Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

DJS

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Yeah of course. They owe him their entire careers. Shame on them for not wanting to stay until they retire, despite never winning anything the whole time.

People don't seem to understand, these players fell for Poch and his philosophy hook line and sinker. Fact is the philosophy somewhat changed it didn't work but Poch persisted week after week. This went on for months FFS!

No matter what your profession if you are being asked to do something you don't agree with, you'll look to work else where.

I know people don't want to believe it but had he listened to his workforce a lot sooner he would never have been in this position.

I love the man for what he's given us, but he's stubborn as hell.

Best for all parties he moves on.
Stubborn as hell sums Poch up well.

I love him too for what he’s done but you could tell he has a real stubborn streak and just refused to tweak things when needed.

He lost the job by his own doing.
 

double0

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Think people need to remember that if the squad have lost faith in the manager there is no coming back from it. No club can clear out the vast majority of the squad so this is the right call.
Its a cop out.
The players within the squad throwing their toys out the pram ain't good enough. Levy Imo should of backed the manager and forfilled his part on getting rid of Vertonghen Alderweireld Wanyama Eriksen Aurier.
 

double0

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Stubborn as hell sums Poch up well.

I love him too for what he’s done but you could tell he has a real stubborn streak and just refused to tweak things when needed.

He lost the job by his own doing.
Well if you think Pochettinho is stubborn what about Pep Mourinho Klopp who never change there philosophies... It a nonsense, the players are cowards and I am sad Pochettinho wasn't backed.
 

Gb160

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Well if you think Pochettinho is stubborn what about Pep Mourinho Klopp who never change there philosophies... It a nonsense, the players are cowards and I am sad Pochettinho wasn't backed.
Why would you change a winning philosophy?
Makes no sense at all.
 

Shadydan

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Its a cop out.
The players within the squad throwing their toys out the pram ain't good enough. Levy Imo should of backed the manager and forfilled his part on getting rid of Vertonghen Alderweireld Wanyama Eriksen Aurier.
This squad was 3rd and 4 points off the top in February, don't get it twisted they're more than good enough.
 

double0

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To finish top four and compete for trophies.

At the moment we are 14th (fourteenth) and gave 3 wins.
Regardless of what I say. Pochettinho is gone and we move on... I gutted can't lie.

Lets see what happens next...I have my suspicions
 

spud

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Poch was far from perfect - but it is absurd that this scenario is blamed on him when every credible voice outside of the club think the fault lies with Levy.
Are there any credible voices outside the club? I'd love to know who they are.

Its a cop out.
The players within the squad throwing their toys out the pram ain't good enough. Levy Imo should of backed the manager and forfilled his part on getting rid of Vertonghen Alderweireld Wanyama Eriksen Aurier.
It's difficult to 'get rid of' players when either there aren't any offers for them or they don't want to go to the clubs that are interested in them. Perhaps you think that they should have just been kicked out with their contracts paid up in full.
 

alexis

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Well if you think Pochettinho is stubborn what about Pep Mourinho Klopp who never change there philosophies... It a nonsense, the players are cowards and I am sad Pochettinho wasn't backed.
All of whom win titles and CL
 

spud

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Well if you think Pochettinho is stubborn what about Pep Mourinho Klopp who never change there philosophies... It a nonsense, the players are cowards and I am sad Pochettinho wasn't backed.
With respect, you may have missed the point; which was that Poch changed the philosophy that everybody had bought into in favour of one that the players found they were incapable of carrying out. He steadfastly refused to listen to their concerns and the rot started to set in.
 

Hakkz

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Its a cop out.
The players within the squad throwing their toys out the pram ain't good enough. Levy Imo should of backed the manager and forfilled his part on getting rid of Vertonghen Alderweireld Wanyama Eriksen Aurier.

You don't even know which players weren't behind the gameplan anymore. You're just assuming it's the widely reported ones but it seems to go much deeper than that.
 

double0

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You don't even know which players weren't behind the gameplan anymore. You're just assuming it's the widely reported ones but it seems to go much deeper than that.
No it doesn't, the names mentioned are the one's behind Poch down fall Eriksen Toby Jan Rose is just pissed with the club not so much with Poch Wanyama Aurier it's well documented the worse thing about it all is that Poch still trusted and pick them (Wanyama a part).

If all said players signed contracts now Poch has left well also it'll be interesting what happens with Lloris he came out a side his time at Spurs is linked to Poch.
 
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