Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[Japhet]

Well he's the better player right now and we need to win, and as Mou said GLC needs time to adapt to the PL.

How's he going to adapt to it if he doesn't play in it? It's like adapting to altitude by staying at sea level.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

These are the cold, hard facts unfortunately. I'd like to see them both in the same team but if we're being realistic, Eriksen is ahead of Lo Celso in the pecking order.

Based on what? Eriksen is total shit now. He has been for months because he doesn't want to be here. He walks around the pitch coasting, where as Lo Celso will fight and work his ass off.

Lo Celso has a lot of quality he just needs a bloody run of games to show it, rather than little cameos where he's under ridiculous pressure to perform miracles to prove he should play.

 

[dontcallme]

why 4-3-3?

Felt we should have swarmed the midfield.

Son, Alli and Kane is a dangerous combination.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

How's he going to adapt to it if he doesn't play in it? It's like adapting to altitude by staying at sea level.

He will play in lesser important games i reckon. Starting with Bayern away

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

What do you disagree with WhiteDane? You don't think Eriksen has been total shit for months now?

 

[Spurs_Bear]

Based on what? Eriksen is total shit now. He has been for months because he doesn't want to be here. He walks around the pitch coasting, where as Lo Celso will fight and work his ass off.

Lo Celso has a lot of quality he just needs a bloody run of games to show it, rather than little cameos where he's under ridiculous pressure to perform miracles to prove he should play.

It pains me to say it but if it wasn't for Eriksen then we didn't turn that game around against Olympiakos, we also looked (slightly) better against United when he came on. To say he is "total shit now" is just nonsense. I don't want him to play, but I see why he is.

And purely speculating about what Lo Celso will or will not do is unhelpful, we haven't seen it yet and he'll need to bide his time before he shows it.

Check my team in the "Team v Burnley" thread, you'll see I'm no fan of Eriksen. Or Moura. But that's a different subject.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

I have always been a huge fan of Eriksen and I actually defended him at many times in 2019 in particular.

But I can't defend him anymore. It's blindingly obvious he doesn't want to be here anymore and he coasts around the pitch. This isn't the same Eriksen I used to rave about. It's a poor, inferior version who doesn't work for the team and isn't invested in our success.

I also know a lot more about Lo Celso than many because I've watched him play outside of his time at Spurs and I know what he can do if he is just given a run of games. It's incredibly frustrating to see the club giving game time to someone who doesn't want to be here ahead of someone who could be a short, medium and long term success for us.

 

[nailsy]

I'd say that it's widely acknowledged that the "loan deal" was simply an arrangement that suited Betis better. Something to do with a sell on clause from PSG.

Yep, Betis don't have to give PSG any of the money they receive from a loan fee, but they have to pay them a percentage of the transfer fee.

If this guy doesn't a chance after watching Sissoko Winks and Moura put in sub par performances Mourhino won't be here that long.

I doubt we can afford to sack José. Anyway he'll get a chance in the next month, we just need to be patient.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

I have always been a huge fan of Eriksen and I actually defended him at many times in 2019 in particular.

But I can't defend him anymore. It's blindingly obvious he doesn't want to be here anymore and he coasts around the pitch. This isn't the same Eriksen I used to rave about. It's a poor, inferior version who doesn't work for the team and isn't invested in our success.

I also know a lot more about Lo Celso than many because I've watched him play outside of his time at Spurs and I know what he can do if he is just given a run of games. It's incredibly frustrating to see the club giving game time to someone who doesn't want to be here ahead of someone who could be a short, medium and long term success for us.

But in Mourinho's eyes he's still better than GLC right now. So deal with it..
And why is that, I might be frustrating, but i reckon Mou and Christian had at talk, hence he said Christian was committed and focused, and he has shown that in his recent came ons. But he's still not starting, so I think Mou is only doing it to try to win right now.

The first thing people whine about in here is the players who doesn't play. GLC is not the answer yet. KWP is not the answer and RB and neither is Skipp at CDM. Good thing we're not the manager, there's just more to it.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

But in Mourinho's eyes he's still better than GLC right now. So deal with it..

The first thing people whine about in here is the players who doesn't play. GLC is not the answer yet. KWP is not the answer and RB and neither is Skipp at CDM. Good thing we're not the manager, there's just more to it.

These managers can be wrong you know, in fact they make glaring errors a lot of the time, just like Mourinho picking Sissoko and Winks CM on Wednesday night when every single Spurs fan knows it always ends in disaster.

In this instance with Eriksen he is wrong, he simply doesn't know it yet, hopefully because he hasn't been at the club for very long.

