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Player Watch: Davinson Sanchez

rio bryan

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It doesn't matter who we play at the back mistakes still happen, Everton game for example where Richarlison who should of had a hatrick and was made to look like messi. We need to defend as a team all over the pitch and the mistakes will rectify themselves.
Our defending in open play is ok, set pieces and individual errors are our downfall.
 

double0

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The focus is on Sanchez because people expect him to the leader at the back.

I said many times Sanchez is by far the best defender at the club he really puts himself in positions to defend and never hides.

The own goal was cruel and we really shouldn't be stomping on him for that (Bale missed a golden opportunity to kill the game) , he just got the header all wrong and that can happen take Kalvin Philips of Leeds own goal against Wolves.

That being said Sanchez still has room for improvement on the ball he can be erratic tbh that is the area I mostly worry about with him but I do believe he will come of age and be the total package.

At the current moment my concern is Sanchez not being paired correctly at the back, his partnership with Toby seems to be a weakness any time they're paired together it seems to me Toby just leaves the bulk duties to Sanchez take the Wet Spam game all the duels headers passing from the back covering you hardly saw Toby it was Sanchez being in position and really Lloris didn't have to make any additional saves apart from the goals .

To my mind we let go of the wrong CB, Vertonghen was always a better foil with Sanchez, Dier also with Sanchez is forming well by far better than Toby.
 

double0

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All the clips shown I saw good defending sometimes you have to foul.

However on the ball Sanchez isn't great. The last clip where the ushered Antonio away from goal and managed to get the ball off him was class defending but then he didn't have enough composure to pick a pass ie companied with a lack of movement he just cleared it.
 

double0

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I know I'm going in and defending Sanchez.

I seem to always find myself doing this, it could be l'm completely wrong about Sanchez but I truly feel his a very good defender.

We know on the ball he has to improve its why we need to pair him correctly.

He played left CB and he is right footed that missed placed pass was on his left foot.
 

Locotoro

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I know I'm going in and defending Sanchez.

I seem to always find myself doing this, it could be l'm completely wrong about Sanchez but I truly feel his a very good defender.

We know on the ball he has to improve its why we need to pair him correctly.

He played left CB and he is right footed that missed placed pass was on his left foot.
You're right, he is a good defender. He's just not a great ball player. People seem to be confusing the two.
 

rio bryan

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All the clips shown I saw good defending sometimes you have to foul.

However on the ball Sanchez isn't great. The last clip where the ushered Antonio away from goal and managed to get the ball off him was class defending but then he didn't have enough composure to pick a pass ie companied with a lack of movement he just cleared it.
Why did he have to foul in that instance ?
 

SlotBadger

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One area of concern for me is that, outwardly, his head appears to be shaped like that of a regular skull, yet the accuracy of his heading suggests that he may be part hologram and has a head shaped as follows:

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kendoddsdadsdogsdead

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What makes Sanchez a good defender? He can’t time challenges and when to go in tight on someone, miss times headers/clearances, Gets out muscled and has to resort to fouling. People can keep on saying he’s our best defender but unfortunately it doesn’t make it true. Alderweireld has lost a bit of pace but he’s still pretty composed and fairly solid even if he’s not top class anymore.

also I don’t think people are confusing the two. Giving away possession or playing hospital passes invites more pressure on us. That is almost as big a problem as pure defending. We don’t keep the ball well enough. He just spreads panic with and without the ball.
 

bigfrooj

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Sanchez is a fabulous young defender with the potential to be of the very highest quality in time. I’m just glad there are no ‘fans‘ inside the stadium trying to destroy him. Get off his back.
 

hughy

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Sanchez is a fabulous young defender with the potential to be of the very highest quality in time. I’m just glad there are no ‘fans‘ inside the stadium trying to destroy him. Get off his back.
People have been saying this since we signed him. He had a solid first season, but hasn't really improved since at a rate to suggest this will ever be the case. I appreciate he isn't playing in his preferred position of RCB, but a lot of his mistakes (not just Sunday, but in general) aren't necessarily due to him playing on the wrong side of the two.

I am not one to criticise our players, but at times he is weak, loses concentration and panics on the ball. I can't imagine playing alongside him gives our other CB's a lot of confidence either. He is a "good" centre-back at best.
 

double0

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People have been saying this since we signed him. He had a solid first season, but hasn't really improved since at a rate to suggest this will ever be the case. I appreciate he isn't playing in his preferred position of RCB, but a lot of his mistakes (not just Sunday, but in general) aren't necessarily due to him playing on the wrong side of the two.

I am not one to criticise our players, but at times he is weak, loses concentration and panics on the ball. I can't imagine playing alongside him gives our other CB's a lot of confidence either. He is a "good" centre-back at best.
The same can be said of Lloris at times but you soon realise the good outweighs the bad.
 

GetKaned

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Pretty sure this has been said multiple times but Sanchez did improve his strengths over the course of his tenure but his main weakness remained with him. That is, him panicking on the ball. Another case of that on show was earlier in the season when his hands made contact with the ball against Plovdiv and he panicked and hoofed the ball away for a corner under no pressure. Plovdiv scored from the resulting corner.

Mourinho quite famously marked him out as the weak one and the one to be targeted among him and De Ligt in that EL final
 

hughy

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The same can be said of Lloris at times but you soon realise the good outweighs the bad.
Does it though? I mean with Sanchez, not Lloris. What worries me is that he's now a pupil of a club legend, and one of the most talented defenders in the club's recent history, and he still regularly seems to get the fundamentals wrong.

As I've already mentioned I'm not one for criticising players, particularly if it's not justified. But I'd like to see those defending Sanchez really pinpoint exactly why they are so sure he's going to turn out to be a worldy. In the 2 seasons since his good debut season I haven't seen enough from him to suggest this will be the case.
 

double0

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Does it though? I mean with Sanchez, not Lloris. What worries me is that he's now a pupil of a club legend, and one of the most talented defenders in the club's recent history, and he still regularly seems to get the fundamentals wrong.

As I've already mentioned I'm not one for criticising players, particularly if it's not justified. But I'd like to see those defending Sanchez really pinpoint exactly why they are so sure he's going to turn out to be a worldy. In the 2 seasons since his good debut season I haven't seen enough from him to suggest this will be the case.
I think your being very harsh. Out of interest name 5 CB's ( VVd Dias Laporte aside) better in the PL.
 

soflapaul

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The book isn't completed on him yet but you would have thought there was another positive chapter or two coming after that first season. He's a good defender but not the finished article where you could build the defense around him. He does tend to drift into space giving the opposing forwards a little too much room when the ball is on the wing (for my taste).

I'd give him another year under Jose and see what happens and suspect he'll come good as a solid yet unspectacular player. Also agree with the pairing issue with Toby but think that is more to them seeing the game differently. We are a bit spoiled having seen what happens when two defenders see the game the same way in Toby and Jan and they don't have to always verbally communicate to know what each other is going to do in a specific situation.
 

double0

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Mate we're discussing Sanchez...

Fair enough. We bought Sanchez at the age of 21. He just turned 24.

He learnt much more with Vertonghen if you asked me and he needs to be partnered with the right CB. On the ball we know his limitations and needs to improve.
 
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