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mil1lion

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First game where his game didn't drop off after 60 minutes. If this is him finally fully fit, then we need to make sure we manage him so that he's able to do this regularly. Can't flog him to exhaustion again
You have to really hope that Ange puts more faith in Bergvall than he did GLC. He's the ideal player to start in his place and I think good enough for the cup games. Although with no Europe last season maybe he would have played GLC some more too.
 

mil1lion

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But none of your business. How he reacts, in a seat he paid money for, is his choice, within limits of decency. He’s probably telling his friends that the people in front of him were just there for a day out and couldn’t care less about the game…
He has every right to cast an opinion of how another fan reacts inside the stadium/in public. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just as the other fan has have every right to react how he likes within reason.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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He has every right to cast an opinion of how another fan reacts inside the stadium/in public. Nothing wrong with that at all. Just as the other fan has have every right to react how he likes within reason.
Me too. What’s your particular problem?
 

chas vs dave

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But none of your business. How he reacts, in a seat he paid money for, is his choice, within limits of decency. He’s probably telling his friends that the people in front of him were just there for a day out and couldn’t care less about the game…
Swearing and calling people a c word in front of kids isnt within the realms of decency.

Its funny, because he has certainly never sat in that seat before. I would know.

Ranting and raving is not the sign of being a better fan.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Swearing and calling people a c word in front of kids isnt within the realms of decency.

Its funny, because he has certainly never sat in that seat before. I would know.

Ranting and raving is not the sign of being a better fan.
But you thought his reaction was hilarious?
 

McFlash

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But none of your business. How he reacts, in a seat he paid money for, is his choice, within limits of decency. He’s probably telling his friends that the people in front of him were just there for a day out and couldn’t care less about the game…
Without doubt, it's the blokes right to act like a twat but if he's doing it in public, everybody else has the right to take the piss out of him.

Wait, you were that bloke, weren't you?!
🤣
 

ComfortablyNumb

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Without doubt, it's the blokes right to act like a twat but if he's doing it in public, everybody else has the right to take the piss out of him.

Wait, you were that bloke, weren't you?!
🤣
He wasn’t acting like a twat just because some other fan thinks was. And I’m not suggesting we can’t take the piss out of him. But what’s hilarious about it?
 

SA_Spurs

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I don't think 7/10 is passing any eye test. He's been pressing well, certainly not always passing backwards (not sure where that lie comes from), but things just haven't been coming off for him. Some of that is options in front of him due to players not making positive runs. Maybe he hasn't trusted his body after the injury because today he pushed to a 9/10 performance by driving with the ball himself and moving the ball quicker. We need that level more consistently. But there's also an element of others not performing either and he's not a world class player who performs when the team is not functioning well around him. Who scored less than Maddison end of last season? Would take less time to say who performed better. Porro and VdV. Everyone else was below par and no higher than 7/10.
i agree he needs people around him to perform better & that's where the eye test is subjective! You may look and see a player playing well & I may look at and see a player who's missing passes. what I like about what Madders did yesterday was that literally NO ONE can dispute his quality and how he bossed the game. It then lifted his teammates levels too! We can both agree it's a team sport and 1 player playing well is likely not going to result in win after win (unless it's a messi/ronaldo type player). Anyways, we can debate here for a ling time about performance - what;s not up for debate is his quality and what he's capable of and frankly I welcome him making us eat our words as the season progresses
 

McFlash

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He wasn’t acting like a twat just because some other fan thinks was. And I’m not suggesting we can’t take the piss out of him. But what’s hilarious about it?
I wasn't there, so of course I don't know what the bloke did but if there's an adult having a temper tantrum at anything, pretty sure I'm laughing at him...unless there's a chance that he'll kick the shit out of me, of course. 😁

We can't police how people act, in the same way we can't police how people react to it.

To be honest, I don't really understand why you've taken issue with what @chas vs dave said?
 
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ComfortablyNumb

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You're the one suggesting someone shouldn't voice their opinion on another fan. Ironically you're now using the same argument, I literally said anyone is free to voice their opinion.
Complete bollocks, I don't mind anyone voicing their opinion, but I often disagree with those opinions.
 

Trix

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One good game and all of a sudden he’s out there like he’s had Beckhams whole career.

let’s see him put it together for 5/6 games before we start building the statue.
If we can criticise players when they have a bad game, then surely we can praise them when they have a really good one?

On top of that I personally think he's had a solid start to the season anyway.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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You're the one suggesting someone shouldn't voice their opinion on another fan. Ironically you're now using the same argument, I literally said anyone is free to voice their opinion.
Complete bollocks. Have you even read the first post that I responded to?
 

Trent Crimm

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If we can criticise players when they have a bad game, then surely we can praise them when they have a really good one?

On top of that I personally think he's had a solid start to the season anyway.

Not sure o criticised. Let me check. Nope.

if you read on youd have read that I said he’d had a great game I just wanted consistency because he’s the epitome of flaky.

hey ho brother.
 

Trix

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Not sure o criticised. Let me check. Nope.

if you read on youd have read that I said he’d had a great game I just wanted consistency because he’s the epitome of flaky.

hey ho brother.
Never said you did criticise I clearly said "if we can criticise" that's a we meaning all/any of us. Just pointing out that's part of being a football fan. If you can sit there and say you have never criticised a player after having a bad game, I'll happily bow down to your restraint and patience. Fact is no one is "building him a statue" they are just saying he had a very good game and that this was reminiscent of his form early on last season.
 

Trent Crimm

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Never said you did criticise I clearly said "if we can criticise" that's a we meaning all/any of us. Just pointing out that's part of being a football fan. If you can sit there and say you have never criticised a player after having a bad game, I'll happily bow down to your restraint and patience. Fact is no one is "building him a statue" they are just saying he had a very good game and that this was reminiscent of his form early on last season.

Ah got ya. My misunderstanding ❤️
 
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