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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

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He is also absolutely nowhere near as awkward on the ball as people make out. He's a footballing CB, he just doesn't have a side-parting, which might confuse some. He can dribble and he does go for adventurous long balls all the time. People talk about him as if he's Chris Samba simply because he's stacked and strong in the tackle. Looking forward to his ability being appreciated and people bravely posting "omg I can't believe how wrong I was, but hehe, I do hold my hands up!!!".

Edit - chuckled at the disagree from somebody who just said something as loopy as "he's a limited footballer".
He goes for those long balls but almost never completes them. I wish he'd dribble more. But he's not great offensively which is fine since he's a CB but it is definitely something he needs to work on. As I said, you can see the way teams press/trap him with the ball and its clear to see others think he's not great on the ball. Hell even Mourinho said it during the Ajax/ManU match up a few years back.
 

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Completely agree, in fact he is probably better on the ball than he is at being a stopper sort of defender. I don't think he's that big anyway. Also it's so useful to have a CB with good pace too.

You don’t play for Ajax without being able to handle the ball, and Barcelona don’t extensively scout you - desperate for your signature - if you can’t play. Our enlightened fans know best though. Foyth is seen as a ball-playing CB hilariously - he loses the ball loads and is just as safe as, if not safer than, Sanchez with his passing. Does go on more eye-catching (read dangerous) dribbles though.
 
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Ronwol196061

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He goes for those long balls but almost never completes them. I wish he'd dribble more. But he's not great offensively which is fine since he's a CB but it is definitely something he needs to work on. As I said, you can see the way teams press/trap him with the ball and its clear to see others think he's not great on the ball. Hell even Mourinho said it during the Ajax/ManU match up a few years back.

I dont think its wise for DS to dribble out of the box
But he could make good use of the ball
He is too nervous he treats it like a hot potato
 

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Hes got bags of potential, and he is of course already a very good player.
The thing that worries me is that he seems to do awful passes and make strange decisions now and then. (had a couple of dangerous errors in first half against city).
 

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Same as always for me, you can see the way teams try to press/trap the ball when it gets to him.
Makes it a lot easier to press when you know that he will want to pass it straight back to where it came from before the whistle is even blown.
Teams just sit off a bit, wait for him to receive it, then press closing Toby or Verts off and he's like a rabbit in the headlights. You can clearly see he doesnt want the ball.
Teams did same with Lloris under Poch. When you know with 100% certainty that he WILL throw it out regardless of whether players are under pressure or not. Just drop a little so he throws it out and then wham, box us in around our own goal area.
Playing 1 way every match regardless of the opposition or whats actually happening is so daft it begs belief. In game management is a dying art imo.
Players are like robots these days, programmed to do one thing and cant possibly think for themselves.
Anyway, apologies for going off topic and drivelling to myself. Moan over. COYS.
 

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As a pure defender imo his up there (one on ones).

On the ball he isn't that assured but not as bad as people make out
 

Tit&Ham

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As a pure defender imo his up there (one on ones).

On the ball he isn't that assured but not as bad as people make out

This surprises me, and maybe I’m wrong, but:

- how many times has he been outmuscled/outshouldered by smaller players

- How is his clearences? Does it ever fall to a Spurs-player?

- how is his awareness of bodies around him when defending crosses?

- how is his awareness of the line?

- how is his passing?

he is one hell of a header and he have pace and some last ditch blocks.

But if this is what he’s got in his bags, then well, he is a championship player - at best. And I’m normally a «glass is half full»kind of guy
 

Tit&Ham

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@ButchCassidy please let me now what you disagree on. Don’t care about rating, but are truly interested in different views as I don’t see any hope for this guy (but want to)
 

Ronwol196061

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Some times DS is cool and collected other just looks nervous. Thats the great difference in his performances
 

Tit&Ham

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If your genuine conclusion is "he is a championship player - at best" then I'm afraid I don't really see the point.

would love to be proven wrong.
But in my view, our defence is one of the worst in the league and he is no regular starter so I don’t see the big controversy in saying he is not good enough for PL.
But I’ll leave it there. Hope I’m wrong and he becomes a star
 

Spurrific

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would love to be proven wrong.
But in my view, our defence is one of the worst in the league and he is no regular starter so I don’t see the big controversy in saying he is not good enough for PL.
But I’ll leave it there. Hope I’m wrong and he becomes a star

You are already wrong. You're chatting copious amounts of bollocks. "A Championship player" - is such a stupid thing to say, and I'm sure you're not stupid. He was far better than Toby yesterday, but your take-away and direct response to people praising him was to slate him. Weird.
 

Tit&Ham

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You are already wrong. You're chatting copious amounts of bollocks. "A Championship player" - is such a stupid thing to say, and I'm sure you're not stupid. He was far better than Toby yesterday, but your take-away and direct response to people praising him was to slate him. Weird.

I wasn’t talking about yesterday as an isolated event - but highlighted all his flaws (and good qualities) in general.

This is my perception of him, and I am curious to learn what others are seeing that I don’t - but am mostly drained in WTF ratings and short replies that I am totally wrong. I am fine with that - no prob.

I am not sure Dave was better than Toby yesterday, but maybe he was.
But in general i believe:

He cannot pass, Even short un-pressed passes are often misplaced.
He cannot clear the ball controlled with his feet or head.
He has trouble with following the line of the rest of the defence.
He is often unaware of players behind him.
He charges to much at times when standing patiently in the back would be enough.

Am I wrong in this perception?

like I said - he has immense Power and speed, sometimes correcting own wrongdoings... But is that enough?

I feel Tanganga is already a much better player

(I’m over the moon with recent results, but still think it’s fair to have negative opinions on certain issues)
 

Havre

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I think that is far too simplistic. He is clumsy and that I believe he will always be, but for me he is a bit like Lloris. Lloris makes those huge mistakes that everyone remember so he almost by default gets underrated (at least among non Spursfans). Sanchez clears the ball in a clumsy way and the focus isn't on him being in the right place, but that he didn't clear the ball cleanly.

The same with his passing. It isn't good, but it looks worse than it is. His posture on the ball just isn't very good (he looks uncomfortable), but I would challenge people to try to look past those visual "tells" when evaluating Sanchez (that sounds a bit more arrogant than I really mean it to be - I don't necessarily mean that I understand something that "you" don't).

Time will tell if he ends up like Rio cleaning up his game or if he will stay Titus Bramble (obviously he will never be as good as Rio, but in terms of getting rid of silly/clumsiness).

I like him. And I think he has improved significantly under Mourinho. Still a long way to go, but I think he has a fair shot at becoming a top class CB. His biggest weakness is probably that he needs to have a certain partner - someone that can really play the ball. For all his fantastic passing I'm not sure if Alderweireld is the perfect fit for Sanchez. I think Sanchez would have done better with someone having quicker feet than Alderweireld. Obviously not suggesting to replace Alderweireld, but if my hypothesis is true then it limits Sanchez's potential a bit. Not good when players need very specific conditions to succeed. Sakho is a good example of the same. Excellent in the right team, but horrible in the wrong setup.
 
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