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danielneeds

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To be fair he doesn't look or sound very convinced, but it's early days. Hopefully Kane can be convinced he can fulfill his ambitions here under Mourinho.
I wouldn’t read too much into it. He was trying to be very respectful to Poch in everything he was saying in my opinion.
 

Primativ

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I wouldn’t read too much into it. He was trying to be very respectful to Poch in everything he was saying in my opinion.



Yeah I thought that too but I am a little worried I must say. Then again, Levy has acted and we have Mourinho, hopefully we are up there challenging again soon.
 

spursfan77

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To be fair he doesn't look or sound very convinced, but it's early days. Hopefully Kane can be convinced he can fulfill his ambitions here under Mourinho.

No he doesn’t seem entirely confident. This season and next and that will be it I think. Can’t blame him either if he goes then. Will be gutted if he leaves though. Will be the biggest player to move away ever.
 

winster

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Anyone else see that when he appears on that BT no filter video it says Harry Kane and underneath it says Tottenham Hotspur Captain???
 

Mr Pink

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To be fair he doesn't look or sound very convinced, but it's early days. Hopefully Kane can be convinced he can fulfill his ambitions here under Mourinho.

Thought he sounded totally normal and believable in what he was saying.

Expect Mourinho will have a big impact once he and the squad settle fully with one another.
 

Mr Pink

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No he doesn’t seem entirely confident. This season and next and that will be it I think. Can’t blame him either if he goes then. Will be gutted if he leaves though. Will be the biggest player to move away ever.

I think if we've won something by the end of next season that will be the first of many and he'll stay.
 

rossdapep

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To be fair he doesn't look or sound very convinced, but it's early days. Hopefully Kane can be convinced he can fulfill his ambitions here under Mourinho.
I see absolutely nothing in that to suggest he's 'not convinced'

He's hardly gunna be screaming from the rooftops, due to 1. Out of respect for Poch 2. it being an interview (which is generally something players hate). Besides Kane is generally quite monotonous at the most exciting of times, so I really would read nothing into this.

I bet inside he's desperate to start playing for Mourinho tomorrow.
 

wrd

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I see absolutely nothing in that to suggest he's 'not convinced'

He's hardly gunna be screaming from the rooftops, due to 1. Out of respect for Poch 2. it being an interview (which is generally something players hate). Besides Kane is generally quite monotonous at the most exciting of times, so I really would read nothing into this.

I bet inside he's desperate to start playing for Mourinho tomorrow.

He best be.. 18/1 for a hattrick tomorrow
 

Misfit

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Ahh we're still doing the body language thing I see :D
Basically it's a disaster mate. He'd much rather carry on the relegation form and play championship footy with his best mate Poch. He'd be here forever under those circs but now, guaranteed he goes in January.
 

1966

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With you 100%.
Lost both my parents to a drunk driver not so long ago...
Lost respect for Lloris after his DD and wanted him out of the club from that moment...
Still very bitter about things I suppose..
Shit, mate. I'm so sorry. I don't know exactly how you feel but I have a vague idea after my own experience and it's horrible.

I'm just some random guy on the internet as far as you're concerned and I'm sure you already have plenty of people around you for support, but on the off chance you ever do need someone to talk to, I'd be there for you.

ETA: I worded my original post on the matter diplomatically, considering what I've experienced personally, because I wanted to emphasise that I do understand the carefree "it'll never happen to me" attitude that a lot of people have and to make a sympathetic reminder that it's wrong (hopefully prompting anyone reading who does do that sort of thing to reconsider). People often don't conceptualise drink-driving in a sensible way and I try to gently prod them in that direction. For example, would you play at a roulette table where most of the numbers win you nothing but a lack of harm and the rest cause injury or worse to yourself or others?

On a reflexive emotional level, like you, I was extremely disappointed in and angry with Lloris when I found out. I was disappointed the club didn't at the very least strip his captaincy. You don't need to have had a horrendous firsthand experience with drink-driving to empathise with that view, I think.
 
