Player Watch: Serge Aurier

[fuzzylogic]

Shocking for the second goal, zero effort to track the player, although dier hardly covered himself in glory with it either

 

[mr ashley]

You could see that Sheffield Utd were targeting Serge yesterday- not by dribbling past him like Gnabry did in the Bayern game, but by pressing our back four to push them to pass to Serge, and wait for his mistake.
The fact that our opponents target him tells us all we need to know. Serge is a significant weakness and needs replacing. Younger players like Bogle and Ngakia could work as back ups, Castagne could be a good option too.
One thing is certain: We will not improve with Serge starting at RB

 

[Wsussexspur]

And to think we got Aurier over Pereira... Who is now playing for Leicester rather than us ... hold me...

I wonder what bright spark thought that was a good idea...

Money is on Daniel Levy! He who controls and has the final say on everything to do with our club

 

[ajspurs]

I don't massively dislike him or anything and I wouldn't be against him being backup but we won't achieve a solid back 4 with him still in it. Definitely has to be replaced in the starting 11 for next season.

 

[Danny1]

Can't cross. Can't defend. Incredibly lazy.

SELL SELL SELL to literally anyone who wants him.

 

[razzmaster]

I don't massively dislike him or anything and I wouldn't be against him being backup but we won't achieve a solid back 4 with him still in it. Definitely has to be replaced in the starting 11 for next season.

I don't see him being the sort of player who is happy to be back up.

Sell now while we can still get a decent fee.

 

[Inq]

He belongs in a 3 at the back formation. Where he can operate as a wing back and not have to worry about tracking back as much. I don’t think he is a bad player at all. I just don’t think his attacking prowess suits us at the moment.

Seems like Sissoko’s main role these days is to keep a lookout on what Aurier is doing, so he can cover the glaring holes he leaves when bombing forward to join the attack.

Now don’t get me wrong. I do think attacking minded fullbacks is great. Walker and Rose were deadly but both of them knew when it was time to defend and to track back and our DM’s of dier and wanyama back then were definitely more competent than sissoko at it.

 

[spursfan77]

Awful. He can help sissoko with his packing. If either of them are here next season then be ready for nothing to change defensively.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Wasn't Serge part of the 'being clever' in the transfer market?

 

[$hoguN]

He is really awful. That is all...

 

[ikky]

He gets into good positions but his crossing is so poor, seems like only 1 good cross out of 10.

 

[double0]

It's not just him. The whole defensive unit including Lloris is totally weak we've been exposed.

 

[jay2040]

He belongs in a 3 at the back formation. Where he can operate as a wing back and not have to worry about tracking back as much. I don’t think he is a bad player at all. I just don’t think his attacking prowess suits us at the moment.

Seems like Sissoko’s main role these days is to keep a lookout on what Aurier is doing, so he can cover the glaring holes he leaves when bombing forward to join the attack.

Now don’t get me wrong. I do think attacking minded fullbacks is great. Walker and Rose were deadly but both of them knew when it was time to defend and to track back and our DM’s of dier and wanyama back then were definitely more competent than sissoko at it.

He belongs on the bench. Does he not struggle at throw ins as well?

 

[jolsnogross]

You could see that Sheffield Utd were targeting Serge yesterday- not by dribbling past him like Gnabry did in the Bayern game, but by pressing our back four to push them to pass to Serge, and wait for his mistake.
The fact that our opponents target him tells us all we need to know. Serge is a significant weakness and needs replacing.
One thing is certain: We will not improve with Serge starting at RB

The decline of our full-back play is as detrimental - and is as much to blame for our regression - as any other positional decline. I can't understand why we have allowed those key roles to be so diminished when you consider how important they were when we were consistently good. Walker and Rose were fantastic. Trippier was decent, if not Walker level. Davies is often solid, but not high level enough. Aurier is erratic.

We're basically down to essentially two guys at full back who should not really be nailed on starters in any serious top half side, without any competition or cover for those positions.

To top it all, we combine a ridiculously erratic and unreliable player in Aurier with a ridiculously predictable lop-sided full back tactic. It's easy for opponents to target Aurier because when they sit off us, they know he'll push wide and forward, Davies will tuck in and stay put, and they can target the space, the erratic player, the predictability, and the indecision that cascades around the rest of our side at the same time.

 

[Japhet]

The decline of our full-back play is as detrimental - and is as much to blame for our regression - as any other positional decline. I can't understand why we have allowed those key roles to be so diminished when you consider how important they were when we were consistently good. Walker and Rose were fantastic. Trippier was decent, if not Walker level. Davies is often solid, but not high level enough. Aurier is erratic.

