I just think it's making a big deal out of very little.
If anything the song is more transphobic.
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Should we sell both players ? To show our stand against racism as well ?Apparently the translation “Listen, spread the word, they play in France, but they are all from Angola, they are going to run well, they like to sleep with trans people, their mum is Nigerian, their dad is Cameroonian, but on the passport it says French.”
The team should be stripped of their title to send a message racism won't be tolerated.
That's because they normal human beings like you and I.... why do some put them on a pedestal. All society has this type of behaviour.Most footballers seem to be so thick.
I didn't realise he spoke such good English. The message is truly from the heart.There is no excuse for these words that I admit are highly offensive, but please bear with me while I make one.
Get in the bin, you twat.
Apparently Romero is clapping 27 seconds in
FWIW the racist part doesn't happen til near the end as far as I can tell they're singing normal songs while these players are on video. There's no video evidence to suggest romero or lo celso sang along with the racist part (although they may have done)Lo Celso seems to be the one dancing standing up directly behind him with 16 on his shorts.
Can our players just not. Just for one week please.
My Nigerian friend says the same thing about the France team tbf. She said the only French people in the French team are Rabiot and Griezman.
Maybe your friend also needs to take a look at themselves?
Thankyou for putting it into the words I could not.I don't think that's fair @robotsonic. @Cochise 's friend might simply regret that some French players with African heritage didn't represent the countries of their parents, or grandparents which could potentially strengthen those national teams. She might feel that these players should honor their parents' or grandparents' countries by representing them in international football.
This situation is similar to an Irish person feeling disappointed that Harry Kane or Declan Rice chose to play for England instead of Ireland. As a second-generation Irish person, I've often been told by Irish people that I’m not English just because I was born in England. The common refrain goes, “just because you were born in a stable, it doesn’t make you a horse.” On the other hand, I've also been called a "plastic paddy." People have varied expectations about national identity!
Admittedly @Cochise 's friend's comment is similar to what the Argentina players are in trouble for - implying you can't be French if you're black. But context is important, and we should try to give people the benefit of the doubt, where possible. As I understand it, the Argentine players' comments were intended to mock and were undeniably racist. Whereas I think @Cochise 's friend could be coming at it from a place of concern about representation and heritage, not from a place of racial exclusion.
Ultimately, everyone should respect the players' right to choose their national affiliation, regardless of their skin colour or their parents' birthplace. At the same time, we should be mindful of the emotional and cultural significance that others may attach to these choices and avoid rushing to condemn them, as long as their perspectives are not rooted in or promoting racism. Nationalism, dual nationality, and the ability to represent ancestral countries often create these kinds of conundrums.
Not the only reason. Football players often miss some lessons in life to develop themselves. They are in their well paid football bubble and even in young age they do not have to worry about much other than their spots in the team.That's because they normal human beings like you and I.... why do some put them on a pedestal. All society has this type of behaviour.
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Well I don't know how it works in Argentina but here and indeed Europe they get far more education regarding this sort of stuff than the average guy in the street. Far far more.Not the only reason. Football players often miss some lessons in life to develop themselves. They are in their well paid football bubble and even in young age they do not have to worry about much other than their spots in the team.
Its obviously racist(the song is also transphobic).One can certainly argue that the song is in bad taste, but to call it racist requires stretching the meaning of the word beyond breaking point. The fact remains that most of the French players are of African heritage, an incontrovertible fact that is evident for all to see.