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1966

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I wouldn’t read too much into it. He was trying to be very respectful to Poch in everything he was saying in my opinion.
100%.

Kane has not looked happy playing for Spurs this season. And we have a frame of reference for this, which is Kane playing for England, where he looks like he's loving football and life in general.

He's always cut a solemn figure in the media with his monotone voice and serious face. Even carrying a hat-trick ball, he answers the media in a pretty similar way.

He's only smiling and cracking jokes if he has a teammate beside him for, say, a MOTM award (giving or receiving). I think he's the kind of guy, having probably been mocked at various stages of his earlier life for his speech impediment and unusual appearance, who takes a while to come out of his shell around someone.

Professionally, I believe he'll be over the moon with this appointment. But there will be that personal toll. Regardless of how things ended between Kane and Poch - and I do find it quite easy to believe that Kane was unhappy with Poch as a boss towards the end - they probably did and do love each other.

Poch leaving will have hit Kane emotionally and the interview is as much a funeral for Poch as a baptism for Jose. Kane was suitably respectful, sombre even, whether that was an affectation (which I doubt because Kane isn't the smartest guy off the pitch) or genuine (which seems more likely).

As a neuroscientist who has studied psychology and the psychology of body language in detail, I have to side with the people who caution against trying to analyse body language in depth and placing too much emphasis on that analysis. Unlike how it's portrayed in some of the police procedurals on TV, reading body language is a very imprecise "science". People who can seemingly read minds based on body language just don't exist outside of The Mentalist etc. and the world of fiction.

There is no universal translation between one action and one meaning anywhere. Another fundamental thing most people miss before they start trying their amateur analyses is that each person can only be compared to their own baseline. It's this "case study" sample size conundrum that makes body language research and practice so distant from the hard sciences: you either try to extrapolate from multiple baselines and lose internal validity or apply the specific baseline of that one person and lose external validity ("validity" here might be better expressed as reproducibility actually).

The most basic amateur attempt at analysing that video might contain something along the lines of "look at the way he shakes his head slightly while answering affirmatively: that means he's contradicting himself". I mean, sure, as an extremely general heuristic that may warrant further investigation some of the time, it's not wrong, but without context, it's also pretty much worthless.

I don't claim to be an expert in doing this shit for real either, but I know just enough to understand that I don't really know anything and nor do most people. Elite police investigators and other people who actually use these skills in a serious way rely on reproducible responses compared to a controlled baseline model - taking the art as close to science as possible - and even then they only use the impressions they get as rough guidelines. Regardless of how high your emotional intelligence may be or how much training in a true professional setting you might have, the best you'll ever get is rough guidelines.

I've already given my impressions of the situation at the beginning of the post -- not necessarily based on much body language, mind you. The second half of my post is the real moral: don't waste your time trying to extract significant information out of the body language of someone you don't know.
 
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1966

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He best be.. 18/1 for a hattrick tomorrow
18/1? Fuck it. I'll take that.

In 2017, you'd have actually made a profit at the end of the year if you bet on him to score a hat-trick before every single game (even taking the silly bets like hattys against Man City at the Etihad)! That's madness.
 

wrd

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Feel like our young Anakin is at about Episode 3 on his journey to becoming the biggest and baddest shithouser in the galaxy
 

BringBack_leGin

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Covered more distance than any other player, constantly put his body on the line, tactical fouls and got angry. I’m not saying he did it for Mourinho, he did it because it’s his natural game. He didn’t do it for Pochettino though, not for a long time.
 

LukaKranjcar

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He was everywhere today. Full on shithousing, tactical fouls, tracking back, putting his head in and of course a goal too. Captain Kane is fully on board the Jose train and we all should be too.
 

fishhhandaricecake

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He was everywhere today. Full on shithousing, tactical fouls, tracking back, putting his head in and of course a goal too. Captain Kane is fully on board the Jose train and we all should be too.
dont Get me wrong I know kane has Poch to thank for his debut etc but he will LOVE playing under a winner like Jose.
 
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