Harry Kane

[razzmaster]

We are no longer the Harry Kane team because he can no longer carry us on his own.

Can you imagine how good he would look playing in the Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd teams right now.

We don't play with a high press, a high line, high intensity or with any real attacking intent, balance or cohesion.

Our most creative outlet is Serge Aurier. Yes Serge Aurier, let that just sink in for a moment.

Give Harry service and he will score. Build an attacking team that forces defences into errors and plays with a real desire and Harry will score 30+ goals a season again.

Harry is not the problem and is the last player we should want to sell.

 

[Locotoro]

I love Harry but I do agree with @mpickard2087. Kane is not showing any better than the rest of the squad currently.

If he was working his arse of like he used to both defensively and offensively i'd keep him. But he's not the same anymore.

Right now I would take the money but it would be under certain conditions which won't happen.

• Sell Kane & others
• Sack Mourinho
• Appoint Naglesmann or some other (which won't come)
• Hire a DOF (Campos)
• Begin the rebuild
• Stand by the rebuild and give the new ones time

You're generally a good poster so I'll assume this is a knee jerk reaction but let me understand this??

1. You want to sell our leading scorer for the past 5 seasons,
2. Sack a highly successful manager who's won trophies at every club he's managed only 20 or so games into his rebuild
3. Hire another manager who hasn't actually won anything
4. hire a DOF who specifically wanted to work with the aforementioned sacked manager
5 start the rebuild that was supposed to be starting with a sacked manager
6. do the opposite of what you've suggested by giving the new manager more time and money when we don't do that with a more successful manager.

Is this the current thinking?

 

[mattdefoe]

Kane looks very heavy . He used to shoot on site now he’s a ghost

 

[Nebby]

We are no longer the Harry Kane team because he can no longer carry us on his own.

Can you imagine how good he would look playing in the Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd teams right now.

We don't play with a high press, a high line, high intensity or with any real attacking intent, balance or cohesion.

Our most creative outlet is Serge Aurier. Yes Serge Aurier, let that just sink in for a moment.

Give Harry service and he will score. Build an attacking team that forces defences into errors and plays with a real desire and Harry will score 30+ goals a season again.

Harry is not the problem and is the last player we should want to sell.

Everything you need to know about the lack of quality at Spurs right now: Other than Kane and Son, who else would Liverpool or City look to take off our hands?

 

[Gareth88]

I think we get one more season with him then he leaves

 

[Nebby]

You're generally a good poster so I'll assume this is a knee jerk reaction but let me understand this??

1. You want to sell our leading scorer for the past 5 seasons,
2. Sack a highly successful manager who's won trophies at every club he's managed only 20 or so games into his rebuild
3. Hire another manager who hasn't actually won anything
4. hire a DOF who specifically wanted to work with the aforementioned sacked manager
5 start the rebuild that was supposed to be starting with a sacked manager
6. do the opposite of what you've suggested by giving the new manager more time and money when we don't do that with a more successful manager.

Is this the current thinking?

Conventional thinking would suggest it's the only way to fund the rebuild that's needed (eg Bale). But in this financial climate, I wonder how much we would get for him. Probably not enough. And even then, we can only afford second / third tier quality, so nothing's likely to change.

The most likely outcome: Kane stays and we revert to being an occasional contender for a top four finish, and win bugger all for another decade.

We are miles behind Liverpool and City, while United and Chelsea look like we did a few years ago. The chasing pack will be us, Arsenal, Leicester and one or two others, and we are by no means the best of the chasing bunch.

 

[he is you know!]

I think we get one more season with him then he leaves

He can only leave if someone is willing to pay what we want, what he wants and he wants to go there.

The issue is how many non domestic clubs will be in that position.

 

[SpartanSpur]

He looked a lot more lively against Sheff Utd than he did in the last two games.

Tiredness or just unhappiness? Not sure.

Love the guy and sympathise with him over the lack of service, but he can do better than the last two games.

Come back strong next season, score a load of goals and have a strong Euros. Then if things are still bleak here I think he'd be able to leave with everyone's blessing.

 

[dontcallme]

To rebuild we need to send a quantity of players over quality.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

You're generally a good poster so I'll assume this is a knee jerk reaction but let me understand this??

1. You want to sell our leading scorer for the past 5 seasons,
2. Sack a highly successful manager who's won trophies at every club he's managed only 20 or so games into his rebuild
3. Hire another manager who hasn't actually won anything
4. hire a DOF who specifically wanted to work with the aforementioned sacked manager
5 start the rebuild that was supposed to be starting with a sacked manager
6. do the opposite of what you've suggested by giving the new manager more time and money when we don't do that with a more successful manager.

Is this the current thinking?

1. I don't, but I'm caring less and less if Kane were to leave with the kind of performances he's putting in at the moment
1.2 Plus he's the person that brings us the most cash for a rebuild
2. Jose needs to get the sack. He was never a good fit for us.
3. I don't trust Jose or Levy for that matter with a rebuild
4. Does Campos only want to work with Mourinho? I don't recall. Regardless we need a DOF to take care of the transfers, we have for a long time
5. Yeah but Jose and Levy thought we had the third best squad in the league and I wasn't Poch - so yeah that was a terrible call
6. Jose has already had what, 7-8 months? What exactly is better? Because I don't see much other than our defense, which you would expect

 

[dontcallme]

At the moment Kane is the only real quality we have as far as position is concerned.

