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Erm33

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Richy can't play in the wing, in my opinion and I'm not sure where this idea has suddenly come from?
Yeah, he's played there in the past but as far as I remember, he's been pretty shit there for us.
Can't take a man on, no real pace and no real trickery either.

With the way we play, Richy should be a striker and nothing else.
Yeah, he played on the wing for bloody Watford and Everton but I really don't want to see him there for us.
I mean he defo can play off the left. Would he be a first choice option there? No. But I can see times where he could do a decent job out there. He actually did ok the few games he played on the left when he was playing through his injury. Positionally he was excellent and was getting into the right areas of the box to have attempts at goal from off the wing.

If you had a Neto type on the right and you had both Solanke through the middle and Richy coming in from the far post to attack a ball from Neto, seems a decent option we could use at times in the season, no? People are too focused on having the exact players we need for the perfect plan A. Sometimes plan A doesn't work against a team who gets it right against us defensively, its a good thing to have options to put in plan B, C and D til you can unlock what works in that specific game.
 

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I mean he defo can play off the left. Would he be a first choice option there? No. But I can see times where he could do a decent job out there. He actually did ok the few games he played on the left when he was playing through his injury. Positionally he was excellent and was getting into the right areas of the box to have attempts at goal from off the wing.

If you had a Neto type on the right and you had both Solanke through the middle and Richy coming in from the far post to attack a ball from Neto, seems a decent option we could use at times in the season, no? People are too focused on having the exact players we need for the perfect plan A. Sometimes plan A doesn't work against a team who gets it right against us defensively, its a good thing to have options to put in plan B, C and D til you can unlock what works in that specific game.
No

He's behind son, Werner, deki, Moore, Solomon for that role
 

yido-1989

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Kane was 2 years older when he broke out and we had Adebayor and Soldado at the start of that season (2014). Why put the pressure on Lankshear at 19 when he can get spells in the team and if good enough replace Richarlison next year. When Kane had his breakout season we then sold both Adebayor and Soldado in 2015.
This whole scenario was based on us selling richy to have extra funds to buy Eze who would add more quality to squad.

If this did happen Lankshear wouldn’t be under pressure because you would still have players ahead of him, In Kulu, Son etc but he would have a good role in the squad.

if there’s no chance of us buying a 10 (Eze) to cover Maddison as a fan I’d more than likely keep richy around, but as a club I can see us selling if we get the opportunity as the fee would be too good to turn down.
 

cliff jones

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So, Saudi offer on or close to table, would accept

Solanke comes in and both him and Richarlison available

Ange picks Solanke

Richarlison feels he’s second choice and looks at the Saudi offer positively

In the meantime we’ve bought Neto

We do the deal with Saudi and naively then go all in for Eze. But it’s too late, Palace act up/Eze does the loyalty thing

Our window is Gray, Werner loan, Solanke for Richarlison, and Neto

Is that enough? Is Ange backed? Not for me given what we needed. Still not a CL competitive squad…

My crystal ball is a little murky so perhaps it all unfolds very differently, who knows
 

Real_madyidd

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So, Saudi offer on or close to table, would accept

Solanke comes in and both him and Richarlison available

Ange picks Solanke

Richarlison feels he’s second choice and looks at the Saudi offer positively

In the meantime we’ve bought Neto

We do the deal with Saudi and naively then go all in for Eze. But it’s too late, Palace act up/Eze does the loyalty thing

Our window is Gray, Werner loan, Solanke for Richarlison, and Neto

Is that enough? Is Ange backed? Not for me given what we needed. Still not a CL competitive squad…

My crystal ball is a little murky so perhaps it all unfolds very differently, who knows

Just all feels a little familiar.
 

mark87

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There's so way we buy both Solanke and Neto without Richy leaving. No way on this earth are we about to drop circa £120m without a large chunk of money coming in, we've been here before too many times, it's all too familiar, it just won't happen.
 

Finchyid

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So, Saudi offer on or close to table, would accept

Solanke comes in and both him and Richarlison available

Ange picks Solanke

Richarlison feels he’s second choice and looks at the Saudi offer positively

In the meantime we’ve bought Neto

We do the deal with Saudi and naively then go all in for Eze. But it’s too late, Palace act up/Eze does the loyalty thing

Our window is Gray, Werner loan, Solanke for Richarlison, and Neto

Is that enough? Is Ange backed? Not for me given what we needed. Still not a CL competitive squad…

My crystal ball is a little murky so perhaps it all unfolds very differently, who knows
Bergvall says hello
 

Roberts84

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We have to remember that Richy was our Kane replacement. Would you guys be happy if we replaced Kane with Solanke last summer?
If Richy leaves for 60m it would be so underwhelming to find us spending all that money on in my eyes 3 tier striker, who is not European-proven.

Arsenal are going for the likes of Isak, gyökeres, and Osimhen without selling their biggest star for 100m and we are not ready to spend a dime over that 60 we are getting for Richy.
Emerson and Hojbjerg will cover the gray and Bergvall deals and with other possible outgoings like Lo Celso, Skipp, and Soloman we could end up doing a net profit this transfer window. Is that what we call giving Ange a fair crack at even fighting for CL spots?
Whilst I agree with your post. Arse haven’t signed any of those so not really relevant
 

SpartanSpur

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So, Saudi offer on or close to table, would accept

Solanke comes in and both him and Richarlison available

Ange picks Solanke

Richarlison feels he’s second choice and looks at the Saudi offer positively

In the meantime we’ve bought Neto

We do the deal with Saudi and naively then go all in for Eze. But it’s too late, Palace act up/Eze does the loyalty thing

Our window is Gray, Werner loan, Solanke for Richarlison, and Neto

Is that enough? Is Ange backed? Not for me given what we needed. Still not a CL competitive squad…

My crystal ball is a little murky so perhaps it all unfolds very differently, who knows

I think we've still moved forward personally if that happens. Especially if we've also signed a promising LB or DM alternative in the meantime.

