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yido_number1

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I don’t want to overhype him but christ, his technique is bloody beautiful. We haven’t had a player in our midfield like that for absolutely ages. Probably since Modric and we need this sort of player so badly.

No pressure, lad 😅
Haha definitely passes the eye test. I think you're doing eriksen a disservice going back to modric.

Can't see a scenario where he's ready to break through this year. Such a big gulf between the leagues and the relocation. Hopefully he gets a chance if he shows he's ready.
 

Coolpudge

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Haha definitely passes the eye test. I think you're doing eriksen a disservice going back to modric.

Can't see a scenario where he's ready to break through this year. Such a big gulf between the leagues and the relocation. Hopefully he gets a chance if he shows he's ready.
Yeah I would guess at the start of the season the plan will be to play him in the Carabao cup and Europa League before being properly integrated into the premier league team.
 

Bluto Blutarsky

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Haha definitely passes the eye test. I think you're doing eriksen a disservice going back to modric.

Can't see a scenario where he's ready to break through this year. Such a big gulf between the leagues and the relocation. Hopefully he gets a chance if he shows he's ready.

Dele made the jump from League 1 at about the same age - which, according to this, is just a little bit lower than where Bergvall is now: https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/

Bergvall looks ready physically to handle the jump - which tends to be a big hurdle for many young players.
 

fecka

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Dele made the jump from League 1 at about the same age - which, according to this, is just a little bit lower than where Bergvall is now: https://www.globalfootballrankings.com/

Bergvall looks ready physically to handle the jump - which tends to be a big hurdle for many young players.
As someone mentioned, Allsvenskan is somewhere inbetween league one and the championship in level. The best team, Malmö FF, would comfortably be a top half championship team while the bottom teams can be around bottom half league one, so the gulf of quality in the league itself is not insignificant.
 

Danny1

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Looks such a talent. Seems to have that air of arrogance about him as he knows the ability he has, which is a very good thing.
 

fecka

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To add to the 10 vs 8 discourse; I don’t think he has the athleticism / physicality to be a Premier League box to box player. I can’t see him developing into that sort of player either.

He’s already showing he has nose for the goal and the eye for a pass. I like the idea of him occupying the spaces Maddison does. He definitely seems more ready to slot in as a Maddison deputy to me. Candidly I don’t know how you can watch both players and not draw similarities.
i’m honestly a bit baffled by this take.

He’s a 6ft2 18-year old already weighing in at around 170 pounds. In the last year alone he increased his muscle mass by 17 pounds.
He’s in the top percentile in covering ground, rides challenges for fun in a highly physical league and has great acceleration.

Could you elaborate on your stance? I don’t understand it at all.
 

Hotspur33

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Yeah I would guess at the start of the season the plan will be to play him in the Carabao cup and Europa League before being properly integrated into the premier league team.
For me the path into the 1st team, might be as one of the wide forward positions.
Modric started out playing wide for us to help him acclimatise to the league.
He has the skill set and youthful enthusiasm to take on a defender 1v1 and looks to have the intelligence.
 

Coolpudge

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For me the path into the 1st team, might be as one of the wide forward positions.
Modric started out playing wide for us to help him acclimatise to the league.
He has the skill set and youthful enthusiasm to take on a defender 1v1 and looks to have the intelligence.
I don’t think Modric was trusted to play in centre midfield when he first got to Spurs. I don’t think Redknapp thought he was physical enough to play in midfield whereas Bergvall bigger than Modric and I don’t think the premier league is as physical now as it was in 2008.

Plus from what I’ve read in recent interviews with him he has said that he feels like he’s being kicked a bit more now he’s got his move to Spurs. That opposition players are trying to be a bit more physical with him which could help us get him acclimated more quickly to English football
 

GutBucket

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I watched Modric and Kovacic in similar league and same age and they didn't look much different. He can definitely shoot better than both but long passing is slightly worse, remains to be seen what type of a midfielder he ends up being. Seems to have great mentality, supporting family and great potential, he will be great and soon I think. It will take some time to adapt to this league's pace and having less time to make a pass.
 

