Player Watch Player Watch...Dele Alli

spursfan77

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I didn’t think it was a penalty tbf. But they should have all angles covered at var. defo penalty, we were still fucking shit tho.
I agree. But goals change games. Mike Dean was never going to give us a penalty though was he in all fairness.
 

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg

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I agree. But goals change games. Mike Dean was never going to give us a penalty though was he in all fairness.
I dunno about that, it's probably a pen but during the match there weren't many who thought that was a pen. Shit happens and as so many folk say, the rub of the green balances itself over the course of a season.

Probably not the next home game, but still, soon.
 

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I guess Dele All divides opinion far more than I realized. I haven't wandered into this thread too often. I'm genuinely surprised.

I've read the match threads and ratings sometimes, but I'm surprised by the negativity re Dele here.

Apart from anything else, we're struggling with suitable, fit, non-suspended squad options in our front line.

That's even without talking about all the other, bigger squad shortfalls we have in other areas of the park, which impacts everything up front.
 

Martinhotspur

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That's funny as apart from his obligatory goal against Sweden I think you will find his average match rating was a 6 throughout the whole tournament. Also you are aware average players not saying Dele is but can win World Cups and Champions league due to being carried there by better players around them...step forward Djimi Trarore, Wes Brown, Jesper Blomquist, John O'Shea, Stephane Guivarch and I'm sure there will be many more.

So really your comment is just a lazy one.
Yeah Leicester won the league with the majority of their team being bang average. We had Poch the messiah and he couldn't stop them.
. But Messi can't win the world cup with ^bang average" team mates.
 

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Yeah Leicester won the league with the majority of their team being bang average. We had Poch the messiah and he couldn't stop them.
. But Messi can't win the world cup with ^bang average" team mates.
Thanks mate.... appreciate the support.
 

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Not really, the common theme on here is that if a group of posters take a disliking to a player every time they misplace a pass the thread gets filled up with said posters slating the player (see Tripper, Aurier etc) and possibly some of our fans like to back our players rather than slagging them off at every given chance, as said most who have backed Dele has admitted his many flaws as a player so it's not like were burying our head in the sand suggesting he's the best thing since sliced bread. Just you and the other boys all in here patting eachother on the back "here comes the auntie" and all that bollox come across as wanky to be honest.

Criticism is fine but to feel 'vindicated' when one of your own teams players has a bad game...give your head a wobble.
And as usual folks like you can't play the ball and focus on the man. You have NO point in defense of this player yet you come in here and defend him and attack anyone that dares to admit reality. Address the points being made. Even now your whole post is about folks criticizing Dele and nothing but the vague 'many flaws'. Are any of our direct criticisms valid? Does he slow attacks? Is he a walking loss of possession? Has he improved in five years? If not then why all the excuses? And if all these things are true then why can't you see that life might be better without him?

I don't want to 'support' this fecking player. Do you know why? Because I believe he is hurting the team. Even in the games he scores his awful play has hurt the team for 89 minutes. If there was a competent footballer playing games then perhaps we wouldn't need his goalhanging magic at the end. Why would anyone want to support something or someone that in their opinion damages the thing they care about? Are you under the delusion that it will somehow positively affect his play? Then why hasn't it thus far?

A bad game? Really? He's been shit for the two years previous while playing deeper. And even in his 'best' years he overall play was no great shakes and only justified because of production. There have been multiple arguments put forward already as to why even those seasons weren't successes. But you stay focused on shouting us down about Dele's multi-year 'bad game'.
 

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Dunno what we're trying to achieve here.

Some think that he's a very good player, but obviously with some weaknesses. Other say that he's shit. Even if he's contributing to us scoring goals more than every other game, statistically.

The last pages have basically been these two polar opposites yelling at eachother, with some masturbation tips added.
 

whitelightwhiteheat

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Dunno what we're trying to achieve here.

Some think that he's a very good player, but obviously with some weaknesses. Other say that he's shit. Even if he's contributing to us scoring goals more than every other game, statistically.

The last pages have basically been these two polar opposites yelling at eachother, with some masturbation tips added.
What more could you want from the Internet in 2020 to be fair?
 

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We talk about racial, homophobic, etc. abuse..
I can see from reading just this thread there is definitely a problem in today's world.

Just because he's white, I can't vouch for anything more, he's still being verbally abused on here.

What is the difference in peoples mindset that makes this OK??????????????

I really cannot understand the ferocity and venom used against another human being let alone with him being a player for our own team.

Happy F..... new year to you too.
No emoji's just disgust.

EDIT my mistake Alli is mixed race not white...
Anyway I'm done.
 
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whitelightwhiteheat

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We talk about racial, homophobic, etc. abuse..
I can see from reading just this thread there is definitely a problem in today's world.

Just because he's white, I can't vouch for anything more, he's still being verbally abused on here.

What is the difference in peoples mindset that makes this OK??????????????

I really cannot understand the ferocity and venom used against another human being let alone him being a player for our own team.

Happy F..... new year to you too.
No emoji's just disgust.
What? I feel like I've missed something. Who's being racially abused?
 

Vinny_Sammways_left_peg

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Dunno what we're trying to achieve here.

Some think that he's a very good player, but obviously with some weaknesses. Other say that he's shit. Even if he's contributing to us scoring goals more than every other game, statistically.

The last pages have basically been these two polar opposites yelling at eachother, with some masturbation tips added.
@tooey nailed those, didn't he? Enya, candles and a bath ... What a way to see in the New Year.
 

JimmyG2

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'10 years ahead of his time'

You'll have to wait
another 40 years Dele
to be truly appreciated.
 

DJS

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We talk about racial, homophobic, etc. abuse..
I can see from reading just this thread there is definitely a problem in today's world.

Just because he's white, I can't vouch for anything more, he's still being verbally abused on here.

What is the difference in peoples mindset that makes this OK??????????????

I really cannot understand the ferocity and venom used against another human being let alone with him being a player for our own team.

Happy F..... new year to you too.
No emoji's just disgust.

EDIT my mistake Alli is mixed race not white...
Anyway I'm done.
What on earth are you talking about?

People are pissed off he is unbalancing the team and putting in a poor effort, you shouldn't bring racial / homophobic accusations to the table unnessecarily as it just cheapens them.

And who could you not even see he's mixed race straight away?
 

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I'm a bit bored so I've been looking at some of his stats this season as it's been mentioned how often he gives the ball away. I'm not trying to prove anything here, but thought some of you might find this interesting:

Pass Completion:
Dele 77.4%
For comparison:
KDB 81.3%
Grealish 85.2%
Mount 83.9%
Mooy 79.7%
Salah 76.1%
TAA 75.7%
Kane 67.2%
Firmino 79.2%

Key Passes Per Game:
Dele 1.2
KDB 3.7
Firmino 1.2
Grealish 2.7
Maddison 2.5

Dispossessed Per Game:
Dele 1.7
Grealish 1.7
Firmino 1.2
Maddison 1
KDB 0.9

Poor Control Per Game:
Dele 2.3
Sterling 2.0
Grealish 1.7
Firmino 1.2
Maddiosn 1
KDB 0.9

Looking at those stats its the Poor Control one that leaps out at me. I wonder if that's something that's been worked on with him? I assume the pass completion stat includes the little flicks and tricks that he often tries that don't come off? Again that could be something that could be improved with the right coaching. It will be interesting to see what impact working under a new manager and set of coaches has on his game.
 
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