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Player Watch: Serge Aurier

worcestersauce

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Everyone who has watched what Aurier can do at the best of times would know that he's more than capable of performances like the one he had this weekend. My negativity towards him was more about what he's played like for most of his career with us. Nothing would be better than him having turned a corner and start getting the best out of his abilities, and him putting up a masterclass after the preseason he's had was a very welcome bonus.
That's where I get puzzled, from my point of view how he has played for most of his career with us has been better than you seem to believe.
 

Goldman

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That's where I get puzzled, from my point of view how he has played for most of his career with us has been better than you seem to believe.

The thing that sticks out in my mind is his decision making, where he’s shown a habit of going in for rash challenges in dangerous areas of the pitch. He gave away a few penalties in his first season in the CL iirc.

But given what I’ve seen so far this season from our other options, I’d easily have him as our starting RB.
 

The Scarecrow

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IMO, Aurier has always been pretty good at fullback stuff. He's decent defensively, can beat a man, and is a very good crosser. The problem has always been his decision making (and throw ins). In games where he doesn't have to make any of those difficult decisions, his qualities become apparent.
 

Zummerzet Spur

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Yup. KWP is just too powder puff and at 22 years of age his not exactly a kid anymore. Unless he works on his strength, I'm struggling to see him make it at this level. Get's swatted away like a fly far too often and does seem like a boy playing a mans game. Just couldn't see KWP winning the ball in the air like Aurier did for our 3rd goal.
It was that exact moment where he used his strength to attack and win the header that really highlighted the difference between the two for me - like you said no way KWP wins that ball.
 

Darth Vega

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He showed on Saturday why he's the best right-back we have, but I still have some doubts. He'll make mistakes this season against better opposition and will cost us, so I think it's still an area we need to address in the long-run.

More than happy for him to be first choice this season with KWP as his understudy, but would not surprise me if we're looking for a first team right-back next summer.
 

Haddock

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His physicality and offensive output has always been miles ahead of Trippier, KWP, and Foyth. But he's still not good enough defensively against better opponents, mostly because he lacks discipline etc. I feel like Pochettino hasn't really trusted him when push comes to show. If Aurier will be our mainstay RB I'm certain he'll make the occasional mistake. But perhaps it's worth having a slightly weaker defence in favor of goal threat and delivery from the right.

Crystal Palace were awful but we also made them look awful because for once in I don't know how many months we actually forced them to make mistakes. If we can get our pressing game back I'm not as concerned wether we have top drawer defenders at FB or not because as long Rose / Aurier stretch the opponents back four there will always be space in the middle for Kane and the rest to work their magic.
 

double0

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Lacks discipline, mental errors, liability, not good enough defensively, mistakes, decision making. The one and only Aurier has a mighty job convincing people he is a decent player.
 

double0

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In balance to what I've wrote they are many also saying positive things about Aurier but IMO there's more negatives being said.
 
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JR1994

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@JR1994 . Not sure what you are disagreeing with these are some extracts of what I've read from other write ups.

Disagreeing because that perception of him is solely based off his first season. Last year he didn’t have 1 error leading to a goal and didn’t get sent off.. showed more than enough for me in the CL that there’s a player good enough there. He’ll benefit from being No1 RB and not getting rotated out every week..
 

Haddock

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Lacks discipline, mental errors, liability, not good enough defensively, mistakes, decision making. The one and only Aurier has a mighty job convincing people he is a decent player.

Goes for all of KWP, Foyth and Aurier.

It's ironic as Trippier was supposed to be our "safe" option. But last season he had a tremendous amount of blunders and brain farts.
 

Spurrific

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Lazy type-casting has plagued his time here. The adjectives attached to him have obviously been influenced by his reputation before he arrived here.
 

Timberwolf

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If I was an attacker I would rather be up against KWP than Aurier
Same as a defender. KWP always looks too timid when going forward and tends to cut back and look for a simple pass rather than taking players on.
 

C0YS

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He's had a few god matches for us, and I hope this is the start of something special. But he really hasn't been that good for us so far.

As is common, people tend to give newer players more time and focus more on what they did well. But Aurier in his early games for us was pretty lacking defensively, caught out of position pretty constantly and making poor decisions. He would also give the ball away a lot. Maybe his mistakes were less obvious than Trippiers but I really don't believe they were less common.

However, the other day he was good, and showed signs last season of getting better. So I hope he turns it around.
 

fortworthspur

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Lazy type-casting has plagued his time here. The adjectives attached to him have obviously been influenced by his reputation before he arrived here.

that just isnt fair. some of his performances have plagued his time here. he was good Saturday, but he's capable of coming out next game and committing a couple of absolute bonehead mistakes. I hope Saturday was a sign of things to come but people arent imagining his inconsistency.
 

Spurrific

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that just isnt fair. some of his performances have plagued his time here. he was good Saturday, but he's capable of coming out next game and committing a couple of absolute bonehead mistakes. I hope Saturday was a sign of things to come but people arent imagining his inconsistency.

Nah, it's fair - and it's true.

What's unfair is inane, inaccurate criticism being levelled at him. He has never been given a decent run of games, mostly having to play second-fiddle to somebody who was a vastly inferior defender. Saying he's capable of "lapses of concentration" and "bonehead mistakes" is yawn-inducing bollocks. Name one full-back that hasn't made defensive mistakes. Walker, messes up all the time. TAA, defensive fragility massively compensated for by VvD's existence.

Anybody that doesn't think his reputation has played a part in a load of our fans not taking to him is blinkered imvho. If he put in half of the performances Trippier did last season, he'd have been hounded out of Walthamstow or wherever he lives. His performance against Dortmund > anything Trippier ever produced for us.

What performances are you saying plagued his time with us, exactly?
 
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