Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[qqq1]

Lo Celso has done nothing in the 4 years since he came to England. I'd rather Villa sign him instead of someone who might actually improve them.

 

[Teegart]

He has never been able to stay fit for us with the rigours of the Premier League, so I wouldn’t expect that to change should he move to Villa.

I’d argue Villa is the exact team to sell him to, as you’d imagine they would be able to pay the highest fee, plus his injury problems would likely continue, weakening villas squad.

 

[Hazelton]

No way Villa consider him if Emery isn't there.

 

[TPdYID]

Posters keep commenting about GLC and his undoubted quality, etc.

But he doesn’t play. He’s rarely fit or available. He’s like an expensive ornament that looks good from far, but in actuality he’s just collecting dust.

“But when fit for Argentina, boo boo bla bla” - I don’t support Argentina, so couldn’t give a rats arse.

 

[Dave1882]

Nah, just look at City, or even Chelsea when the were dominant. They never have a problem with selling what they believe are lesser players to rivals, because it's all about them and what they do.

You Maximise outs to allow you to maximise in's. If you are in a position where you are worried a player you actively want out will strengthen your rivals so much that they will finish above you, then perhaps you shouldn't be selling him at all.

We unfortunately aren’t in same league as them when comes to trading, even if our accounts look healthy. They can afford to let a lesser player go to a rival for good money, as they historically went out and spent record breaking money to improve

I see where you’re coming from. But given our ‘place’ in the pecking order. I don’t agree on dealing with teams who could finish near to/above us

 

[HildoSpur]

We unfortunately aren’t in same league as them when comes to trading, even if our accounts look healthy. They can afford to let a lesser player go to a rival for good money, as they historically went out and spent record breaking money to improve

I see where you’re coming from. But given our ‘place’ in the pecking order. I don’t agree on dealing with teams who could finish near to/above us

Lo Celso has largely been a total disaster of a signing for us - let somebody else deal with him would be my view and the more cash we can get for him the better.

 

[Locotoro]

Who cares? It's about us not about them, and selling to the highest bidder so we can reinvest as much as possible should be all that matters for a player that is not going to feature at all.

If it were only the case we would have sold Kane to Man City the season before and we wouldn't have had so much fan uproar from the idea of Modric going to Chelsea.

I think it's obvious that clubs would prefer not to strengthen direct rivals unless they have absolutely no choice.

I'd take less money and send him to Betis than more money and Villa

 

[HildoSpur]

If it were only the case we would have sold Kane to Man City the season before and we wouldn't have had so much fan uproar from the idea of Modric going to Chelsea.

I think it's obvious that clubs would prefer not to strengthen direct rivals unless they have absolutely no choice.

I'd take less money and send him to Betis than more money and Villa

Are you comparing Lo Celso to Modric and Kane to make a point? Deary me.

 

[DiscoD1882]

He’s had 4/5 managers to prove his worth for us. And he’s not been a regular for any of them. I couldn’t care less who we sell him to. Looks good in an Argentina shirt. But never done anything of note for us. I fact I can’t remember one stand out moment.

 

[Locotoro]

Nah, just look at City, or even Chelsea when the were dominant. They never have a problem with selling what they believe are lesser players to rivals, because it's all about them and what they do.

You Maximise outs to allow you to maximise in's. If you are in a position where you are worried a player you actively want out will strengthen your rivals so much that they will finish above you, then perhaps you shouldn't be selling him at all.

Theres a big difference between us now and City/Chelsea eating at the top table. The market for teams buying their players and that those players would be happy to go to is much smaller. Example being Alvarez, I'm sure he would have gone for over 100m had it been Chelsea, Man Utd or Liverpool in for him and he would have strengthened anyone of those teams and it's reported Chelsea were in for him in a big way. But City chose to sell him abroad to a team that didn't directly compete with them.

