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Player Watch: Min-hyuk Yang

Yiddo100

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There’s space for him as replaces Werner in the squad surely with some cup minutes
Space in the squad possibly but still see very little minutes if any.

Just have to wait and see what level he’s at when he arrives.
 

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6 months to settle in the country is the best thing for him. He can adjust to the training level and culture before we decide what to do in the summer.
 

Marty

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6 months to settle in the country is the best thing for him. He can adjust to the training level and culture before we decide what to do in the summer.
He's also coming in off the back of a calendar year season that started in March, we definitely shouldn't be expecting anything of him when he's likely tired and needs recovery time after a long season.
 

Ghost Hardware

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With that excellent strike aside (that @philll posted above) it was another relatively unremarkable showing by Yang.

Gangwon have been approaching their post season games somewhat conservatively with a tendency to go for the first goal, all be it in a slightly reserved fashion, then sit back and defend. Due to this we aren’t really seeing the best of Yang but even so i do think he could have maybe done a little more. That said he wasn’t bad ether.

Today Gangwon set up in a rather compact 4231 but in possession they flipped to more of a 253. Yang although starting at RW essentially sat in the right half space for the majority of the game and rarely went out to the touchline. The width was provided by the full backs. Second half after Yang scored Gangwon switched to a back 5 again, similar to their last game against Seoul, and saw out the game.

This win puts Gangwon 1 point off top placed Ulsan (who play Pohang tomorrow). Gangwon play Ulson next Friday.

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Just on Yang in general, I do think we need to keep in mind when he joins us in Jan he will be coming in off the back of a full season. His first match was back on March the 2nd and the last game of the season is on Nov the 23. So far he has played 2787 mins across 35 league games and this is his first season of senior football. Gangwon still have 3 games to play and Yang has played the full 90 mins of the last 5 games including the one this morning. By comparison Porro was our most played outfield player last season in the PL and he finished the season on 3093 mins. There’s every chance Yang could being in touching distance of that by the end of the current campaign and he only turned 18 in April.

Yes he will have had a month off but we still need to manage him carefully, the last thing we want to do is cause him to burn out by sending him on loan. Aside from that I think it would be far more beneficial for him to stay and adjust to the life in London rather than be shipped out.
 

Marty

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Yes he will have had a month off but we still need to manage him carefully, the last thing we want to do is cause him to burn out by sending him on loan. Aside from that I think it would be far more beneficial for him to stay and adjust to the life in London rather than be shipped out.
The sensible thing to me would be six months of mostly training and acclimatisation with maybe a couple of minutes here and there and the odd U21 game before the summer break. Don't put any early pressure on him.
 

Ghost Hardware

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The sensible thing to me would be six months of mostly training and acclimatisation with maybe a couple of minutes here and there and the odd U21 game before the summer break. Don't put any early pressure on him.
By far. Next season if we don’t think he is ready to contribute meaningful then we can look to loan him out but for now we gain very little imo by loaning him out. This has already been a monumental season for him. No need to push it.
 

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I wonder what the plan is for him when he joins, you want the players to be playing but I can’t see where he gets many first team minutes currently. A loan I think is out of the question.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he plays a few u21 games and asses at the end of the season.
Gets some u21 asses?
Lucky bugger
 

rambu

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Really have no expectations for him this year. Huge gap in competitions, teen in a new country, plenty of things to get use to.

Anything from him this season will be a mega bonus, just give him time and I’m thinking a couple seasons. If you are worry about getting minutes away from Moore, that’s being way too optimistic.
 

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I wonder what the plan is for him when he joins, you want the players to be playing but I can’t see where he gets many first team minutes currently. A loan I think is out of the question.

Wouldn’t be surprised if he plays a few u21 games and asses at the end of the season.
Get him to complete military service
 

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Gangwon’s tittle hopes ended this morning when they lost 2-1 away to now champions Ulsan. It was always going to be a tall order as they haven’t won there since 2012.

A fairly cagey affair for most of the first half until Ulsan scored a slightly questionable goal just before the break. This meant that Gangwon had to come out attacking in the second but despite a sumptuous goal from Lee Gangwon couldn’t turn it around.

Yang, sitting just off the right should of Kovačević again in the right half space, had another very quiet game. With the exception of one really nice moment in the first half where he skinned the FB, drove to the byline and fired in a quality low cross that flashed across the face of the goal he was very much a peripheral figure that failed to influence the game. He pressed hard but nothing really worked for him and the game largely passed him by. For the last 10 mins he was moved over to left side but by that stage the game was fairly disjointed and desperate.

Gangwon now have two games left to see out their season and claim a Champions League place. Top three get a spot.
 
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allatsea

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Gangwon’s tittle hopes ended this morning when they lost 2-1 away to now champions Ulsan. It was always going to be a tall order as they haven’t won there since 2012.

A fairly cagey affair for most of the first half until Ulsan scored a slightly questionable goal just before the break. This meant that Gangwon had to come out attacking in the second but despite a sumptuous goal from Lee Gangwon couldn’t turn it around.

