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Player watch: Danny Rose

Shadydan

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If players are going to run their contracts down then what's stopping clubs from just not play them in their final year?
 

Gb160

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If players are going to run their contracts down then what's stopping clubs from just not play them in their final year?
Nothing, but I imagine it's a case of getting your moneys worth, if we're paying their wages then play them if needed.
 

Lighty64

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Exactly. 29 year old player wants to stay, manager wants to keep him, Levy and board want to sell, player speaks out. I have no problem with this at all as at least it gives you an insight into some of the unrest right now and shows that all the blame cannot be put on Poch (although a lot still can). The situation is probably the same with Verts too. Eriksen and Toby is different as we know they both want out.

Yes Rose is regressing, but he gets far too much hate on here and I’m glad the fans in the stadium still back him and sing his name as I don’t buy into the whole “Davies is better” argument (he’s bang average). If all our players showed Danny’s passion on the pitch we wouldn’t be 14th in the league.

the trouble is unless they mixed up his words, but the way it has come over is him saying "going to stay", if he said he wanted to stay, or hopes he can stay, then I might have felt differently, but "I'm going to stay till my contract runs out without", looks like even if a club came in for him before and paid him what he thinks he is worth and that club was up north, he would turn it down to get a freebie

edit: sorry but if he had done 4 things differently we wouldn't be 14th.

Newcastle he should of seen what was happening quicker, and covered quicker

Arsenal he lost possession in a dangerous place and cost us a goal at a vital time

Watford he made no attempt to even jump for a ball that went over his head that lead to them scoring

Liverpool doing an impression of Sissoko
 
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JollyHappy

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After having played Toby for 2 years when he wouldn't sign a new contract and then playing Eriksen and Jan, why pick on Rose.

Rose is our longest serving player, with us over 10 years and has stayed loyal to the team and fans all that time even through his mental issues and coming back from serious injury.

He clearly isn't as good as he was but why are people turning on him now for saying he wants to play for us for another 18 months and then move on. No-one has shown more loyalty to Spurs than Rose.

I'd hate to think that this will now develop into a hate Danny forum. He deserves more from us.
 

Lighty64

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After having played Toby for 2 years when he wouldn't sign a new contract and then playing Eriksen and Jan, why pick on Rose.

Rose is our longest serving player, with us over 10 years and has stayed loyal to the team and fans all that time even through his mental issues and coming back from serious injury.

He clearly isn't as good as he was but why are people turning on him now for saying he wants to play for us for another 18 months and then move on. No-one has shown more loyalty to Spurs than Rose.

I'd hate to think that this will now develop into a hate Danny forum. He deserves more from us.

2-3 years ago he told the press he wanted to play up North and get paid what he is worth
 

buckley

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Make no bones about this its all about money he has constantly run his mouth off about transfers (google) about wanting to end his career up north ( no club good enough in his mind came in for him ) etc and etc and etc .
In the summer the wake up call for him was that the only club that came in for him was Watford he chose to stay put WHY?
He has now stated he will see out the 18 months left on his contract.
The reason he has done this is the realisation that nobody is going to pay him what he is earning at Spurs .
Maximising his earnings will be by staying at Spurs and so all his talk is camouflage and rantings .
He is seeing out his contract for MONEY
 

Trees

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After having played Toby for 2 years when he wouldn't sign a new contract and then playing Eriksen and Jan, why pick on Rose.

Rose is our longest serving player, with us over 10 years and has stayed loyal to the team and fans all that time even through his mental issues and coming back from serious injury.

He clearly isn't as good as he was but why are people turning on him now for saying he wants to play for us for another 18 months and then move on. No-one has shown more loyalty to Spurs than Rose.

I'd hate to think that this will now develop into a hate Danny forum. He deserves more from us.
Sorry - no one has come in for him in that time. No players are that loyal these days.
 

