Player watch: Danny Rose

[King of Otters]

Nope nope nope nope. You should've stopped when you said "As a white man who doesn’t experience racism, I’m speaking from a position of privilege and possibly ignorance"

If the issue was only racism, I’d agree. But he makes it clear in the interview that isn’t the sole cause of his discontent.

 

[rez9000]

As a white man who doesn’t experience racism, I’m speaking from a position of privilege and possibly ignorance, but I really don’t understand Rose’s attitude at times. He’s experienced racism in the form of boos or chants from the crowd a couple of times in his career, and has received the unanimous support of every right thinking person in football in response.

Difficult to imagine Sterling, who has suffered far worse abuse and far more consistently throughout his career, come out with something like this. That lad is going from strength to strength in his career. Rose appears to be going in the opposite direction.

Rose has an attitude problem that goes far beyond any abuse he’s been subject to imho. There are very people in the world who wouldn’t trade places with him given the chance.

Very simply, people are different. People react differently to things.

 

[King of Otters]

Very simply, people are different. People react differently to things.

True, but I don’t understand why abuse from the crowd in a couple of backwater shithole countries should colour your entire experience of the game. It gives the racists more power than they deserve.

 

[Blake Griffin]

danny, danny rozzze.

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

True, but I don’t understand why abuse from the crowd in a couple of backwater shithole countries should colour your entire experience of the game. It gives the racists more power than they deserve.

Are you forgetting the issues we are having in this country?

Just because they aren’t happening directly to Rose doesn’t mean it don’t affect him.

Very weird & simplistic view you have tbh

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

As a white man who doesn’t experience racism, I’m speaking from a position of privilege and possibly ignorance, but I really don’t understand Rose’s attitude at times. He’s experienced racism in the form of boos or chants from the crowd a couple of times in his career, and has received the unanimous support of every right thinking person in football in response.

Difficult to imagine Sterling, who has suffered far worse abuse and far more consistently throughout his career, come out with something like this. That lad is going from strength to strength in his career. Rose appears to be going in the opposite direction.

Rose has an attitude problem that goes far beyond any abuse he’s been subject to imho. There are very few people in the world who wouldn’t trade places with him given the chance.

You might want to read this
https://news.sky.com/story/england-...-enough-football-will-swallow-you-up-11417845

 

[rez9000]

True, but I don’t understand why abuse from the crowd in a couple of backwater shithole countries should colour your entire experience of the game. It gives the racists more power than they deserve.

I hate to be repetitive, but people are different. Maybe Danny feels the abuse more keenly. Or maybe he's not as good as holding his emotions in when it happens. Who knows?

The issue of how one reacts to this sort of thing is very complex. It isn't as simple as being able to have the wherewithal to follow a 100% logical train of thought, especially if one is involved in it.

Or perhaps it's a subject that he feels particularly strongly about. I know there are some subjects that elicit my passion and some that don't.

Ultimately, it's not a simple equation with a simple answer.

 

[tottenmal]

True, but I don’t understand why abuse from the crowd in a couple of backwater shithole countries should colour your entire experience of the game. It gives the racists more power than they deserve.

Did you read the interview? He states he gets their will be racism from these places, he was prepared for it going into this game and wouldn't let it affect him. But football as much as it likes to talk about kicking it out, when it cares more about fining his boss for getting angry on the pitch than instances of racism then he can't see himself having a career in football after his playing days are done. As the politics are to much for him.

 

[rez9000]

The BBC did a series on the murder of Stephen Lawrence last year and interviewed many of those involved in the case. One of them was Imran Khan and he said that the issue with racism was that it was an attack on what someone is, not anything they may have done.

When someone hates you simply because you exist, it's an unbelievably powerful thing to experience. It debases you, it demeans you, it reduces you to one single accident of genetics and birth. It says that nothing you may do in your entire life, none of it matters a single jot because someone has already decided that your place in the universe is wrong in their eyes.