If Richy were to go I'd hope we went for Eze or an alternative though (Baena, Doue). Maddison competition is a key area and that Saudi outlay should pay for something extra.
 

Ghost Hardware

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I think we've still moved forward personally if that happens. Especially if we've also signed a promising LB or DM alternative in the meantime.

If Richy were to go I'd hope we went for Eze or an alternative though (Baena, Doue). Maddison competition is a key area and that Saudi outlay should pay for something extra.
Personally I want an Eze alternative even if Richy stays. Maybe Doué becomes more realistic if Richy goes but if he doesn’t then I see no reason why we couldn’t get Baena given his significantly lower price
 

djhotspur

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There's so way we buy both Solanke and Neto without Richy leaving. No way on this earth are we about to drop circa £120m without a large chunk of money coming in, we've been here before too many times, it's all too familiar, it just won't happen.
Disagree. We are about to sell Emerson taking us to positive 3m, we have 4 more players to sell/loan, we’ve shifted huge wages off the books, trimmed the squad hugely.
we could easily have a net spend of 100m… we have done the last few seasons.
 

djhotspur

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Personally I want an Eze alternative even if Richy stays. Maybe Doué becomes more realistic if Richy goes but if he doesn’t then I see no reason why we couldn’t get Baena given his significantly lower price
Would hope if he still want baena then we can involve Gio in the deal
 

mark87

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Disagree. We are about to sell Emerson taking us to positive 3m, we have 4 more players to sell/loan, we’ve shifted huge wages off the books, trimmed the squad hugely.
we could easily have a net spend of 100m… we have done the last few seasons.

Don't agree. What we need and what will happen is two very different things. It's just highly unlikely we spend that on two players without a big sale to partly offset it.
 

Mattspurs1982

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So, Saudi offer on or close to table, would accept

Solanke comes in and both him and Richarlison available

Ange picks Solanke

Richarlison feels he’s second choice and looks at the Saudi offer positively

In the meantime we’ve bought Neto

We do the deal with Saudi and naively then go all in for Eze. But it’s too late, Palace act up/Eze does the loyalty thing

Our window is Gray, Werner loan, Solanke for Richarlison, and Neto

Is that enough? Is Ange backed? Not for me given what we needed. Still not a CL competitive squad…

My crystal ball is a little murky so perhaps it all unfolds very differently, who knows
We were only 1 point away from CL last year. ONE POINT.

We were CL competitive last year - but as we know, a horrific amount of injuries impacted our form etc. and we suffered a lack of depth (PEH, Gil, Royal all not good enough). Now we have arguably already upgraded Royal / PEH (Gray), Maddison (Bergvall) and are looking to replace Gil with Neto. Swapping a generally unfit Richy for Solanke could also be considered an upgrade purely on the basis that the latter might be able to stay healthy longer than the former (and we may even have both!).

On top of all this, we have the likes of Moore, Phillips, Donley, Lankshear all a year older and better integrated.

I'm confident we will remain CL competitive.
 

Ron Burgundy

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It's nothing personal against the guy, but I'll be a bit disappointed if we don't get this done/he goes - and it doesn't sound like he will. It's fair enough, but this would be a massive boost for us.

I can see him going for c. 20 or 30m or less (depending on time and form) at some point. Compared to c. 60m now, that is a massive hair cut, in particular when you consider what we could do with the cash in the meantime.

If we bring Solanke in, I wouldn't be concerned about striker depth, when you put it against the possibility of investing that money at some point in the future.

It could really help us this money, and would be a (relatively) rare example of us actually selling well - something we seem to have forgotten how to do, which is hugely damaging on incomings.
 

Ghost Hardware

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Would hope if he still want baena then we can involve Gio in the deal
Yeah that would certainly be one I’d be trying to work. Would make a lot of sense. Tbh might even be able to add Solomon on loan as well.

Obviously if Eze isn’t happening then I’d be hoping we go all guns blazing for Doué but realistically at this point Baena would probably be a lot more realistic a deal to do.
 

Basil Brush

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There's so way we buy both Solanke and Neto without Richy leaving. No way on this earth are we about to drop circa £120m without a large chunk of money coming in, we've been here before too many times, it's all too familiar, it just won't happen.
I think we have been looking at getting at least 2 big names for a while without selling richy. It is just that we have possibly pivoted from eze to solanke.

I have no doubt we can afford 2 big purchases without selling richy. It is just whether or not we pull the trigger
 

mark87

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I think we have been looking at getting at least 2 big names for a while without selling richy. It is just that we have possibly pivoted from eze to solanke.

I have no doubt we can afford 2 big purchases without selling richy. It is just whether or not we pull the trigger

Not saying we can't afford it, we definitely can, I just don't see Levy sanctioning it.

And although we've heard we've been looking to bring in two all window i.e. Neto and Eze, while that may have now changed to Neto and Solanke, I never believe we would sign two of those without a big sale, never been convinced by it.
 
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