Eric Dier

[DJS]

What position is he then?

He is a shit DM, shit CM and a shit AM.

He isn’t shit, quite the opposite.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

What position is he then?

He is a shit DM, shit CM and a shit AM.

Wow.

 

[HW61]

I see an increased clamouring for a return of Dier (esp in the Poch thread for some reason). The Dier of the pre-Man U head turning days would be perfect.

But seriously since then he has suffered from any combination of a lack of focus/injuries and illnesses/weight gain and being increasingly immobile. He’s not the same player as is the same with Wanyama. When he plays now I seem to spend my time counting how often he points rather than his football.

He’s far from crap. Just find it odd that he’s being raised as some form of saviour from the crap we’re seeing at the moment.

 

[Japhet]

I see an increased clamouring for a return of Dier (esp in the Poch thread for some reason). The Dier of the pre-Man U head turning days would be perfect.

But seriously since then he has suffered from any combination of a lack of focus/injuries and illnesses/weight gain and being increasingly immobile. He’s not the same player as is the same with Wanyama. When he plays now I seem to spend my time counting how often he points rather than his football.

He’s far from crap. Just find it odd that he’s being raised as some form of saviour from the crap we’re seeing at the moment.

I want to see him back in the hybrid DM/CB role. our fullbacks aren't suited to a back 4 (apart from Davies) and we suffer from lack of width when they don't get forward and lack of defensive cover when they do. I don't know how fit Dier is, but we have to change something, and IMO bringing him back in isn't a bad shout.

 

[dagraham]

I see an increased clamouring for a return of Dier (esp in the Poch thread for some reason). The Dier of the pre-Man U head turning days would be perfect.

But seriously since then he has suffered from any combination of a lack of focus/injuries and illnesses/weight gain and being increasingly immobile. He’s not the same player as is the same with Wanyama. When he plays now I seem to spend my time counting how often he points rather than his football.

He’s far from crap. Just find it odd that he’s being raised as some form of saviour from the crap we’re seeing at the moment.

I don’t think it’s odd when you take into account the way we have been playing for the last year or so.

I will fully admit I was not a lover of Dier’s abilities in midfield ( even though I loved his attitude). As you say, his lack of mobility and the fact he simply isn’t comfortable in possession when pressed and always slows the play down. And I still stand by that.

The issue is you cannot deny that he has an ability to cover the space in midfield, particularly when our fullbacks are caught upfield. And I don’t think our poor defensive displays since he’s been out and Wanyama got broken are a coincidence.

If we are going to persist in playing the diamond and/or still send out fullbacks way up the pitch then we need a DM. I would hope we will sign a better one ( preferably one who can also transition the ball quicker as well as protect the back four), but as of this moment Dier is the best we have for that role.

 

[JayB]

I see an increased clamouring for a return of Dier (esp in the Poch thread for some reason). The Dier of the pre-Man U head turning days would be perfect.

But seriously since then he has suffered from any combination of a lack of focus/injuries and illnesses/weight gain and being increasingly immobile. He’s not the same player as is the same with Wanyama. When he plays now I seem to spend my time counting how often he points rather than his football.

He’s far from crap. Just find it odd that he’s being raised as some form of saviour from the crap we’re seeing at the moment.

I largely agree with what you're saying but I want him back in the team anyway. Tactically we're a mess at the moment, and having a genuine DM (especially one adept at dropping into a back three) would give greater cover the the CBs and allow them to split out wide, taking away some of the space on the flanks that is currently being exploited. Dier may not be anywhere near the level of a top DM on current form, but at least it'd give us some semblance of solidity.

I say put him back in the side and let him show whether he'll be able to recapture his best form or not. If so, great, we've got one of our best players back and have the luxury of integrating Skipp gradually. If not, oh well, we move on in January and make a new DM signing a top priority.

 

[spursfan77]

I see an increased clamouring for a return of Dier (esp in the Poch thread for some reason). The Dier of the pre-Man U head turning days would be perfect.

But seriously since then he has suffered from any combination of a lack of focus/injuries and illnesses/weight gain and being increasingly immobile. He’s not the same player as is the same with Wanyama. When he plays now I seem to spend my time counting how often he points rather than his football.

He’s far from crap. Just find it odd that he’s being raised as some form of saviour from the crap we’re seeing at the moment.