Our keeper, defence and midfield are not top quality.

Midfield could be with a few tweaks.

 

[Spurvert]

Think I'd judge him more if he didn't want to leave at this point.

Do I think he's the player he was a few seasons ago? No.

Can he get back to that? Maybe.

We will take the money at some point. He will agitate to move if he isn't already. It will be a similar reinvestment strategy to Bale.

 

[Gareth88]

He can only leave if someone is willing to pay what we want, what he wants and he wants to go there.

The issue is how many non domestic clubs will be in that position.

If our football continues like this next season, I don't think we will be in much of a bargaining position when we are sitting below mid-table.

 

[Wig]

We are no longer the Harry Kane team because he can no longer carry us on his own.

Can you imagine how good he would look playing in the Liverpool, Man City and Man Utd teams right now.

We don't play with a high press, a high line, high intensity or with any real attacking intent, balance or cohesion.

Our most creative outlet is Serge Aurier. Yes Serge Aurier, let that just sink in for a moment.

Give Harry service and he will score. Build an attacking team that forces defences into errors and plays with a real desire and Harry will score 30+ goals a season again.

Harry is not the problem and is the last player we should want to sell.

The amount of crosses Aurier put in yesterday played between the defending line and the keeper, and yet I never see Kane getting in front of/behind the defenders and converting. Those sort of deliveries are a nightmare for defenders who are also scared of scoring an own goal, and they should be golden opportunities for Kane to tap-in, however it's always someone like Lamela who shows the commitment to get closest to getting on the end of them.

People moaning about the lack of service Kane is getting, but sadly due to his reduced mobility he's not making enough space for himself to receive the ball, and when he receives the ball he's not quick enough at moving the ball out of his feet to take a shot, and he's often not fast enough to outpace the defenders to run onto a through-ball. So what service are you expecting him to get exactly? Not every team is lucky enough to have De Bruyne pinging inch-perfect passes game after game.

Also unless he's dropping deep to receive the ball and then passes, when he's in the final third he's only focused on getting the shot away himself. For someone in his position, flanked by the likes of Son, Bergwijn and Moura, to only have 2 assists (PL and CL) is terrible. Compare that to other top teams' leading men: Firmino (11 assists), Vardy (6), Aguero (4), Abraham (4). Kane isn't exactly servicing his team-mates either.

Don't get me wrong here - I genuinely value Kane enormously but I think he is equally to blame with the rest of the team for underpar performances. I don't think he's in a position to look down at everyone else and think he deserves better.

 

[he is you know!]

If our football continues like this next season, I don't think we will be in much of a bargaining position when we are sitting below mid-table.

Why is Zaha still at Palace then?

 

[Gareth88]

Why is Zaha still at Palace then?

Good point

 

[morris25]

Is he anygood anymore. Yes he can finish. But he used to run with the ball, take players on. Now he's so slow he camt do anything.
He really needs to be a no10 with a pacy striker in front of him. He doesn't have the pace to be a no9.
Unless someone puts the ball on his foot or head he does nothing. It's only spurs fans that still rate him

 

[Wig]

At the moment Kane is the only real quality we have as far as position is concerned.

Our keeper, defence and midfield are not top quality.

Midfield could be with a few tweaks.

In the 5 games since the restart we have had 3 clean sheets, and the first game against United the only goal they scored was from a debatable penalty (Dier's perceived foul on Pogba). I appreciate this is a small sample of games, but from this I would say our keeper and defence having been playing at a high quality, whereas from midfield to upfront we have sucked. In the same 5 games we have mustered a total of just 11 shots on target, including against relegation battlers West Ham and Bournemouth, and Kane has played every single minute of those games.

Whilst I agree we need to continue refreshing the squad to add quality, I don't think we should be putting Kane on a pedestal as our only top quality player when he too needs to up his game and have some competition for his place.

 

[dontcallme]

In the 5 games since the restart we have had 3 clean sheets, and the first game against United the only goal they scored was from a debatable penalty (Dier's perceived foul on Pogba). I appreciate this is a small sample of games, but from this I would say our keeper and defence having been playing at a high quality, whereas from midfield to upfront we have sucked. In the same 5 games we have mustered a total of just 11 shots on target, including against relegation battlers West Ham and Bournemouth, and Kane has played every single minute of those games.

Whilst I agree we need to continue refreshing the squad to add quality, I don't think we should be putting Kane on a pedestal as our only top quality player when he too needs to up his game and have some competition for his place.

No idea how that is a response to my post.

 

[Wig]

No idea how that is a response to my post.

Really? Your post claimed that "Kane is the only real quality we have as far as position is concerned". My response directly countered that assertion in claiming that our keeper and defence have shown real quality since the restart, unlike Kane. Just my opinion of course, but I hope that clarifies how my post was in response to yours.