Player Watch Player Watch: Guglielmo Vicario

[UncleBuck]

I would 100% agree with this if he had one or two players in front of him, maybe even three. But six? There's not a goalkeeper in the world who could have gotten to that ball. Not without murdering at least half of them.

Totally agree with the rest.

You ever watched mean machine when statham was in goal?!
I used to do it all the time when I played in goal, I’m only 5’10” but I was as gobby as hell and didn’t care who was in front of me, I was getting something on that ball if I knew I could.
Six yd box I owned it and I didn’t care who got in my way, I’ve knocked oppo out coming out for corners and also had some proper knocks myself but it’s about being brave and owning your area.
All it will take is for Vic to have a couple of games where he is brave, comes for a few and deals with it and then the oppo will stop targeting him.

 

[N'Obody]

You ever watched mean machine when statham was in goal?!
I used to do it all the time when I played in goal, I’m only 5’10” but I was as gobby as hell and didn’t care who was in front of me, I was getting something on that ball if I knew I could.
Six yd box I owned it and I didn’t care who got in my way, I’ve knocked oppo out coming out for corners and also had some proper knocks myself but it’s about being brave and owning your area.
All it will take is for Vic to have a couple of games where he is brave, comes for a few and deals with it and then the oppo will stop targeting him.

This. He needs balls of steel which he clearly lacks. He's way too emotional and flappy and it's quite unsettling to watch. A brave keeper comes flying out and wipes everyone else out if he has to, to get the ball. That's what you call brave and commanding. A keeper who is afraid to do that, should really reconsider his position.

 

[southlondonyiddo]

Has no control or domination of his penalty box - we’ve known it for a good while now and it won’t change

Shame because he’s very decent other than that (incredibly important part of the role!)

 

[rossdapep]

David De Gea was extremely weak in the air to begin with.

Got much better.

That coukd be down to the fact the players he played with put immense pressure on him to deal with it by shouting at him and telling him it wasn't good enough.

 

[spurmin]

Already said this to a different poster, but there are literally six players between Vicario and Gabriel. There's no chance in the world he could even get close.

I thought that at the time. As a goal keeper you’re damned if you do and damned if you don’t.
If he had tried to get to it and failed everyone would be questioning that decision.

 

[makeveli]

he needs to be coming for that header and punching it out that what romero was expecting , not commanding enough for me.

 

[Shanks]

If he started in a proper position to deal with the pressure, he wouldn't need to go through 6 players, that's thr point I'm trying to make.

But he doesn't display presence so short movements in front him makes him go backwards, every time.

I've posted about it in this thread loads, even showing pictures of what he should be doing, and he has started going exactly that, but he needs to stand his ground more now.

We are nervy as fuck when we set up for s corner, from everyone, almost looked panicked, too panicked, which has to start with the keeper.

 

[DannyNZ]

he needs to be coming for that header and punching it out that what romero was expecting , not commanding enough for me.

Agree he should be commanding that space but Romero lost Gabriel rather than Romero waiting for Vicario.

 

[RuskyM]

Serious questions have to be asked, because for all of his qualities at shot-stopping it's been about nine months since that Man City game and every corner is still a heart attack. Unless this improves I would strongly consider bringing in another GK in January, because it's every week and it is absolutely killing us.

 

[Albertbarich]

I don’t see how anyone can observe him at corners and free kicks and have any faith.

He flaps his arms, panics , gets stuck behind loads of players and then if by some chance it goes out of play he does this little run to say he’s in control when he blatantly isn’t.

There is a reason that we’re being targeted and it’s not going to stop until he calms down and controls the space in front of him. For all the talk of set piece coaches I wonder how much difference a new keeper coach would make or even a new keeper because it’s been going on for months now and it’s costing us.

 

[bigfrooj]

He's not for me, sorry to say. Just makes me very nervous. Sorry.

Loved it yesterday when I thought he was about to lose it completely and lamp that arsenal player, I must say. Most exciting part of the match.

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

Our opposition will all sit back in a low block and look to break on the counter and maximize set plays. Simple but effective

 

[Shanks]

Agree he should be commanding that space but Romero lost Gabriel rather than Romero waiting for Vicario.

And I think there have been 3 goals this season already where romero has done thr same, lost his man, switched off etc.

No-one is denying that and it's being discussed in his thread, too many times this season already it's happened, tbh lucky he has VDV to cover tbh.

I do feel for vicario, badly in all honesty, I've watched back a few of rhr corners, even last season, we basically set up our defence to shield vicario, almost like a triangle of players to protect him, it's agonisingly easy to break through that sort of set up, as you need a dominant keeper to maintain the middle, only need to look at raya at thr opposite end yesterday, and he isn't the strongest on a cross either, looked miles better than vicario.

 

[T-Bone]

Get rid of him and go get Kelleher from Liverpool. Much better keeper and would improve us no end.

 

[Shanks]

Get rid of him and go get Kelleher from Liverpool. Much better keeper and would improve us no end.

Actually a good shout, he is superb

 

[GutBucket]

GK should be like a paladin in d&d and give aura of confidence to everyone around him, he is opposite when it comes to corners. Not sure if he was the one at fault for the goal or not, but every corner and indirect FK is a worry (not just because of him to be fair). He doesn't command the area that should be his. He will have a decent career with his shot stopping ability, but needs to work on this part to become elite or at least not a liability.

I still have faith in him, other than 2 or 3 players everyone looks shit.

 

[Styopa]

He gives off some Gomes vibes now. While he's not as unpredictable as Gomes, it seems like he struggles to command his box effectively. Gomes had a lot of talent, but I recall how much more solid and calm we felt defensively when Friedel replaced him.

Given our high-risk style of play, putting in a goalkeeper who struggles with set pieces feels like throwing petrol onto the fire.

 

[walton]

He gives off some Gomes vibes now. While he's not as unpredictable as Gomes, it seems like he struggles to command his box effectively. Gomes had a lot of talent, but I recall how much more solid and calm we felt defensively when Friedel replaced him.

Given our high-risk style of play, putting in a goalkeeper who struggles with set pieces feels like throwing petrol onto the fire.

Yeah, i was thinking we were entering Gomes territory here, and like Gomes his growing reputation for flappy-ness and set piece incompetence will be incredibly difficult to turn around. If/until he does, we'll need to put in far better mitigation for this incompetence than we currently are doing...

 

[muppetman]

Fucking hell, according to the various player threads all we need to do is replace:
Vicario
Romero
Maddison
Bentancur
Sonny
Johnson
Davies
Spence
Forster
Sarr
and Werner.

Off you pop Lange. . .

 

[Dazzazzad]

Yeah, i was thinking we were entering Gomes territory here, and like Gomes his growing reputation for flappy-ness and set piece incompetence will be incredibly difficult to turn around. If/until he does, we'll need to put in far better mitigation for this incompetence than we currently are doing...

Crumbs, do you remember gomes? He'd find ways to throw soft shots at his chest into the goal. He's not even Lloris (the latter years) level of gaffes yet.