Besides if we have any extra 10 million from Lo Celso that's not going to impact our spend

 

[Stoof]

He’s had 4/5 managers to prove his worth for us. And he’s not been a regular for any of them. I couldn’t care less who we sell him to. Looks good in an Argentina shirt. But never done anything of note for us. I fact I can’t remember one stand out moment.

Potentially slightly harsh, he loves a goal against Man City.

 

[Locotoro]

Are you comparing Lo Celso to Modric and Kane to make a point? Deary me.

Clearly I'm not. I'm saying that clubs do think about not selling to rivals which was Trixs point.

Please tell me that didn't go over your head?

 

[HildoSpur]

I'm saying that clubs do think about not selling to rivals which was Trixs point.

Please tell me that didn't go over your head?

You are comparing us potentially selling perhaps our greatest ever player and a player who went on to be arguably the greatest midfielder of all time to us selling lo Celso to Villa. These are not comparable scenarios. Lo Celso has largely been a total waste of space for us and I'll just be happy to see the back of him.

 

[Locotoro]

You are comparing us potentially selling perhaps our greatest ever player and a player who went on to be arguably the greatest midfielder of all time to us selling lo Celso to Villa. These are not comparable scenarios. Lo Celso has largely been a total waste of space for us and I'll just be happy to see the back of him.

No, I'm not even comparing the players so I don't see where you're getting that from.
I'm stating, very clearly and succinctly, that clubs do care about not selling to rivals. Regardless of your view of Lo Celso's quality, or lack thereof - he would considerably improve Aston Villa.

 

[Klinsmannic]

Sell him to whoever will take him- I'd be delighted if Villa paid us a fee for him. No room for sentimentality, I'm sorry if that sounds harsh. I'm not looking at his undoubted talent- even NDombele has talent- but his application for us has been poor compared to what he seemingly gives for Argentina.

108 appearances for us across 4 seasons, Vs NDombele 91 across 3 seasons. Just saying.

 

[he is you know!]

Theres a big difference between us now and City/Chelsea eating at the top table. The market for teams buying their players and that those players would be happy to go to is much smaller. Example being Alvarez, I'm sure he would have gone for over 100m had it been Chelsea, Man Utd or Liverpool in for him and he would have strengthened anyone of those teams and it's reported Chelsea were in for him in a big way. But City chose to sell him abroad to a team that didn't directly compete with them.

Besides if we have any extra 10 million from Lo Celso that's not going to impact our spend

The player wanted more football and to leave the UK not because City didn't want to strengthen their rivals.

 

[HildoSpur]

No, I'm not even comparing the players so I don't see where you're getting that from.
I'm stating, very clearly and succinctly, that clubs do care about not selling to rivals. Regardless of your view of Lo Celso's quality, or lack thereof - he would considerably improve Aston Villa.

You are comparing Spurs selling THEIR BEST PLAYERS to rivals as a reason why we shouldn't sell lo Celso to a potential rival. It is a total nonsense of an argument.

 

[Locotoro]

The player wanted more football and to leave the UK not because City didn't want to strengthen their rivals.

Not seen that reported anywhere. Would you mind sending me a link to where you heard that?

 

[TPdYID]

GLC never really seemed to buy in to being a THFC player. I can’t recall an interview, rarely features on the socials, he rarely seems to connect with the fans, he’s just sort of Romero’s wash-bag carrier.

Before anyone comments “well maybe if the fans showed him more”, may I point you in the direction of Royal. Albeit a limited player, to the naked-eye he tried everything to fit in and look like he wanted to be at the club.

Yes, Royal got a hard time from some sections but it didn’t stop his infectious personality and determination to want to improve.

I want the players to know, they’re all living our dream. At least look like you want to be playing.

 

[Locotoro]

You are comparing Spurs selling THEIR BEST PLAYERS to rivals as a reason why we shouldn't sell lo Celso to a potential rival. It is a total nonsense of an argument.

That's your incorrect interpretation. If you're somehow understanding something else from the words I am writing there's not an awful lot I can do to help.

Very simply, clubs do not like strengthening rivals and will avoid it where possible