Lo Celso alone won't fix all of our problems, we have many issues with DM, our defensive tactics as a team etc but he will add quality to our team in terms of ball retention, ability to beat the press, work rate and vision.

We have quite a few things causing our problems and this is merely one of them which could be solved if we just gave Lo Celso some consistent game time.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

These managers can be wrong you know, in fact they make glaring errors a lot of the time, just like Mourinho picking Sissoko and Winks CM on Wednesday night when every single Spurs fan knows it always ends in disaster.

Lo Celso alone won't fix all of our problems, we have many issues with DM, our defensive tactics as a team etc but he will add quality to our team in terms of ball retention, ability to beat the press, work rate and vision.

We have quite a few things causing our problems and this is merely one of them which could be solved if we just gave Lo Celso some consistent game time.

Agree and they are wrong to some extent.
But you think they keep picking them because they're just wrong, or because they have no other viable options (in their eyes)? We have huge CM problems. But you can't just throw in Sessegnon random at LB for example. It's just not how it works. And it's the same with GLC and Ndombele as the double pivot, people scream for it, but It will never work.

I think myself GLC should play instead of Moura right now, but he doesn't speak english, looks uninterested when he's getting subbed on, injury problems, a new country he needs to adapt and so on. His time will come it has only been two-three weeks.

 

[cliff jones]

Well he's the better player right now and we need to win, and as Mou said GLC needs time to adapt to the PL.

I'm tempted to agree if you're citing the national team version, but not the version we've been seeing for Spurs in recent times, unfortunately. If anything, Eriksen looks like he needs to re-adapt to the demands of the Prem!

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Agree and they are wrong to some extent.
But you think they keep picking them because they're just wrong, or because they have no other viable options (in their eyes)?

I think myself GLC should play instead of Moura right now, but he doesn't speak english, looks uninterested when he's getting subbed on, injury problems, a new country he needs to adapt and so on. His time will come it has only been two-three weeks.

Where is this uninterested thing coming from?!! He runs his ass off, tries to get on the ball and gets stuck in. It's bizarre and he is only getting 5 minutes too!

If anyone looks uninterested, it's Eriksen!

 

[Deleted member 27995]

Reckon this is a pig in a poke.

Player doesn't have a position due to the fact the manager that left didn't know his best position.

Incoming manager now has similar problem. Does he fit what Mourinho wants to do? He isn't his player after all.

 

[Deleted member 29446]

Where is this uninterested thing coming from?!! He runs his ass off, tries to get on the ball and gets stuck in. It's bizarre and he is only getting 5 minutes too!

If anyone looks uninterested, it's Eriksen!

He used to. But he doesn't right now if you watched his lastest came ons. And that's probably a reason why he's getting picked.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

He used to. But he doesn't right now if you watched his lastest came ons. And that's probably a reason why he's getting picked.

Other than when he passes to the advertising hoardings, right?

 

[spursfan77]

Both Posh and Mourinho have watched Eriksen and GLC in training and both managers favoured and still favour Eriksen. So how bad must GLC be in training?

You're not going to get two managers as good as these preferring one over he other if one of them is being worse than the other. They just wouldn't do that.

 

[Nick-TopSpursMan]

Both Posh and Mourinho have watched Eriksen and GLC in training and both managers favoured and still favour Eriksen. So how bad must GLC be in training?

You're not going to get two managers as good as these preferring one over he other if one of them is being worse than the other. They just wouldn't do that.

I think you are badly overestimating managers, they make plenty of whopping bad decisions.

In this case though you are wrong anyway mate.

Poch was starting to use Lo Celso, he picked him in both of his last 2 games in charge and you could see he was starting to trust that he was ready. Lo Celso played 86 mins against Red Star and 90 mins against Sheffield Utd.

Mourinho is almost certainly picking Eriksen because he knows him and wanted him at Utd. Mourinho's judgement on players is extremely questionable too, given how he let both De Bruyne and Salah go from Chelsea!!!

 

[Shadydan]

Both Posh and Mourinho have watched Eriksen and GLC in training and both managers favoured and still favour Eriksen. So how bad must GLC be in training?

You're not going to get two managers as good as these preferring one over he other if one of them is being worse than the other. They just wouldn't do that.

It's a results business, they're picking Eriksen because we're in a rut and Eriksen knows how to play with the rest of our players, look at his impact against Olympiakos the other night for example.

 

[BigVic]

Both Posh and Mourinho have watched Eriksen and GLC in training and both managers favoured and still favour Eriksen. So how bad must GLC be in training?

You're not going to get two managers as good as these preferring one over he other if one of them is being worse than the other. They just wouldn't do that.

Posh Spice isn't exactly known for her football knowledge though is she.