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ajspurs

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Jul 7, 2007
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Can't see Maddison beng sold soon at all. At the end of the day irrespective of what is thought of him as a starter or leader, he's still a fantastic option to have off the bench.
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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Is this because we have the wrong players for our system, or the wrong system for the players we have?
(No, I won’t leave this be)
Neither.

Our strategy is obviously to play the wingers high and wide to stretch the defence.

Maddison isn’t the kind of player capable of doing that.
 

Tucker

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Jul 15, 2013
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So wouldn’t that fall into the category of system that doesn’t suit our players?
No, because Maddison isn’t a winger. What you’re suggesting is the same as questioning if we have a flexible manager because he refuses to play Dragusin up front.
I’m not asking anyone to account for it, I’m suggesting that a decent coach would accommodate it, respond, react to it. Do something different as a result.
I honestly think you’re just trolling at this point.
 

chas vs dave

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Jul 17, 2008
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Why are people talking about selling?

He still has a part to play, he had to win the righr to start, and his perfromances have dropped off since the utd game, imo
 

keithtighe93

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Saw a suggestion about playing him on the left, and it’s absolutely a good idea for some games/situations.

In fact, we did it in a game this season already where he took up positions there and Sonny came more central.

Against low blocks, it can work. He has great ball control and dribbling that Son just doesn’t have, and he can get by defenders by throwing them off balance and wrong footing them.
 

Saoirse

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Aug 20, 2013
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After a couple of minutes delay, Maddison was the first player to come and clap the supporters. A few sheepishly followed him.

He was booed, as is understandable after that showing from the team, and kept clapping anyway.

That's the leadership we need. Start him at City.
 

Reado

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Nov 3, 2008
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Hardly did himself any favours with his cameo, but he's not the biggest of our issues.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Aug 4, 2005
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Average player capable of purple patches.

Takes far too many touches and too long to release the ball, lacks consistency and quality. He also lacks fight and disappears far too easily, not the kind of player who’s going to drag us back in to matches when things are going wrong.

I would sell him in the summer and replace him with a proper talented CAM like @Ghost Hardware man Alex Baena.
 

Impspur1

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May 8, 2014
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After a couple of minutes delay, Maddison was the first player to come and clap the supporters. A few sheepishly followed him.

He was booed, as is understandable after that showing from the team, and kept clapping anyway.

That's the leadership we need. Start him at City.
I put that in the same category as sonny keep on saying the same in interviews. Talk and gestures are easy. Lead on the pitch not after the game has finished
 

Ghost Hardware

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Aug 31, 2012
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Average player capable of purple patches.

Takes far too many touches and too long to release the ball, lacks consistency and quality. He also lacks fight and disappears far too easily, not the kind of player who’s going to drag us back in to matches when things are going wrong.

I would sell him in the summer and replace him with a proper talented CAM like @Ghost Hardware man Alex Baena.
Agreed. I really want us to be brutal next summer. We need to take a long hard look at this squad and decide who isn’t up to scratch. Whilst I think we need to give some leeway to younger players in general we don’t have the squad space for water carriers. Everyone has be able to meaningfully contribute and everyone should be vying for a starting spot.

Players like Maddison, Biss, Richy even Romero - if he has doubts about being here then we should sell him and replace him with someone fully committed. And I love Romero but we need to put the squad above everyone.

Really the only players I’d put as off limits are VDV, Udogie, Sarr, Kulu, Moore, Gray, Porro, Odebert, Bergvall, Yang, Vušković, Spence and Solanke. I’d probably keep Son for another season to help Yang but not as a guaranteed starter unless we change formation. Everyone else needs to prove they have the fight in them.
 

Tucker

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I put that in the same category as sonny keep on saying the same in interviews. Talk and gestures are easy. Lead on the pitch not after the game has finished
I keep seeing this being posted about a lot of our players “not showing leadership.” But what does that even mean?

How do people know they aren’t showing leadership? Because they aren’t shouting at the other players? Or because they’re playing badly?

What represents good leadership?
 

Trix

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Jul 29, 2004
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I keep seeing this being posted about a lot of our players “not showing leadership.” But what does that even mean?

How do people know they aren’t showing leadership? Because they aren’t shouting at the other players? Or because they’re playing badly?

What represents good leadership?
You can spot good leaders a mile off on the pitch. They shout and bollock when they need to, they encourage, they lead by example when things aren't going well, and one thing they do more than anything is they don't allow those around them to slack off. What they don't do is go missing when backs are against the wall.

Sonny is more a club captain than an on field one for me. He's a wholesome role model poster boy, not someone you'd want to be stuck in the trenches with
 

fishhhandaricecake

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Is this because we have the wrong players for our system, or the wrong system for the players we have?
(No, I won’t leave this be)
Maddison has never really worked well as a LW, he’s doesn’t have the pace or physicality, he’s best as a CAM/n.o10, however physically he doesn’t suit this current style having to sprint up and down 60yards all the time.

I think we are finding out why the big PL teams were never interested in him and why the England managers don’t usually pick him but I think in the right system he can be really good, he’s just a bit off form lately and I don’t think he particularly suits this crazy high line style tbh.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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You can spot good leaders a mile off on the pitch. They shout and bollock when they need to, they encourage, they lead by example when things aren't going well, and one thing they do more than anything is they don't allow those around them to slack off. What they don't do is go missing when backs are against the wall.

Sonny is more a club captain than an on field one for me. He's a wholesome role model poster boy, not someone you'd want to be stuck in the trenches with
💯 this.
 
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