Player watch: Danny Rose

[Goobers]

What has he done wrong but tell the truth?
Poch never wanted him to leave! I got more respect for players that tell it as it is, rather than those that say one thing to fans and press, and another behind closed doors ?

I agree. This kind of honesty is rare and I think fascinating in modern football. He is an intelligent, articulate man and knows what his profession is about. Perhaps he has not played as well as he has previously for us but I, for one, have no problem with him being with the club. I have loved watching this young man who scored that screamer grow into arguably the best left back in Europe3-4 years ago with speed bumps on the way. He has given ushis Career at an experimental level. Why would he want to leave. No wonder he said no to signing for Watford. As he said previously he knows his worth. He has my respect. Fully. I would love to believ he can get back to his brilliant best too.

 

[Jamturk]

Jamturk says that players are treated like chattel . to my mind there are only four clubs that pay higher wages in this country and if getting anything from 30 to 90 grand a week is being treated like chattel then boy would I like to be treated like chattel .
Some of these players need a reality check and if the only reason they want out of spurs is money then I am afraid they are in for a shock as
the wages even on a free will not be a lot different with what they are getting now
It is a fallacy about spurs being low payers of wages as the there are four that pay more and 87 that pay less in England.
Abroad wages are in general lower than the UK unless you play for one of the uber clubs and none of them will be interested in our wantaways .
You will have to excuse me because I have no sympathy with any of these wantaways if money is their motivation .
Nothing can excuse there seeming to down tools so to speak .
Even if they have other reasons 100% effort should still be the norm.

I'm not expressing sympathy, just that they have the right to look out for their own interests at the expense of the club.

 

[buckley]

Some players have true grit and real character .
Some players do not have these attributes but in place like to make a lot of noise and seem to want to rock the boat .
With Alerwerild he has made it plain last year he wants out and this has shown in his performances.
Aurier has made it clear he wants out and his play is awful to go along with the fact he wants away.
Eriksen said after the champions league final he wants out tho his play has said he has packed it in 18 months ago.
Rose has said he will leave on a Bosman in 18 months he might as well as left at the start of this season he won't be missed .
Verthongen is different he would stay if offered a 2 year deal but his play has not warranted a new deal .
If Levy was for once to bite the bullet and realise he is not going to get any money for these players except maybe Aurier who has longer to go on his contract and the best thing is to get these players away from the rest of the squad because their Millais is spreading like the pox to the rest of the squad .
All the fans where I sit have lost all belief and trust in this group of players .

 

[WannaDanceWithUdogie]

remember that whole Danny = Pochs media mouthpiece theory

 

[buckley]

These players do have the right to look after their own interest .
The club has the right to look after its own interest and top of that is when you are paying a player thousands of pounds to perform and the said players either don't care or are not up to it any more or are holding back for fear of injury that might impact a move to their next club .
Then the club has in my eyes the right to sideline this group of players for players that actually want to be here and play for the club. Ramsey of Arsenal moved on a Bosman last year to Juventus and it seemed like every time he played he was Arsenals best player which to me says he was a man with real character and that because you want out it is not OK to down tools because you are looking after your interest .
If anybody thinks these players that want out should be utilised then they are wrong as none of them has shown an inclination to have a go and give 100% as Ramsey did for Arsenal for to me they have little or no true grit and in all probability therein lies the reason we have come up short when it comes to winning something in the last few years.
Get rid of them from the squad if need be put in youth team players Tripp/Tanganga/ Parrot etc they at least will give 100% .
We may get the same results but it will be more palatable as these wantaways play is nothing less than disgraceful.
I say that because of how good they can be but for whatever reason just are not performing.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Danny Rose is no disruptive influence in the changing room etc. He is highly loved and liked by the players. He always tells it as it is. Wasn’t Poch who wanted him gone! Neither was it the players!

So insulting all your teammates by saying you’re fed up having to google signings isn’t disruptive? Bollocks mate, I can’t accept that no insult was caused to grown men who’d worked very hard to reach the peak of their profession, particularly those who were far more important to us at the time than Danny Rose.

Also, being popular with his teammates and besties with Pochettino doesn’t negate the fact that he’s contributed very little since the 16/17 season. I could forgive all his severe flaws of personality if he was any good but he coasts on faux passion, gumption and the occasional burst forward which invariably leads to nothing. In his mid twenties he was a very good left back, his late twenties have been a cacophony of misery and disappointment.

 

[muppetman]

So insulting all your teammates by saying you’re fed up having to google signings isn’t disruptive? Bollocks mate, I can’t accept that no insult was caused to grown men who’d worked very hard to reach the peak of their profession, particularly those who were far more important to us at the time than Danny Rose.

Also, being popular with his teammates and besties with Pochettino doesn’t negate the fact that he’s contributed very little since the 16/17 season. I could forgive all his severe flaws of personality if he was any good but he coasts on faux passion, gumption and the occasional burst forward which invariably leads to nothing. In his mid twenties he was a very good left back, his late twenties have been a cacophony of misery and disappointment.

The bold bit is why I don't think this is a massive ordeal. As ever, fans are precious - it's particularly comical people getting upset about a lack of loyalty whilst also being happy to fuck Poch out the door as quick as poss.

I'm not saying you specifically are one of those but there has been a lot of hypocritical nonsense talked about loyalty the last few weeks and it irritates me.

 

[Wearegoingtowintheleague]

So insulting all your teammates by saying you’re fed up having to google signings isn’t disruptive? Bollocks mate, I can’t accept that no insult was caused to grown men who’d worked very hard to reach the peak of their profession, particularly those who were far more important to us at the time than Danny Rose.