Shadydan

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Make no bones about this its all about money he has constantly run his mouth off about transfers (google) about wanting to end his career up north ( no club good enough in his mind came in for him ) etc and etc and etc .
In the summer the wake up call for him was that the only club that came in for him was Watford he chose to stay put WHY?
He has now stated he will see out the 18 months left on his contract.
The reason he has done this is the realisation that nobody is going to pay him what he is earning at Spurs .
Maximising his earnings will be by staying at Spurs and so all his talk is camouflage and rantings .
He is seeing out his contract for MONEY

He's on £60k a week, pretty sure he could get more than that at the majority of Prem teams.
 

buckley

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Could you name the clubs in the premier that would pay him £80 .000 a week and also bear in mind that City / Man U / Chelsea / Liverpool / Arsenal / would not want or need him .
 

Yiddo100

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Could you name the clubs in the premier that would pay him £80 .000 a week and also bear in mind that City / Man U / Chelsea / Liverpool / Arsenal / would not want or need him .
Palace, West Ham I know they pay ridiculous wages for average players
 

Shadydan

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Could you name the clubs in the premier that would pay him £80 .000 a week and also bear in mind that City / Man U / Chelsea / Liverpool / Arsenal / would not want or need him .

Quite a few actually, bear in mind that Rose is on the same wage as Patrick Van Aanholt, he's getting paid less than Digne and Coleman at Everton, Ryan Bertrand at Southampton, less than Ogbonna and Reid at West Ham

 

wpmcg

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Make no bones about this its all about money he has constantly run his mouth off about transfers (google) about wanting to end his career up north ( no club good enough in his mind came in for him ) etc and etc and etc .
In the summer the wake up call for him was that the only club that came in for him was Watford he chose to stay put WHY?
He has now stated he will see out the 18 months left on his contract.
The reason he has done this is the realisation that nobody is going to pay him what he is earning at Spurs .
Maximising his earnings will be by staying at Spurs and so all his talk is camouflage and rantings .
He is seeing out his contract for MONEY
You're probably RIGHT! That's what I'd do.
 

hutchiniho

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It's obviously about Money. Any out of contract player will benefit significantly from a future club not having to pay a transfer fee.

For me, any player that explicitly announces that they are running the contract out should be with the reserves. Clearly not committed, obviously no intention to stay, so their game is bound to slip. Even if that's a small percentage, that can't happen at the top level.

Regardless of past efforts and successes. DR, TA, JV and CE should be nowhere near fully committed players who are giving everything.
All kinds of bad messages if one of the above gets picked ahead.
 

Locotoro

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He hasn't said anything that bad tbh but in our current predicament it does nothing to allieviate the general negative vibe around the club. If he really cared about the club he could have chosen his words more carefully.

Danny Rose is all about Danny Rose. One of the very few times I managed to be privy to itk was when a family member shared a coach journey with him during the Olympics with Team GB. The message that was received loud and clear was that if he wasn't first choice after his loan move to Sunderland that he'd be leaving and that he was already clearly better than BAE in his own opinion. Total dick and full of himself.
 

Locotoro

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Interesting to see so many reactions saying a version of Rose should rot.
No he shouldn't. He is neither professionally nor morally obliged to be sold on Levy's command.
He has a contract with the club, a contract that was freely entered into by both parties, and
his right is to see it through if he wants to. You cannot seriously wish to demote a player just because he doesn't want to be sold.
And then when a player does want to be sold, that's wrong too and posters criticise his loyalty. Let Rose have his contract, play footie, and let Levy not fetch his sell on fee. If players leave on a free after running down their contracts, that mismanagement by the directors, not misconduct by the players.

So you're critical of Levy for trying to sell him but also critical of Levy for letting him run down a contract? Tell me, what do you believe Levy should have done instead?
 
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Rose is our longest serving player, with us over 10 years and has stayed loyal to the team and fans all that time even through his mental issues and coming back from serious injury.

Hmm... that's the inverse of loyalty. It'd be more realistic to say that the club stuck by him through his injuries and issues.

I'm not sure how a player couldn't be loyal if they were out injured or medically afflicted. Apart from criticising the club on a reasonably regular basis in the public domain.


In all seriousness, he's suffering from something a lot of the public also do - I'm sure plenty of us have worked with that one guy that complains about everything and gets overlooked for promotions/pay rises because they are so negative.
 
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