Player Watch: Serge Aurier

[dtxspurs]

seriously ?

Outside of the assist I don't remember any.

 

[Shadydan]

 

[BringBack_leGin]

That 5 successful take ones is the best part, it's such a huge benefit if he can consistently do that, we only need to look back at peak Walker to see the benefit of a full back who can carry the ball up the pitch.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Problem isn’t that aurier can’t do it for one game as he’s had good one off games before it’s the follow up games.

Can never put 3 or 4 excellent performances together.

 

[Shadydan]

Problem isn’t that aurier can’t do it for one game as he’s had good one off games before it’s the follow up games.

Can never put 3 or 4 excellent performances together.

Well now is a good time to see if he can do it.

 

[JayB]

A poor challenge resulting in a penalty and us going behind.

If that had been correctly given you'd barely see any mention of him being good today.

He was fine but lucky.

I genuinely can't believe the ratings you've received for this post. Yes Aurier was decent going forward and certainly deserves credit for that, but it's also the case that he made a rash challenge in the box at 0-0 and should have conceded a penalty. You're absolutely right that if VAR had reviewed the incident and given a penalty, which we were very fortunate to escape, he'd be getting slaughtered by fans. It would have completely changed the game.

This is the fundamental problem with Aurier. We all know that other than the mental lapses he's a very good fullback, but the problem is that the lapses are incredibly frequent and show no signs of abating. Yesterday was a quintessential example of an Aurier performance, both good and bad. If Jose can manage to coach the errors out of him we'll have a great player, but I'm not sure it's possible.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Aurier's challenge wasn't even close to being a foul, how he's getting any criticism for that is nuts. West Ham didn't even make a claim for it. The West Ham player as much made no attempt to jump for the header whatsoever, is Aurier meant to just let him have a potentially unchallenged header without even jumping? Because that was the only alternative, and I bet all of you criticising him for his challenge would equally be criticising him had he done nothing at all.

 

[JayB]

Aurier's challenge wasn't even close to being a foul, how he's getting any criticism for that is nuts. West Ham didn't even make a claim for it. The West Ham player as much made no attempt to jump for the header whatsoever, is Aurier meant to just let him have a potentially unchallenged header without even jumping? Because that was the only alternative, and I bet all of you criticising him for his challenge would equally be criticising him had he done nothing at all.

Perhaps the difference is having to do with different broadcasts of the match? On the American broadcast they showed the replay and the commentators made a huge deal of it. The attacker making no attempt to head the ball is irrelevant is the defender is going over his back and pushing him to the ground. Anywhere else on the pitch and it’s given as a foul. The NBC commentators were gobsmacked that no West Ham players made any appeals and I have to say I agree with them. Nothing you’ve pointed to precludes it from being a penalty.

I’ve got no agenda against Aurier. As I said I think he’d be a good player but for the constant mistakes, which I’m guessing is nearly the universal opinion of Spurs supporters.

 

[Meercat]

I think it’s interesting that everyone in here is posting so negatively about that header/challenge at 0-0. For alternative perspective anyone watching on Swedish tv heard the commentators rhapsodise over the brilliant defending that challenge represented because it couldn’t be deemed a foul as he had every right to go for it and by going up first he very cannily prevented the striker from jumping even though he knew he could never reach the ball and thus prevented what would likely have been a goal scoring opportunity. The commentary team picked up on it and then so did the half time guys, and none of the ex pros said ‘man that was dangerous/clumsy’ but three or four of the group did say it was very clever defending.

I know when I saw it my first impression was ‘shit he’s really mistimed that, here we go...’ but, anyway, I thought their perspective (including ex Sweden bronze medalist from the World Cup team and a central defender Pontus Kåmark) was interesting as maybe they see something we don’t.

 

[Windwarden]

Aurier's challenge wasn't even close to being a foul, how he's getting any criticism for that is nuts. West Ham didn't even make a claim for it. The West Ham player as much made no attempt to jump for the header whatsoever, is Aurier meant to just let him have a potentially unchallenged header without even jumping? Because that was the only alternative, and I bet all of you criticising him for his challenge would equally be criticising him had he done nothing at all.

I don’t agree with you often but do here. Lol Not sure about it not being close to being a foul but from the angles I saw, it was a pretty half hearted piece of simulation from the west ham player, as Aurier didn’t even jump into him, as it looked like he might.

 

[Seafordian Spurs]

Problem isn’t that aurier can’t do it for one game as he’s had good one off games before it’s the follow up games.

Can never put 3 or 4 excellent performances together.

Agree. It's not a lack of talent it's his inability to be consistent.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Agree. It's not a lack of talent it's his inability to be consistent.

I disagree, it’s neither. It’s primarily being a bad fit for one system, that is Pochettino’s system. Aurier isn’t a bad player, but as goes for many good players who aren’t outright world stars, he needs to not be given a too complex role. Playing FB for Pochettino, or indeed to a satisfactory level for most SC users, is a very hard task and very few can do it.

 

[DannyNZ]

Liked the small change with Davies tucking into what in effect became a back three when Aurier bombed forward. Thought he had a top game and look forward to him building on it.

 

[SandroClegane]

Perhaps the difference is having to do with different broadcasts of the match? On the American broadcast they showed the replay and the commentators made a huge deal of it. The attacker making no attempt to head the ball is irrelevant is the defender is going over his back and pushing him to the ground. Anywhere else on the pitch and it’s given as a foul. The NBC commentators were gobsmacked that no West Ham players made any appeals and I have to say I agree with them. Nothing you’ve pointed to precludes it from being a penalty.

I’ve got no agenda against Aurier. As I said I think he’d be a good player but for the constant mistakes, which I’m guessing is nearly the universal opinion of Spurs supporters.

The NBC commentators are always making a big deal about calls that would hurt Spurs as most of their top guys are gooners. I've seen them show replays over and over again of borderline calls saying how obvious it is that should have been a penalty or about how something was a dive that clearly wasn't.

 

[Cheltenham Spur]

The interesting thing for me about the Snodgrass incident is that before it happened one of the replays showed him sprinting back to defend.

I called him out after the Munich game for ambling back disinterestedly for a couple of the goals so there's some improvement there already.

 

[cozzo]

One thing I can see from a lot of the comments is that Aurier will never be given the benefit of the doubt. No matter how unjust a decision is. He just has to be on the same pitch. I haven't seen anyone mention his goal saving intervention at 0-0 preventing their player from a free header.

 

[Shadydan]

One thing I can see from a lot of the comments is that Aurier will never be given the benefit of the doubt. No matter how unjust a decision is. He just has to be on the same pitch. I haven't seen anyone mention his goal saving intervention at 0-0 preventing their player from a free header.

I suspect if he carries on from Saturday for the test of the season he'll be a slow burner just like Sissoko was.

Some people have their biases against him for a plethora of reasons.

 

[wirE]

I'd love if this were his regular stats and not every 4th or 5th game. We know he's gonna bottle it tomorrow and receive a straight red card

 

[Shadydan]

I'd love if this were his regular stats and not every 4th or 5th game. We know he's gonna bottle it tomorrow and receive a straight red card

True but let's hope he's able to put a consistent run together now under Jose, everyone gets a clean slate from now on so I'm going to forget about the past and look forward.

 

[Cochise]

I thought Aurier was his standard self tbh. The cross was beautiful, but we know that he has that in his locker. I had no problem with the challenge at 0-0 either, it was fair albeit appearing clumsy.

My biggest criticism's were the usual; trying to shield the ball out when he shouldn't be, rushing things that don't need rushing and taking risks where he shouldn't be.