I know what you're saying but he's best when he's asked to sit in front of a back four, cover the defence and give the ball forward. He's not good when asked to do more, give a range of passing, attack or shoot at goal.

My worry is, Poch will keep the formation but play Dier in a role he's not suited for and he will have a poor game because of it and also being rusty.

 

[dagraham]

I know what you're saying but he's best when he's asked to sit in front of a back four, cover the defence and give the ball forward. He's not good when asked to do more, give a range of passing, attack or shoot at goal.

My worry is, Poch will keep the formation but play Dier in a role he's not suited for and he will have a poor game because of it and also being rusty.

He doesn’t really do this well though which was one of the reasons I wasn’t bothered when he was out of the team and I have this feeling was one of the reasons Poch changed things.

Problem is it’s become apparent that the other aspects of Dier’s play were important to the way the whole team played, especially the full backs. I’m surprised Poch hasn’t realised this and made signing a proper DM a priority, but maybe that’s his stubborn streak or maybe he does want to sign one, but thinks we can make do until future transfer windows? Or maybe he just thinks we need to run harder and faster?

 

[spursfan77]

He doesn’t really do this well though which was one of the reasons I wasn’t bothered when he was out of the team and I have this feeling was one of the reasons Poch changed things.

Problem is it’s become apparent that the other aspects of Dier’s play were important to the way the whole team played, especially the full backs. I’m surprised Poch hasn’t realised this and made signing a proper DM a priority, but maybe that’s his stubborn streak or maybe he does want to sign one, but thinks we can make do until future transfer windows? Or maybe he just thinks we need to run harder and faster?

I think he wants to play (or turn) Winks into a DM. He wants one that can pass and move the ball. When we didn't get De Jong he's used Winks to do that instead. A bit silly really, I like Winks as a player, but sometimes you need more than what he gives there.

 

[dagraham]

I think he wants to play (or turn) Winks into a DM. He wants one that can pass and move the ball. When we didn't get De Jong he's used Winks to do that instead. A bit silly really, I like Winks as a player, but sometimes you need more than what he gives there.

Yeah I think you’re right. He wants a Carrick or Xabi Alonso type, which is fine by me, but Winks isn’t it. He can’t read the game well enough for a start.

 

[Primativ]

Dier was the most upgradable player in our side two years ago, now he’s going to be our saviour in DM? I find that unlikely however he’s worth a try. If he can get his form back he’s a much better option than playing Winks in there.

 

[Komma]

Whenever our team goes through a bad run,I find it amusing that a player that has been berated for his performances, suddenly becomes the saviour when he is on the sidelines .
I have always appreciated the work that Eric does off the ball and this is often missed by many. Yes he had a dip in form, but every player does.If played in his best position, in front of the back 4,we will give ourselves a platform to win games.

 

[sammyj]

Need him badly

 

[EQP]

I see an increased clamouring for a return of Dier (esp in the Poch thread for some reason). The Dier of the pre-Man U head turning days would be perfect.

But seriously since then he has suffered from any combination of a lack of focus/injuries and illnesses/weight gain and being increasingly immobile. He’s not the same player as is the same with Wanyama. When he plays now I seem to spend my time counting how often he points rather than his football.

He’s far from crap. Just find it odd that he’s being raised as some form of saviour from the crap we’re seeing at the moment.

So spot on.

 

[SE Spurs]

Looked like he'd forgotten how to play football in the 1st half. His touch was fcking horrendous, and looked slow. Got zero help from Ndombele and co. though.

 

[Shadydan]

Need him badly

Looked like he'd forgotten how to play football in the 1st half. His touch was fcking horrendous, and looked slow. Got zero help from Ndombele and co. though.

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[jonnyp]

Too slow, bad touch and passing. Not good e ough

 

[fortworthspur]

I actually thought he gave us a little of whats been lacking though he was rusty as hell.

 

[whitesocks]

He looked like a player who has been sat on the bench all season, waiting to be sold in january.
Dier was out of MP's plans, then suddenly he is thrown back in as the saviour.
He was meant to fail, and MP didn't even get that right.

I thought he made 1 or 2 early passes forward to Eriksen just the like the good old days and was combative.
Then we looked better with the back 3/hybrid thing.

Dier looked very rusty, and slow, but he wasn't the worst player on the pitch by a long long way.

 

[Danny1]

No blame for Dier at all! He has barely played so is allowed to look a little rusty.