The first time you ever experience that, it can seriously affect you.

 

[charliemouse]

It was only just a month or so ago, Rose was getting noticeably booed really loudly at Burnley from the opening kick-off, so to say racism only occurs in 'backwards shitholes' is way of the mark. Racist fans in England are just better at doing it in a way that doesn't seem overtly racist, when really it obviously is.

Stoke fans are the master of this art, Rose used to get booed there from kick-off to the final whistle, whenever we played Stoke.

 

[Led's Zeppelin]

He's absolutely right.

Banning Pochettino for 2 games for basically fuck all. Handing out yellow cards, even if it's a second one that results in a sending off, for players celebrating goals in one of several "unseemly" ways. And fining clubs and countries guilty of racist abuse a token pittance that makes no difference to them or anyone...

I'm not at all surprised he feels disgusted with it all. Because it is disgusting.

We all enjoy football but there's so much wrong with it, and because we love the game or the club, we turn a blind eye to it because if we didn't, how could we stomach it? From racism to corruption that stares us in the face so openly that half the supporters simply wish their clubs would join in and become a bit more corrupt, as if winning a trophy justifies cheating the game and all the fans of all the other clubs...

I make Danny Rose 100% right, and I applaud him for saying what he said.

 

[Blake Griffin]

It was only just a month or so ago, Rose was getting noticeably booed really loudly at Burnley from the opening kick-off, so to say racism only occurs in 'backwards shitholes' is way of the mark. Racist fans in England are just better at doing it in a way that doesn't seem overtly racist, when really it obviously is.

Stoke fans are the master of this art, Rose used to get booed there from kick-off to the final whistle, whenever we played Stoke.

neither of those instances had anything to do with racism.

 

[charliemouse]

neither of those incidences had anything to do with racism.

Bullshit, Burnley and Stoke fans are notoriously racist.

 

[Typical Spurs]

Bullshit, Burnley and Stoke fans are notoriously racist.

What a ridiculous statement!

I live up north and have a lot of mates who are Stoke fans. They all hate Danny Rose and not one is racist in the slightest.

I think it stems from when we played them away (think it was under Sherwood but may have been Poch) and it was a proper feisty game and Danny was heavily involved. They had a man sent off. He had to be subbed in the end. That might have been over 2 games.

My mates think he's a dirty niggling player. Which is rich given they've got Charlie Adam.

 

[Typical Spurs]

Here you are...

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472707/Danny-Rose-admits-he-lost-his-head-against-Stoke

 

[jay2040]

Surely you factor the racist abuse into the salary you pick up. I'm sure he wouldn't experience the same abuse if working in Tesco but then the wages would not be the same!

 

[Typical Spurs]

It was only just a month or so ago, Rose was getting noticeably booed really loudly at Burnley from the opening kick-off, so to say racism only occurs in 'backwards shitholes' is way of the mark. Racist fans in England are just better at doing it in a way that doesn't seem overtly racist, when really it obviously is.

Stoke fans are the master of this art, Rose used to get booed there from kick-off to the final whistle, whenever we played Stoke.

As I said...
https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472707/Danny-Rose-admits-he-lost-his-head-against-Stoke

 

[Typical Spurs]

Surely you factor the racist abuse into the salary you pick up. I'm sure he wouldn't experience the same abuse if working in Tesco but then the wages would not be the same!

What?!!!

So he's a millionaire, therefore more acceptable for him to be racially abused?

Are you on crack?

 

[Tottenhamboy85]

Surely you factor the racist abuse into the salary you pick up. I'm sure he wouldn't experience the same abuse if working in Tesco but then the wages would not be the same!

What the fuck is wrong with people.

Never seen something so stupid in my life ??‍

 

[Colonel_Klinck]

TBF if he played for another team we'd probably all think he's a bit of a ****. He goes down way too easily and makes so much noise when he does. He's a Spurs player so its fine but it's easy to see why opposition fans dislike him.