I see it as different, you're talking about players who are ambitious to win trophies. I doubt there were many, if any players who saw Danny's comments as aimed at them, but rather at the type of players we were being linked to signing. As fans, we could see how close we were to winning something and understand the difference the impact of buying the finished article could have, rather than taking a punt. I expect there were far more players who agreed with Danny than felt insulted.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

These players do have the right to look after their own interest .

sigh

 

[beats1]

So you give a player a long term contract and now people are pissed off that we can't profit off him whilst we get pissed off when players demand a move and threaten to not play

He hasn't been paid much at his time here compared to the fullbacks of the other 5 or 6 teams around us so him wanting to see out his full contract is fair

Because footballers get paid so much more than we do, we make them less human

How many people here would see leave a contract early for a new employer just because the current employer wants to profit from reneging on your current contract?

 

[dagraham]

So according to Rose, we've got a player who the manager likes and wants to keep, but a board that is desperate to sell.

Now I'm confused; that sounds bonkers.

Sounds just like typical Spurs to me.

 

[sparx100]

I wish he would shut the fuck up. Honestly drop him. He has been awful this season and this is just not needed at this moment.

 

[kaz Hirai]

I wish he would shut the fuck up. Honestly drop him. He has been awful this season and this is just not needed at this moment.

Considering we only have been Davies I'd say he's very much needed still

 

[danielneeds]

I can’t help think it’s not a coincidence that all of the senior players in the squad are planning to run their contracts down - Eriksen, Toby, Jan, Rose, and Dembele almost did it but for a big Chinese offer.

It’s almost like they came to a collective decision to give Levy the bird for underpaying them.

 

[mike_l]

I can’t help think it’s not a coincidence that all of the senior players in the squad are planning to run their contracts down - Eriksen, Toby, Jan, Rose, and Dembele almost did it but for a big Chinese offer.

It’s almost like they came to a collective decision to give Levy the bird for underpaying them.

Yeah, and the likes of Son, Kane and Dele are collectively flipping Levy the bird too by taking more and more of his precious money every time they sign new contracts!

 

[BringBack_leGin]

I can’t help think it’s not a coincidence that all of the senior players in the squad are planning to run their contracts down - Eriksen, Toby, Jan, Rose, and Dembele almost did it but for a big Chinese offer.

It’s almost like they came to a collective decision to give Levy the bird for underpaying them.

By screwing themselves out of contracts worth in some cases up to £5m per year more (difference between what Eriksen is reportedly on and what he turned down) in hope that they’d get huge offers elsewhere but in no way mitigating against potential loss of form, injury, or just plain getting old?

I’d wager that none of Rose, Toby, Vertonghen and Eriksen will get what they would have from us anywhere in a top league, and have just missed out on 2 seasons (based on when Kane, Dele and Son signed) I’d much higher salaries to in vain. Even if they all get more than we offered them, I doubt it’ll be enough to cover the wages they’ve not had from us, even with signing on fees. Eriksen might be the only exception.

 

['O Zio]

I think everyone is a little hyper critical here. He isn't saying a great deal wrong here. We want him gone, he doesn't want to go so he is seeing out his contract. What's wrong with that?

People suggesting we chuck him in the reserves for the sheer audacity of wanting to stay at the club he has been at for over a decade are no better than the likes of Berbatov, loyalty works both ways! We want players to commit to long term contacts, demand they honour them if it suits us yet want to retain the option to ditch the player whenever we want? Doesn't sound fair. Even when they do honour their contract we get pissy because they won't sign new ones so we can sell them for more money (makes sense doesn't it!)

The way I see it he can still be a very useful squad player. If he doesn't want to go and understands his game time will be limited let him see out his time in peace and when he leaves remember him for the player he was at his peak.

In isolation I think you have a point. If a player doesn't want to leave then the club have to honour their contract whether they want to or not, and that's fair enough.

But in the context of him slagging off the club and saying he wanted to go "up north" and earn more money etc. and then once he realises that nobody was that interested in him and he can't get a better offer all of a sudden it's him back in the papers again mouthing off about how harshly he's being treated and us trying to force him out etc. That's what pisses me off.

 

['O Zio]

How many people here would see leave a contract early for a new employer just because the current employer wants to profit from reneging on your current contract?

You're right but if I publicly slagged off my employer and openly talked about how I could make more money elsewhere and get better working conditions etc. and said company told me that if that's how I feel then they won't stand in my way, But then after applying to loads of jobs with no success I decided the grass wasn't greener after all, I wouldn't expect much sympathy from the employer.

 

[stevespurs]

If these senior players have a contract in place with another team next season, I can understand their crap form. If they are trying to put themselves in the shop window and attract a big club, they are failing miserably.
But why is the whole squad out of form for so long? Is it coming from the top, with the depressed, stressed outlook from Poch, or over training?
The team can’t be happy with their form. Dele, Dier, Rose and maybe next Kane too? Have all lost their place in the England team.
The improvements they all made in their early to mid 20’s were great. Happy smiley positive Poch.
Danny Rose just mirrors what is the theme across the whole squad.

How do we make Poch happy again? Please send ideas to Daniel Levy.

 

[dondo]

I wish he would shut the fuck up. Honestly drop him. He has been awful this season and this is just not needed at this moment.

What he says he is going to do by running his contract down he is well within his rights but why does he have to tell the world about it?
Not a team player he has a grudge to bare to with ENIC because he didn’t get his big money move or big pay raise and now he is a fraction of the player he was to merit the big money anywhere else and is bitter about it.
Don’t like his attitude or playing abilities anymore. If it was up to me he would get the choice to leave for a low fee or not play at all