mike Dean waved play on initially before VAR, because the direction of the ball indicated Aurier got the ball. Many people don't think it's a penalty because Aurier made good contact with the ball while the leg of city's striker made contact with him.
 

al_pacino

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You are the first person I spoke to that did not see Aurier clearing the ball. Its why Mike Dean waved play on initially before VAR, because the direction of the ball indicated Aurier got the ball. Many people don't think it's a penalty because Aurier made good contact with the ball while the leg of city's striker made contact with him.

This is where blind defending of a player looks stupid. Aurier didn't get the ball and the first(independant) person you will have come across who thought that was the VAR. Dean didn't give the because it did look like he got the ball, the ball did move in a way that made it look like he got but he clearly didn't. Clear and obvious pen.

Beyond all of that he had a solid game. Sanchez had a solid game despite nearly letting them in early. Lo Celso made a poor pass late on but that one error doesn't ruin the rest of his game. Basically the team played well despite the odd error here and there.
 

yido_number1

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You are the first person I spoke to that did not see Aurier clearing the ball. Its why Mike Dean waved play on initially before VAR, because the direction of the ball indicated Aurier got the ball. Many people don't think it's a penalty because Aurier made good contact with the ball while the leg of city's striker made contact with him.
Aurier didn't touch the ball. It looked like it at first but the replay shows Aguero touched the ball and Aurier kicked him. It was a penalty and a stupid decision which we were lucky didn't cost us. Unfortunately he has this in his game and at his age it will happen every few games. If Mourinho wants to play the counter attacking game we are at the minute he will eventually need a defence that isn't error prone. Aurier will have to be replaced eventually but probably not straight away.
 

wrd

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Its not blind hatred to suggest that in this situation he made a rash decision to go for a tackle that wasn't worth the risk given that Aguero was going away from goal. He also didnt touch the ball, that was quite clear on the var replay.
 

yido_number1

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Making out Aurier's tackle for the penalty as rash or brain fart shows you are either blinded by your hatred or you are plainly stupid. The contact was so minimal that only repeated viewing on VAR spotted it. He was aggressive and denied space for the opponent to turn, saw the chance to clear and did. May not be the best option but being rash? Have some self respect.
The second he did it Carragher (An experienced defender) said that was rash and stupid and was a penalty. I'll trust someone that has played the game over your opinion. Mourinho's face said it all.
 

SlotBadger

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The second he did it Carragher (An experienced defender) said that was rash and stupid and was a penalty. I'll trust someone that has played the game over your opinion. Mourinho's face said it all.
It was needless and a little rash, but I don't want to go in too hard on Aurier because I thought he had a really good game overall.

However, I hate myself for agreeing with Jamie Carragher who sounded like he'd just impregnated the Mona Lisa when Aurier first made the challenge.
 

Reado

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The second he did it Carragher (An experienced defender) said that was rash and stupid and was a penalty. I'll trust someone that has played the game over your opinion. Mourinho's face said it all.

I think it was there to be won, but also no need to make the challenge in the box when Aguero is heading away from goal, but to be fair Carragher was gagging for Aurier to make a mistake all game. All he had said up to that point was about how he has a clanger in him, gets caught out of position etc., when I think Aurier has been pretty consistent under Mourinho and has had less mistakes than usual.
 

yido_number1

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I think it was there to be won, but also no need to make the challenge in the box when Aguero is heading away from goal, but to be fair Carragher was gagging for Aurier to make a mistake all game. All he had said up to that point was about how he has a clanger in him, gets caught out of position etc., when I think Aurier has been pretty consistent under Mourinho and has had less mistakes than usual.
Agree with you there. Carragher does think he's a liability and history would suggest he is right. Aurier has definitely been better under Mourinho but he remains a liability in our penalty box. I should imagine the coaching staff put a lot of time into him in training to try and improve his decision making. Until then you can tell they push him on as much as they can to avoid having him near the penalty box or last man situations.
 

teedee

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You are the first person I spoke to that did not see Aurier clearing the ball. Its why Mike Dean waved play on initially before VAR, because the direction of the ball indicated Aurier got the ball. Many people don't think it's a penalty because Aurier made good contact with the ball while the leg of city's striker made contact with him.
Better add me to your list. Aurier clearly did not touch the ball.
 
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