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Player Watch: Richarlison

JUSTINSIGNAL

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People in positions of power have to be held responsible for their decisions, especially when their consequences are worth tens of millions. I don't think he ever showed that he had the quality to be our main striker while at Everton. Furthermore he certainly didn't fit the bill for what Conte needed. Similarly by your logic you could say Conte just didn't work out. Or you could say we were idiots for appointing a man who was always going to be explosive if he didn't get his way, and we decided not to give him many of the players he wanted. That catastrophe was inevitable.

As a fanbase we don't bemoan the club for not singing high level players, we want the right ones after we've done our due diligence. I'm not sure we did with Ndombele. Lo Celso, Lamela or even Soldado are fair gambles who didn't work out.

He didn't fit the bill of what Conte wanted? How did you figure that out when Conte was the one who targeted him?

 

JUSTINSIGNAL

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Conte wanted Luis Diaz, and when we missed out on him we went for Richarlison. Based on that I don't think even Conte knew what he was looking for but having watched us play under him I don't see an obvious role for Richy in that system

What? You’re just making stuff up
 

rossdapep

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Richarlison's not to blame. He's perfectly entitled to do what's good for his career and his life. In particular, going to Saudi would have permanently tarnished him back in Brazil, given the reputation he's built for his left-wing politics (in contrast to most big name Brazilian footballers, many of whom are fascists). It's not his fault that he's injury prone, or that our poorly-performing medical team at the time didn't either pick up on that before he signed or help him stay fit once he was here, or that we gambled so much on him in terms of transfer fee and wages.
What a wonderful generalisation to make. Not true either
 

coy-spurs1882

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Conte wanted Luis Diaz, and when we missed out on him we went for Richarlison. Based on that I don't think even Conte knew what he was looking for but having watched us play under him I don't see an obvious role for Richy in that system
didn't we went for Kulu when we missed out Diaz?
 

Snarfalicious

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Yeah, don’t think Richarlison was a bad signing on ability, he’s just had horrible injury luck since joining. He missed games here and there for Everton, but this run of injuries I don’t think could have been predicted.
 

punkisback

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I just think he lacks technique and touch to be reliable enough. Also always looks to get involved in a physical battle then go to the ball. Another player who believes his own hype and thinks he’s better than he is.
would you trust him to finish a chance in a tough game against our rivals to seal the win? I wouldn’t.
 

13VanDerBale13

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Sounds like he’ll be out for quite a while.

Hopefully we can sell him in Jan & replace, but I have my doubts.

Dom is going to need some rest during the Xmas period, let’s see if Lankshear can step up.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Sounds like he’ll be out for quite a while.

Hopefully we can sell him in Jan & replace, but I have my doubts.

Dom is going to need some rest during the Xmas period, let’s see if Lankshear can step up.
How are we going to sell a player in January who probably can't pass a physical?

Best case scenario for Spurs - he is back in 2-3 months, has healthy run-in, and we can move him next summer.

But, it remains up to Richarlison if he wants to move.
 

dude573

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Quite a heart breaking situation. He is such an emotional player and you can see how desperate he is to succeed here.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Sounds like he’ll be out for quite a while.

Hopefully we can sell him in Jan & replace, but I have my doubts.

Dom is going to need some rest during the Xmas period, let’s see if Lankshear can step up.
We’ll need Odobert and Werner back soon so Sonny and Kulu can cover as sorry but Lankshear is no where near ready yet.

Yes he got a tap in yesterday but he couldn’t hold the ball up at all, it was like playing with 10 men and then he lost his head and got sent off, absolutely no problem with that as the lad is 19 and needs plenty of time to develop but if we want to try to get top4 and win a cup, we need to add someone in January as if Richy is out long term we’ll burnout Solanke.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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but if we want to try to get top4 and win a cup, we need to add someone in January as if Richy is out long term we’ll burnout Solanke.
I think the challenge is that if we wait for the end of January - then Richi will be almost back - and then, it becomes a bit less necessary.

And, I don't really fancy our chances of getting anyone in at the start of January.

Realistically, we are probably looking at Odobert back in December, which will give us: Son, Moore, Werner, Solanke, Johnson and Odobert for the festive period and early FA Cup matches in January. Son, is likely to see time at striker, which is not ideal, but its the hand we are likely to play - more so than spending money on a striker in late January.

Maybe another injury changes that - but for now, I can't see it - unless you count Yang.
 

rossdapep

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We’ll need Odobert and Werner back soon so Sonny and Kulu can cover as sorry but Lankshear is no where near ready yet.

Yes he got a tap in yesterday but he couldn’t hold the ball up at all, it was like playing with 10 men and then he lost his head and got sent off, absolutely no problem with that as the lad is 19 and needs plenty of time to develop but if we want to try to get top4 and win a cup, we need to add someone in January as if Richy is out long term we’ll burnout Solanke.
Think Lankshear will need to go down the Kane route of having a few loans to gradually build up that sharpness.

He struggled yesterday with the intensity. Doesn't get the time or comfort he's used to so any loose touch or touch into the wrong.space and he couldn't adjust to sharper players around him, something he could so at youth level.

Kane was equally awkward when he made his Spurs debut and looked miles off the level.

But Kane's loans helped him to build up that rhythm and understand how to use his body.

Can be quite difficult for tall strong players like Lankshear as they can bully u19 defenders but then at senior level they are coming up against stronger, faster and more intelligent (experienced) players who use all those factors to outthink you.

Having said that, he didn't disgrace himself (his red card was frustration and exuberance) as he did show good movement on occasions.
 

funkycoldmedina

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How are we going to sell a player in January who probably can't pass a physical?

Best case scenario for Spurs - he is back in 2-3 months, has healthy run-in, and we can move him next summer.

But, it remains up to Richarlison if he wants to move.
It will be interesting to see if he wants to go to a less demanding league for career longevity considering how these injuries are just more than one unlucky occurrence now.
 

WiganSpur

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Think Lankshear will need to go down the Kane route of having a few loans to gradually build up that sharpness.

He struggled yesterday with the intensity. Doesn't get the time or comfort he's used to so any loose touch or touch into the wrong.space and he couldn't adjust to sharper players around him, something he could so at youth level.

Kane was equally awkward when he made his Spurs debut and looked miles off the level.

But Kane's loans helped him to build up that rhythm and understand how to use his body.

Can be quite difficult for tall strong players like Lankshear as they can bully u19 defenders but then at senior level they are coming up against stronger, faster and more intelligent (experienced) players who use all those factors to outthink you.

Having said that, he didn't disgrace himself (his red card was frustration and exuberance) as he did show good movement on occasions.
Lankshear is for sure promising but I think he needs to improve his pressing and hold up play before he is ready to play more than 5-10 times for us. He does have a striker’s instinct though.
 

WiganSpur

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He just cant stay fit. Such a shame. I guess we'll get a few games here and there but it’s a huge problem.
My way of dealing with the problem until we can reassess it at the end of the season would be to switch Werner and Spence’s registration for the EL and subsequently move Gray and Kulusevski further up the pitch. Gray covers 8 and Kulu plays backup striker when Solanke needs a rest. We can also give Lankshear a few runs from the bench if we’re winning matches comfortably.
 

TOLBINY

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Can't fault his effort when fit, output could be better at times (he's not the only one though) but moving on might be best for both him and us.
 
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