- Jun 24, 2013
- 2,783
- 7,946
That feels like the most logical course of action, yes.Sure we'll be OK leaving Forster out of Europe.
That feels like the most logical course of action, yes.Sure we'll be OK leaving Forster out of Europe.
After a quick bit of searching for "Not registered in uefa squad [club name]" I can see the following highlights:Do they? If there are some recent examples that would make me feel a lot better about it!
After a quick bit of searching for "Not registered in uefa squad [club name]" I can see the following highlights:
Liverpool leaving out Adrian last season, and using that emergency goalkeeper thing as a fallback.
Newcastle leaving four senior players out of their CL squad.
Villa naming a 22 man squad because they only had 1 club trained player.
Chelsea leaving out three players after their made January in 2023 (so the season before last).
I have a feeling City named a shortened squad last year, although they have a bunch of players who qualify for the B list, and well... City!! And I suppose we should ignore the Chelsea one too because they are such a basket case of a club. Also, I don't know the full ins and outs of the above... it's just a quick search and I'm not looking to proclaim anything.
Of our players to be potentially cut, I think Forster is the obvious one.
I think it's plausible to cut Gray to let him win his place in the team/squad anyway.
Possibly the same logic applies to Bergvall.
I think there's an argument to cut Werner depending on who else we might sign.
And an argument to cut Davies for the early stage of the competition as well.
There are pros and cons to all of those of course, but the positive is that the person making the decision (Ange) will know the character of these players better than any of us, and it's up to him to make that call. We don't know what Ange has planned for the young players, and we don't know how he views the seniors.
Bottom line (for me) is that we shouldn't be compromising our long-term squad building in order to satisfy the Europa league quota. If a player is going to get the hump for 4 months then so be it. I reckon we are better off having to decide to cut a player, rather than being short of overall quality.
Not sure what you are trying to say, but basically the Europa rule is this:To add to this.
My understanding is that HG and CT overlap (a total of 8 association trained with 4 being club-trained), so registering 2 out of 4 club-trained players essentially means we don't have to register more than 6 HG players.
I.e. let's say we register 7 HG and 2 club-trained players, in that case, my understanding is that we lose two squad places, not three.
As I said, that's my understanding. Would be happy to be corrected if I've misunderstood the rules.
In your scenario, you have 5 association trained (but not club trained) players, but there is only room for 4. So the extra assoc trained guy eats up one of the 17 non-HG spots. That is in fact the situation we are in at the moment. We have 6 assoc trained players before we leave Forster out entirely (emergency GK) and have to count Spence as one of the 17 non HG if he is to be included in the euro roster.To add to this.
My understanding is that HG and CT overlap (a total of 8 association trained with 4 being club-trained), so registering 2 out of 4 club-trained players essentially means we don't have to register more than 6 HG players.
I.e. let's say we register 7 HG and 2 club-trained players, in that case, my understanding is that we lose two squad places, not three.
As I said, that's my understanding. Would be happy to be corrected if I've misunderstood the rules.
You're right. Some caffeinated mental gymnastics from me.Not sure what you are trying to say, but basically the Europa rule is this:
Maximum squad of 25 “senior” (over 21) players, must include 2 keepers
Of those 25,
Maximum of 17 can be non-HG
4 can be HG - association trained
4 can be HG - club trained
if you register 6 HG - association trained players, then you can only register 15 non-HG
Really odd comments from “Saudi fans” to this post from Richarlison
Really odd comments from “Saudi fans” to this post from Richarlison
Bergvall says hello
Double countingBergvall says hello
Mabye that is the puzzle then, we go for Solanke & Neto and then if we want a 3rd signing we need to sell e.g. Richy.Yep - we have to leave Forster out just to bring in Solanke and Neto. If we wanted a 3rd someone in the “real” 1st team would have to be sold or not registered.