Player Watch Player Watch: Ryan Sessegnon

[jolsnogross]

I reckon many on here are overlooking a key component of his game time so far at under Mourinho = he's following instruction to the letter. Don't risk losing possession by taking on your full back. Aurier is given license that Sess is not. In fact, it's possibly because Aurier has so much license with this lopsided set up that Sess must play conservatively. When we have more balance, we might see better from Sess.

I'd also agree that our players take too many touches and play their passes behind or at their teammates instead of into their stride or into space slightly ahead of them. It is utterly infuriating and been going on as long as Eriksen hitting the front man at a set piece. It's outrageous that it isn't addressed each and every week when reviewing games and out on the training pitch. A classic of the genre was the Moura & Son brekaway at the end of the Norwich game. Play the fucking thing ahead of Son there and he can take 1 or 2 touches before shooting or rounding the keeper. As it was, it was played way too softly when the room for error was in slightly overcooking it. But it's happening the whole time during run of the mill passing whereby the receiving player has to stand still and/or take an extra touch rather than move at a higher tempo.

 

[SpursTillIDie1882]

Exactly but he CAN become a good left back if given games and time to learn.

He can ONLY if he learns how to defend, beefup or strengthen up, not be brushed aside off the ball by opposition player breathing on him, if he can stop being afraid and meek .... its a big ask or masive massive learning he needs to do in a very short period of time.

Lets be honest offensively which is his key attributes he has been literally non existent, he doesnt look like a small fish in a big pond, he looks like a single krill in the ocean atm. this is purely on what he has showed so far , i was very excited by his signing and really want him to do well but he has literally shown us nothing at all.

 

[Havre]

So far in a Spurs shirt you are probably right but from his Fulham days he is a player who relies on a give and go rather than beating a man with pace or skill. Wing back would probably suit him best but playing with Lo Celso and Ndombele will bring the best out of him imo.

Maybe. I personally have seen no evidence of that, but it never hurts for any player to play with better passers of the ball.

I didn't watch Sessegnon much in that Championship season. I saw the play off against Villa and odd bits here and there. I also watched quite a few of the YouTube videos. So I'm not going to say I am an expert on Sessegnon from that time. Clearly my understanding of him as a player from that season is limited, but I never saw much proof of intelligence from that limited viewing. I saw some great finishing. Pace and someone that can hit the ball sweetly (a potential good crosser). That is not bad for a young player, but nothing special. I think many, I'm speculating here, are blinded by his goals number from that year. A number which I think was unsustainable in terms of his goals to shots ratio.

Then in the PL he was OK. Don't think what he showed from Fulham was more than OK. I saw the same issues as he is having with us. Hiding. Poor of the ball movement. Not able to beat his man. A decent young player in my estimation. Nothing more nothing less.

Then I agree with someone elses comment that he seems to be really trying to do what Mourinho wants him to do. Clearly a positive. And you never know with young players. Step by step they develop and suddenly it looks a lot better. I think he can become a good LB still. Don't think he will make it as a winger.

 

[Real_madyidd]

For the record I disagree with those not seeing much from him. Looks good to me, not quite polished but I am happy so far.

 

[sparx100]

I like him. I think he is an intelligent player who is just timid at the moment for fear of making a mistake. Giving away the penalty would have done him no good but he needs to play further forward in my opinion at this stage of his career.

He made a cross that was just over Deles head against Norwich which was pretty much on the button and between the 2 defenders. Neither Rose or Davies could ever produce that.

He was constantly available as an outlet but for some reason ignored - perhaps the team are aware of his nervousness. He makes the right runs and is cute on the ball. A good passer and very aware of what is going in around him.

Let's not crucify him yet. He has just started his career. The talent is there it is just about him getting the confidence.

 

[Montalbano]

We need to stick with him and let him develop, especially while Davies is out. Didn't play LB last season.

 

[coys200]

The 2 videos on Spurs media today show he’s quite a shy guy and a bit timid. And I think that’s just showing in how he plays. Imo there’s a big difference between someone like Tanganga who’s been at the club his whole life and has no price tag. For these young players with big price tags and expectations it’s a lot of pressure. Who was the last player under 22 we bought that really hit the ground running ? Dier and Dele maybe but they were cheap buys. Just look at Bale as the prime example.

 

[N17-77]

Patience yes, but this is a player with 3 seasons of senior football already under his belt.
His timidity and fear is screaming from his body language and actions. Question over mentality, is my worry.
9 out of 10 passes over the half way line are safe 5-8yard passes backward and square.
He's miles away from deserving a starting berth. Signs are not at all good so far. Let's hope that changes.

 

[Hercules]

Patience yes, but this is a player with 3 seasons of senior football already under his belt.
His timidity and fear is screaming from his body language and actions. Question over mentality, is my worry.
9 out of 10 passes over the half way line are safe 5-8yard passes backward and square.
He's miles away from deserving a starting berth. Signs are not at all good so far. Let's hope that changes.