Yang, sitting just off the right should of Kovačević again in the right half space, had another very quiet game. With the exception of one really nice moment in the first half where he skinned the FB, drove to the byline and fired in a quality low cross that flashed across the face of the goal he was very much a peripheral figure that failed to influence the game. He pressed hard but nothing really worked for him and the game largely passed him by. For the last 10 mins he was moved over to left side but by that stage the game was fairly disjointed and desperate.

Gangwon now have two games left to see out their season and claim a Champions League place. Top three get a spot.
Do you ever get any sleep or work done ?
 

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I can't be bothered to do a write up of his last match. Gangwon lost 4-0 to Suwon and really Suwon could have scored 5 or 6. It was a very poor defeat as Suwon were in 6th spot going into the knock out stages, which is the lowest qualification place, and this was their first win after two losses and a draw.

Gangwon were absolutely awful and so was Yang who was invisible for the majority of the game and failed to do much of anything on the few occasions he had the ball. The only positive thing I can remember is one cross in the 75/6th min of the game aside. I would not recommend anyone waist their time to watching it on replay.

Even the commentator said that Yang has been poor/underwhelming during the post season and essentially doesn't look ready for the PL. He also said something along the lines of "i don't know what the plan is for him but a loan might be the best move".

Personally I think an immediate loan would be a bad move as i've explained previously but I do agree with him that he has been very ineffective during the play offs and probably won't be contributing much at all during the second half of the season.

Because of this loss Gangwon have dropped down to 3rd and their last game of the season is on the 23rd against Pohang.
 

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I can't be bothered to do a write up of his last match. Gangwon lost 4-0 to Suwon and really Suwon could have scored 5 or 6. It was a very poor defeat as Suwon were in 6th spot going into the knock out stages, which is the lowest qualification place, and this was their first win after two losses and a draw.

Gangwon were absolutely awful and so was Yang who was invisible for the majority of the game and failed to do much of anything on the few occasions he had the ball. The only positive thing I can remember is one cross in the 75/6th min of the game aside. I would not recommend anyone waist their time to watching it on replay.

Even the commentator said that Yang has been poor/underwhelming during the post season and essentially doesn't look ready for the PL. He also said something along the lines of "i don't know what the plan is for him but a loan might be the best move".

Personally I think an immediate loan would be a bad move as i've explained previously but I do agree with him that he has been very ineffective during the play offs and probably won't be contributing much at all during the second half of the season.

Because of this loss Gangwon have dropped down to 3rd and their last game of the season is on the 23rd against Pohang.
I do question a few of the signings made over the last few years as to what the primary reason was. Cynical me wonders if this was more about keeping the S. Korean Won flowing into the club over footballing reasoning.
 

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I dont mind the signing as he was a cheap one to take a punt on. He will need plenty of time though and we might not get much chance to play him 2nd half of the season. The real issue is that we have Moore , Odebert and Yang while the first choice options are lacking. If we signed a top wide player instead of Werner this one would probably make more sense. Now I fear people are going to be desperate for him to come in and make a difference which he isn't ready for yet.
 

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I do question a few of the signings made over the last few years as to what the primary reason was. Cynical me wonders if this was more about keeping the S. Korean Won flowing into the club over footballing reasoning.
Statistically speaking Yang matches up very favourably in his age group and he really has had an excellent season overall. 11 goals and 6 assists in 37 games given its his first senior season is very impressive whichever way you look at it. There where even rumours that City were very keen. But obviously the K League is incredibly weak and he is evidently still very raw.

If we had been clever we should have gone for Kang-In if we wanted to succession plan for Son (in regards to his nationality) as he would already be playing a key part in our system and will likely take Son's place as SK's next biggest star. Realistically I very much doubt we will see much of Yang for a few seasons and even then it's anyones guess how good he will really be. I really like the look of the kid, he has a very good technical floor and seems an intelligent player but the jump will be absolutely massive for him in every aspect.

Whilst from a statistical pov I can understand why we got him (given Lange's fondness for data), considering we very rarely look outside Europe for our transfers, and the strength of the league he currently plays in, I think it was very much a move with marketing being the primary driving force. Just have to hope he becomes good enough to market.
 

Metalhead

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Statistically speaking Yang matches up very favourably in his age group and he really has had an excellent season overall. 11 goals and 6 assists in 37 games given its his first senior season is very impressive whichever way you look at it. There where even rumours that City were very keen. But obviously the K League is incredibly weak and he is evidently still very raw.

If we had been clever we should have gone for Kang-In if we wanted to succession plan for Son (in regards to his nationality) as he would already be playing a key part in our system and will likely take Son's place as SK's next biggest star. Realistically I very much doubt we will see much of Yang for a few seasons and even then it's anyones guess how good he will really be. I really like the look of the kid, he has a very good technical floor and seems an intelligent player but the jump will be absolutely massive for him in every aspect.

Whilst from a statistical pov I can understand why we got him (given Lange's fondness for data), considering we very rarely look outside Europe for our transfers, and the strength of the league he currently plays in, I think it was very much a move with marketing being the primary driving force. Just have to hope he becomes good enough to market.
This is exactly what I would have said, if I'd had any knowledge on the subject.
 
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