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Harry Winks - Leicester City

0-Tibsy-0

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So, from that Sunday Supplement video posted earlier we have evidence that his peers at the highest level who play with and against him talk about how good he is, and we know that three world class managers in Pochettino, Pep, and Jose, two of them among the greatest ever, have either spoken about how highly they rate him or have shown it. Yet we still have a few utter morons on here and on Twitter who don't rate him.

It's the same as it's always been. If you don't rate Harry Winks, the problem is not with Winks, it's with your understanding of the game. Instead of being quick to post about how he's not good enough, how about you step back, have some self-awareness, and consider why it is that people who have forgotten more about football than you will ever know think he's so good because if you actually understand football, you rate Harry Winks.

Which video is that?

Not been able to locate it..
 

spids

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We should be celebrating Winks as a home grown international. Really honest kid who always gives 100% and is technically very good. He’s at his best when the game goes up a notch and he responds. Then he becomes dynamic, and when he turns and wriggles away from opponents and accelerated deep into their half he lifts the whole team. I have been quite critical of him in the last 12 months, but on reflection I should probably be more critical of Poch and Jose. Winks needs the right partner, and it isn’t Dier or Sissoko! When he sits and has to be a holding player he is far from effective, often getting sucked in and his passing from very deep is not as progressive as it was when he first broke into the team (also due to a lack of movement in front of him!). He needs to play in a 3 (alongside Lo Celso and Gedson would be good) where he can help dominate the middle third.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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The last few games he's impressed me more than he has for a while. Wether this is accurate or not I don't know but I feel he's picking up the ball and driving forward with it more often than before and generally trying to be more dynamic and have a much more positive affect on the team. Both in that regard and in the positive intent of his forward passing. Well done and three thumbs up from me.
 

Typical Spurs

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The last few games he's impressed me more than he has for a while. Wether this is accurate or not I don't know but I feel he's picking up the ball and driving forward with it more often than before and generally trying to be more dynamic and have a much more positive affect on the team. Both in that regard and in the positive intent of his forward passing. Well done and three thumbs up from me.

Totally agree. He's been a bit more of a driving midfielder with the ball recently.
 

McFlash

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It's funny that Tanganga is getting lorded as the second coming of King, after about four games and yet people still don't see what Winks brings to the game.
Yes, Japhet has looked good but Winks has been consistent for a good couple of years now. Plus, it appears that he's in the process of taking that next step up in quality that we were hoping for.
 

southlondonyiddo

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It's funny that Tanganga is getting lorded as the second coming of King, after about four games and yet people still don't see what Winks brings to the game.
Yes, Japhet has looked good but Winks has been consistent for a good couple of years now. Plus, it appears that he's in the process of taking that next step up in quality that we were hoping for.

I’m a big HW fan and a couple of years ago just before another injury, many of us thought he was just about to catapult himself into a world class midfield player that would be first choice in the england team for a decade

Sadly that didn’t happen and he hasn’t progressed as we’d have liked. Personally I think it has a lot to do with all his injuries and the chronic injury (ankle!?) that Poch talked about a while ago

For me (as a big fan) he’s had some very very poor and disappointing games of late but has been excellent in the last 2

Whether this is due to sometimes feeling really fit and well and other times playing with pain, I don’t know but imo quite a lot of the time he seems to play within himself and seems to be holding back, fearing another injury setback

Fingers crossed he can continue to manage his Injury issues but I fear we'll never quite see the HW we hoped we would
 

allatsea

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The last few games he's impressed me more than he has for a while. Wether this is accurate or not I don't know but I feel he's picking up the ball and driving forward with it more often than before and generally trying to be more dynamic and have a much more positive affect on the team. Both in that regard and in the positive intent of his forward passing. Well done and three thumbs up from me.
Poch stunted his progress IMO by making hold back and play as a pure DM. Jose has released him from that and allowed him to express himself more and we are therefore seeing a more creative Winks.
 

