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I don't think winks is good enough and is one of the main reasons we have struggled for over a year now. We've gone from peak wanyama and Dembele to winks who offers nothing imo. Not strong enough to provide a shield for the defense and is poor in the tackle, and hasn't got the ability or the vision to add anything in the final third. 2 goals in 4 years with next to zero assists from midfield is pathetic whatever way you look at it. Upgrade desperately needed
Didn’t have a single tackle today. Lo Celso has 7...
 

fortworthspur

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needs someone stronger next to him. I think it has to be Dier over Gedson or TN, even with his limitations.
 
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Wasn't an issue in the previous few games though, no noise around his game, people even saying how much better he looked - change of tactics, formation today and he has reverted. No, he wasn't great today, but his time alongside Gio he had begun to look far more assured.

Something to do with the change of formation or personal today? Who knows, better stick with the 'he's shit' line, it's easier.
 
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Wasn't an issue in the previous few games though, no noise around his game, people even saying how much better he looked - change of tactics, formation today and he has reverted. No, he wasn't great today, but his time alongside Gio he had begun to look far more assured.

Something to do with the change of formation or personal today? Who knows, better stick with the 'he's shit' line, it's easier.

For me even when he has supposed to of had a good game according to pundits and fans for me he is never above a 7/10 he just doesn't do enough for me and can't remember any stand out performances no magic moments, nothing. Nothing against the lad as he seems a decent kid and can't fault his passion and work ethic but he's just a bit meh, wouldn't stand out for a Norwich or a Bournemouth for me, just another average over hyped English player,
 
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For me even when he has supposed to of had a good game according to pundits and fans for me he is never above a 7/10 he just doesn't do enough for me and can't remember any stand out performances no magic moments, nothing. Nothing against the lad as he seems a decent kid and can't fault his passion and work ethic but he's just a bit meh, wouldn't stand out for a Norwich or a Bournemouth for me, just another average over hyped English player,
I'm speechless.

Good start to your posting career here mate, 5/10 but room for growth.
 
Feb 22, 2020
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He reminds me of your namesake! If you are happy with the likes of winks and Davies as first choices then expect more of what we have seen in the last year, we are miles off and will continue to be, opinions and all that
 
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For sure, thing is we changed a winning midfield (in the league) for what we witnessed today ... The guy we had been pining for just still doesn't seem like he is going to cut it 8 months into his Spurs career yet we're digging out the uspectacular yet reliable player because he doesn't have any 'magic' moments .... I'd have taken a point today on the back of him being non magic than a loss with the guy we paid 60 mill for ... Opinions and all that.

6/10
 

fortworthspur

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He reminds me of your namesake! If you are happy with the likes of winks and Davies as first choices then expect more of what we have seen in the last year, we are miles off and will continue to be, opinions and all that
you may feel that way but who would you start over him in that spot? Gedson? TN? Skipp? Like it or not, Winks is our most consistent CM in that role.
 

double0

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The thing with Ndombele imo he just needs games we should bite the bullet and just keep him on the pitch game after game. We generally set up tactically to support Aurier since Mourinho came in why not Ndombele?
 

fortworthspur

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The thing with Ndombele imo he just needs games we should bite the bullet and just keep him on the pitch game after game. We generally set up tactically to support Aurier since Mourinho came in why not Ndombele?
I dunno. Like I said, he may well come good but every game is important now. If Dier will help us stop shipping goals Id like to see him next to Wink.
 

double0

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I dunno. Like I said, he may well come good but every game is important now. If Dier will help us stop shipping goals Id like to see him next to Wink.
Nah Dier has a turning circumference of an oil tanker....i actually think he'd be a better CB.
 
Feb 22, 2020
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2 goals and next to zero assists in 4 years and over 130 games for the club is woeful from midfield. But he's not that kind of player I hear you cry! So he's a great defensively? Nope he can't tackle and is weak.

Can anyone give an example of when he has genuinely been man of the match even?

He's a squad player at best and that's about it. If spurs fans are happy with such averageness in probably the most important position on the pitch where games are often won and lost in big games then don't moan about poor performances and a poor season. The two are undoubtedly linked
 

chrissivad

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The thing with Ndombele imo he just needs games we should bite the bullet and just keep him on the pitch game after game. We generally set up tactically to support Aurier since Mourinho came in why not Ndombele?

As long as he is fit I agree.

Winks isn't a DM, or a holding cm for me. We can get away with him as the holding player in games we have more of the ball, but we just aren't at the moment.

Get Ndombele or Lo Celso sitting in beside him.

Because he isn't going to be able to cover the cm all by himself. He just isn't good enough (none of our cm's are)
 

fishhhandaricecake

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I don't think winks is good enough and is one of the main reasons we have struggled for over a year now. We've gone from peak wanyama and Dembele to winks who offers nothing imo. Not strong enough to provide a shield for the defense and is poor in the tackle, and hasn't got the ability or the vision to add anything in the final third. 2 goals in 4 years with next to zero assists from midfield is pathetic whatever way you look at it. Upgrade desperately needed
Unfortunately this is spot on.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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2 goals and next to zero assists in 4 years and over 130 games for the club is woeful from midfield. But he's not that kind of player I hear you cry! So he's a great defensively? Nope he can't tackle and is weak.

Can anyone give an example of when he has genuinely been man of the match even?

He's a squad player at best and that's about it. If spurs fans are happy with such averageness in probably the most important position on the pitch where games are often won and lost in big games then don't moan about poor performances and a poor season. The two are undoubtedly linked
Exactly, compare him to say a neves or moutiniho who utterly dominate games for wolves, he’s a mid table player at best. Love the guy but we had demebele and before that modric, winks isn’t fit to lace either of their boots.
 

Joely

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He reminds me of your namesake! If you are happy with the likes of winks and Davies as first choices then expect more of what we have seen in the last year, we are miles off and will continue to be, opinions and all that

Have to agree. Likes of WInks and Davies are triers and do give 100% and for that reason not so much of a problem having them as squad players however neither are good enough to be first team regulars.

Winks doesn't excel in any particular area. So limited in both an attacking and defensive capacity but more importantly, offers nothing in terms of control and the ability to dictate play in the midfield. We have one two many squad players who are have become first team choices and it is hurting us.
 
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