Very fair comment

 

[Spurrific]

Very fair comment

It's a load of bollocks. Our coaches trust him to start, one of the most prolific winners in football history trusts him to start but some absolute nobodies on the Internet can question his mentality? He's a 19 year old kid, describing him as "somebody with 3 years experience" is disingenuous when two of those seasons were in the Championship and one was in a relegation dog-fight being deployed in numerous positions. It's getting fucking embarrassing reading this utter waffle our fans are determined to spout in desperate need of writing off our young players.

He plays with his head up, there's intent in his crossing and passes forward and he's tenacious. To say "the signs are not good at all" is dumb.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

New team. Alien system. Team in a state of flux.

He will be fine. Fan expectations are sometimes just too much. Give the lad a break. JM has openly said he isnt ready for the lwb position and needs to learn it. He can only.do that with minutes, he was only in there against Norwich by default. We will see more of the lad in advanced positions. Scored a cracking goal in the champs league.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

Come to think of it. Most of the criticisms aimed at him could well be said of the other players. He did ok vs Norwich, certainly no worse than Danny. I recall some good crosses into the box I've not seen in a while.

 

[barry]

Based on my limited viewing of Sess, i was against signing him. I didn't see anything that warranted a 25 million pound bid.
Now that he's here i think he looks alright. Got some good attributes that i think could be molded into something decent. I think we should all give the kid a wee bit of time.

 

[N17-77]

It's a load of bollocks. Our coaches trust him to start, one of the most prolific winners in football history trusts him to start but some absolute nobodies on the Internet can question his mentality? He's a 19 year old kid, describing him as "somebody with 3 years experience" is disingenuous when two of those seasons were in the Championship and one was in a relegation dog-fight being deployed in numerous positions. It's getting fucking embarrassing reading this utter waffle our fans are determined to spout in desperate need of writing off our young players.

He plays with his head up, there's intent in his crossing and passes forward and he's tenacious. To say "the signs are not good at all" is dumb.

Wow a strong rebuttal from some Nobody on the Internet.
I had thought my comment was quite balanced and clearly prefaced and caveated with the need for patience and the prospect of improvement.
A key point is that he's being talked about as a rookie because he's young. That is the actual point that's disingenuous. He already has 111 senior professional football appearances. I'm sure he has a much higher ceiling than he has shown, but he is not some wet-behind-the-ears rookie.

 

[-Afri-Coy-]

It's a load of bollocks. Our coaches trust him to start, one of the most prolific winners in football history trusts him to start but some absolute nobodies on the Internet can question his mentality? He's a 19 year old kid, describing him as "somebody with 3 years experience" is disingenuous when two of those seasons were in the Championship and one was in a relegation dog-fight being deployed in numerous positions. It's getting fucking embarrassing reading this utter waffle our fans are determined to spout in desperate need of writing off our young players.

He plays with his head up, there's intent in his crossing and passes forward and he's tenacious. To say "the signs are not good at all" is dumb.

Just to add to this, as I've stated before on another thread he is always looking to make runs off the ball, and he is looking for one-twos with the forward players.

This has never materialized on the pitch, the ball always ends up back in the middle or on the right and it drives me insane.

 

[Spurrific]

Wow a strong rebuttal from some Nobody on the Internet.
I had thought my comment was quite balanced and clearly prefaced and caveated with the need for patience and the prospect of improvement.
A key point is that he's being talked about as a rookie because he's young. That is the actual point that's disingenuous. He already has 111 senior professional football appearances. I'm sure he has a much higher ceiling than he has shown, but he is not some wet-behind-the-ears rookie.

Nah, there was nothing disingenuous about what I said. He is young and he is a rookie. He's played a few games for us, a totally new club. He came to play for Poch and he's gone - he still has to settle and regardless of how many seasons he played for dog-shit Fulham, he is green when it comes to a club like Spurs and the pressures that come with that. You said, "Signs are not at all good so far" - where he has shown more than enough promise for the less tetchy and trigger-happy among us.

 

[wrd]

He comes across in interviews and also his play-style as very intelligent, so for me it stands to reason that that can be a blessing and a curse and in a new environment, bigger expectations, huge names in the dressing room he's probably overthinking a bit and causing some anxiety. He just needs to be given the time to settle. Honestly giving away the penalty might be a blessing in disguise as he can see it's not the end of the world when he makes a mistake and hopefully that helps him relax a bit.

 

[Havre]

I agree that a young kid in most cases needs time to settle in, but let us not pretend he was some kind of force playing for Fulham. Doens't mean he can't change, but it is far from a given. Winks struggles with the same thing in my opinion. KWP the same. They should both be very comfortable at the club.

The other end of the continuum you got someone like Haaland. It is more than possible for a young player to approach things in a very different way than Sessegnon.

That said. I have no problem with waiting 3-4 years for Sessegnon.

 

[coys200]

I wouldn’t dismiss his injury either first major one of his career. Was 5 months it must have knocked his confidence.

 

[dontcallme]

I would say the fact that a manager who focuses on results over development is playing a 19 year old is a good sign.

None of our players are really performing at the moment. Some are at the end of their time here but I believe many won't perform to their premium until we get the team dynamics right.