Blake Griffin

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i’m honestly a bit baffled by this take.

He’s a 6ft2 18-year old already weighing in at around 170 pounds. In the last year alone he increased his muscle mass by 17 pounds.
He’s in the top percentile in covering ground, rides challenges for fun in a highly physical league and has great acceleration.

Could you elaborate on your stance? I don’t understand it at all.
it's because he's silky and pretty to look at so gets typecast as a flimsy #10.

like you say though the kid is big and already with good power and stamina. looks like he could settle into any midfield role to me. sometimes i watch him and think frenkie de jong and other times he looks like a bigger odegaard.
 

newbie

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i’m honestly a bit baffled by this take.

He’s a 6ft2 18-year old already weighing in at around 170 pounds. In the last year alone he increased his muscle mass by 17 pounds.
He’s in the top percentile in covering ground, rides challenges for fun in a highly physical league and has great acceleration.

Could you elaborate on your stance? I don’t understand it at all.

he grew 5 inches in one year they where saying to 2020 so maybe it was part,y his body catching up
 

mil1lion

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I thought Redknapp moved Modric to wide attack simply because he wanted him further forward. Ramos had him too deep for the qualities he had. Redknapp played 2 up top so he either played him central or in off the wing. Once Bale came good he moved forward and Modric took up central midfield. I'm not sure Modric couldn't play central to begin with under Redknapp. I think he just wanted him to be more influencial to our attack. We're already very attack minded under Ange, he plays a central attacking midfielder and needs width from the wide attacker. Bergvall will for sure play in what we refer as the 6, 8 or 10 positions.
 

yido_number1

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I thought Redknapp moved Modric to wide attack simply because he wanted him further forward. Ramos had him too deep for the qualities he had. Redknapp played 2 up top so he either played him central or in off the wing. Once Bale came good he moved forward and Modric took up central midfield. I'm not sure Modric couldn't play central to begin with under Redknapp. I think he just wanted him to be more influencial to our attack. We're already very attack minded under Ange, he plays a central attacking midfielder and needs width from the wide attacker. Bergvall will for sure play in what we refer as the 6, 8 or 10 positions.
I know redknapp tells porkies but this gives a summary

 

Westmorlandspur

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I know redknapp tells porkies but this gives a summary


Modric gave an interview this year when he gave credit to Redknapp for moving him into a deeper position. Felt he improved as a player at Spurs. Harry may seem a bit dodgy but he can certainly manage a team. People forget he finished 4th in his last season and only Chelsea winning CL stopped us from another CL season.
We had Bale and Modric in same team and won nothing
Kane and Son….nothing.
Probably win the Europa next season with a dodgy team and a flukey penalty.
Ill take it.
 

purplemonkey

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I know redknapp tells porkies but this gives a summary

Sorry to take this OT but this was one of my favourite and most memorable games of all time. That NLD marked the birth of Modric as a CM, Bale as a goalscoring machine, and Spurs as a team to be taken seriously. I was sat right behind Rose’s debut wondergoal and witnessed the finest collection of saves I’ve ever seen from Gomes. That night propelled us towards our first CL qualification and put the final nail in the coffin for Arsenal’s title challenge. It was the first time we’d beaten Arsenal for over a decade and it was Campbell’s first return to the Lane since rejoining them. This game was directly after we’d lost that awful FA Cup semi against Portsmouth and we were struggling with a succession of injuries to key players which threatened to blow up our season, including Palacios and Lennon, hence why Redknapp brought in Rose and moved Modric inside. So many narratives in one single game.
 

arunspurs

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New Brazil scout video on Bergvall...

What a smooth operator. (y)
If he can bring this to PL, we are in for a lot of fun....

 

Komma

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At the age of 53 I don't much care about is he an 8/10.
To me he is a BALLER and that was the reason I loved Tottenham when I was a kid.
Hoddle, Waddle, Gazza, Ginola and Bergvall. COYS.
 
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