dtxspurs

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The last few games he's impressed me more than he has for a while. Wether this is accurate or not I don't know but I feel he's picking up the ball and driving forward with it more often than before and generally trying to be more dynamic and have a much more positive affect on the team. Both in that regard and in the positive intent of his forward passing. Well done and three thumbs up from me.
Agreed. People acting like this is how he’s been playing all season are lying to themselves. Positive signs for sure, but let’s wait and see before crowning him again.
 

cliff jones

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We should be celebrating Winks as a home grown international. Really honest kid who always gives 100% and is technically very good. He’s at his best when the game goes up a notch and he responds. Then he becomes dynamic, and when he turns and wriggles away from opponents and accelerated deep into their half he lifts the whole team. I have been quite critical of him in the last 12 months, but on reflection I should probably be more critical of Poch and Jose. Winks needs the right partner, and it isn’t Dier or Sissoko! When he sits and has to be a holding player he is far from effective, often getting sucked in and his passing from very deep is not as progressive as it was when he first broke into the team (also due to a lack of movement in front of him!). He needs to play in a 3 (alongside Lo Celso and Gedson would be good) where he can help dominate the middle third.

he does some good things and some bad things. He rarely gets a foot in, or a block when there’s an opponent looking to shoot on the edge of the box. look at his role in many of the goals we concede- like Firminos recently?

I could forgive him that if he made more of the ball once he has got away but he’ll accelerate then pass sideways or backwards.

he has to improve in both aspects if he’s to fulfil his potential and be first choice after the summer.

love his modesty and regard for the badge
 

southlondonyiddo

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Poch stunted his progress IMO by making hold back and play as a pure DM. Jose has released him from that and allowed him to express himself more and we are therefore seeing a more creative Winks.

To think Poch was holding back a footballer and Jose has released the shackles

The worlds been turned upside down!!
 

Adskispur

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What really holds Harry Winks back, I think, is a technical deficiency - he doesn't have a clean strike of a football. His short-passing game is good but he can't switch play quickly enough. Without a cross-field pass in his locker, he will never rise to being a top central midfield (i.e. best 5 in the league). He's still a decent player with a great attitude and he's stepped up over the last couple of games.
 

longtimespur

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What really holds Harry Winks back, I think, is a technical deficiency - he doesn't have a clean strike of a football. His short-passing game is good but he can't switch play quickly enough. Without a cross-field pass in his locker, he will never rise to being a top central midfield (i.e. best 5 in the league). He's still a decent player with a great attitude and he's stepped up over the last couple of games.
Hi and welcome to this madhouse. Do you watch the Saints replay? I won’t disagree he doesn’t do it regularly but I remember one really good pass with his left foot right across from right wing to left. It helped open up their defence. Not sure but think it was in a build up to one of our goals.
 

punkisback

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What really holds Harry Winks back, I think, is a technical deficiency - he doesn't have a clean strike of a football. His short-passing game is good but he can't switch play quickly enough. Without a cross-field pass in his locker, he will never rise to being a top central midfield (i.e. best 5 in the league). He's still a decent player with a great attitude and he's stepped up over the last couple of games.
I agree, we lack a crossfield passer in the team, but i think winks has good range. He needs to trust himself more.
 

double0

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@Primativ.
We are all Tottenham supporters.

It's pretty obvious your dislike of the way Harry Winks plays.

I'm pretty sure it's not a personal hatred.

Instead of getting into heated debates have a fair and open mind (to change) wait this season out.... If you can bear it just watch Winks with a different prospective.

If you can be honest and believe his capable say so.
If your views haven't changed say so.






Just a fellows advise
 

Gassin's finest

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What really holds Harry Winks back, I think, is a technical deficiency - he doesn't have a clean strike of a football. His short-passing game is good but he can't switch play quickly enough. Without a cross-field pass in his locker, he will never rise to being a top central midfield (i.e. best 5 in the league). He's still a decent player with a great attitude and he's stepped up over the last couple of games.
I mean... this is actually one of his greatest strengths. That he is a technical player.

 
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