We're basically down to essentially two guys at full back who should not really be nailed on starters in any serious top half side, without any competition or cover for those positions.

To top it all, we combine a ridiculously erratic and unreliable player in Aurier with a ridiculously predictable lop-sided full back tactic. It's easy for opponents to target Aurier because when they sit off us, they know he'll push wide and forward, Davies will tuck in and stay put, and they can target the space, the erratic player, the predictability, and the indecision that cascades around the rest of our side at the same time.

IMO there's a lot of revisionism that goes on with Walker and Rose. Although they covered a lot of ground on the flanks they were, IMO, pretty unproductive in forward areas. Aurier manages about 1 decent cross from 10 promising positions, but did Walker do any better? Rose too rarely produced anything offensively from his side. Walker would often burn the turf to snuff out danger, but more often than not it was of his own making. The word 'brainfart' was coined on here in frequent reference to Walker. I'm not an Aurier fan either and he often dozes off or makes rash challenges but I think people's frustration with him often leads to the rose tinted specs being put on when comparing him to Walker.

 

[jurgen]

The decline of our full-back play is as detrimental - and is as much to blame for our regression - as any other positional decline. I can't understand why we have allowed those key roles to be so diminished when you consider how important they were when we were consistently good. Walker and Rose were fantastic. Trippier was decent, if not Walker level. Davies is often solid, but not high level enough. Aurier is erratic.

We're basically down to essentially two guys at full back who should not really be nailed on starters in any serious top half side, without any competition or cover for those positions.

To top it all, we combine a ridiculously erratic and unreliable player in Aurier with a ridiculously predictable lop-sided full back tactic. It's easy for opponents to target Aurier because when they sit off us, they know he'll push wide and forward, Davies will tuck in and stay put, and they can target the space, the erratic player, the predictability, and the indecision that cascades around the rest of our side at the same time.

As soon as brilliant full backs became absolutely essential to top teams, they became high transfer fee positions, and strangely enough our investment in them stopped.

 

[punkisback]

Can't cross. Can't defend. Incredibly lazy.

SELL SELL SELL to literally anyone who wants him.

I think the one thing you can't accuse him of is laziness, the guy is probably one of the most intense players in our team; concentration is an issue but work rate isn't.

 

[Danny1]

I think the one thing you can't accuse him of is laziness, the guy is probably one of the most intense players in our team; concentration is an issue but work rate isn't.

Fair point however I think the two sometimes go hand in hand. Take Sheff Utd second goal, he just let the guy run past him & didn't even bother trying to get back. I think you are right & I also think it's a mix of concentration & a level of laziness from him.

However, I think we both agree that he isn't the answer for what we need going forward.

 

[Who’s our next manager?]

Fair point however I think the two sometimes go hand in hand. Take Sheff Utd second goal, he just let the guy run past him & didn't even bother trying to get back. I think you are right & I also think it's a mix of concentration & a level of laziness from him.

However, I think we both agree that he isn't the answer for what we need going forward.

Hi Gents, new member but very long term fan here.Been following the page for years though. Like everybody else I’m not a fan of Aurier and reckon we need to replace him. If we bring in someone else whether it be Aarons or whoever,should we sell Aurier? If we sell him to get much needed cash that will leave us with just the one right back. I know Tanganga can play there but he is,by trade, a central defender and I reckon he would not want to become more of a utility player so early in his career. What about a new player for money and a freebie ,Nathan Ferguson is available I believe.

 

[jolsnogross]

IMO there's a lot of revisionism that goes on with Walker and Rose. Although they covered a lot of ground on the flanks they were, IMO, pretty unproductive in forward areas. Aurier manages about 1 decent cross from 10 promising positions, but did Walker do any better? Rose too rarely produced anything offensively from his side. Walker would often burn the turf to snuff out danger, but more often than not it was of his own making. The word 'brainfart' was coined on here in frequent reference to Walker. I'm not an Aurier fan either and he often dozes off or makes rash challenges but I think people's frustration with him often leads to the rose tinted specs being put on when comparing him to Walker.

Walker was sold to City for 50million and they got a bargain. Doesn't look out of place at all in a champion side with his fair share of assists and key passes.

He was a mainstay in our best PL season ever. Unbeaten at home in all comps. 6 assists, 14 clean sheets, 21 league goals conceded all season when he was on the pitch.

The idea that I'm the revisionist in the rose tinted false equivalence between Aurier and Walker (based on past or present) is a bit rich.