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Player watch: Christian Eriksen

SpursSince1980

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Perhaps someone here with more insight into how football player contracts work, can answer the following:

Is there a reason why someone in Eriksen's position wouldn't sign, let's say a three year contract, even if he's likely to leave next summer?

Let's say that contract makes him one of the highest paid players at the club. It also stipulates, he'd be compensated for any sign-on fee he would've received, if he had left for free. And lastly, the contract included a clause, that stipulates, should one of the following clubs (Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern, PSG), make a bid of 45-50M, it'll automatically trigger his release.

Wouldn't that be a win-win for everyone involved?

Versus walking away next summer for free, and leaving a very bad taste in everyone's mouth. Not to mention, he'd likely see his role and participation diminished over the season, as that sorta thing doesn't sit well with Poch.

Curious if anyone genuinely knows the rationale behind NOT doing the above?
 

wrd

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Perhaps someone here with more insight into how football player contracts work, can answer the following:

Is there a reason why someone in Eriksen's position wouldn't sign, let's say a three year contract, even if he's likely to leave next summer?

Let's say that contract makes him one of the highest paid players at the club. It also stipulates, he'd be compensated for any sign-on fee he would've received, if he had left for free. And lastly, the contract included a clause, that stipulates, should one of the following clubs (Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern, PSG), make a bid of 45-50M, it'll automatically trigger his release.

Wouldn't that be a win-win for everyone involved?

Versus walking away next summer for free, and leaving a very bad taste in everyone's mouth. Not to mention, he'd likely see his role and participation diminished over the season, as that sorta thing doesn't sit well with Poch.

Curious if anyone genuinely knows the rationale behind NOT doing the above?

Because Aaron fucking Ramsey just got given 400k a week to play for Juventus.
 

wrd

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Yes, I get that. But if there are clauses that offset potential losses, again, isn't that an incentive to sign?

I'd love your scenario to be true if it meant we got the old Eriksen back but ultimately it depends what his agent is in his ear suggesting he can get or what leverage he needs to get the move he wants. I reckon the sticking point will be the release clause, it sounds like we want 50 mill now even though we're in a weak position so a new deal would bump that up. I reckon we'd rather try and get the 50 mill now without paying the sign on etc which might give incentive for other players to try their hand.
 

Trotter

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Perhaps someone here with more insight into how football player contracts work, can answer the following:

Is there a reason why someone in Eriksen's position wouldn't sign, let's say a three year contract, even if he's likely to leave next summer?

Let's say that contract makes him one of the highest paid players at the club. It also stipulates, he'd be compensated for any sign-on fee he would've received, if he had left for free. And lastly, the contract included a clause, that stipulates, should one of the following clubs (Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern, PSG), make a bid of 45-50M, it'll automatically trigger his release.

Wouldn't that be a win-win for everyone involved?

Versus walking away next summer for free, and leaving a very bad taste in everyone's mouth. Not to mention, he'd likely see his role and participation diminished over the season, as that sorta thing doesn't sit well with Poch.

Curious if anyone genuinely knows the rationale behind NOT doing the above?

Yes one big reason, his chances of getting a move to any of the big clubs you state would reduce if they have to pay the transfer fee.
Wherever he ends up he will earn more than "one of our highest earners" on a free, he would earn more then Kane.
What you suggest is not a win-win for everyone involved, its not a win for Eriksen, especially if he wants to better his chances of winning things, which I believe is his main motivation anyway.
 

Hoopspur

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Perhaps someone here with more insight into how football player contracts work, can answer the following:

Is there a reason why someone in Eriksen's position wouldn't sign, let's say a three year contract, even if he's likely to leave next summer?

Let's say that contract makes him one of the highest paid players at the club. It also stipulates, he'd be compensated for any sign-on fee he would've received, if he had left for free. And lastly, the contract included a clause, that stipulates, should one of the following clubs (Barca, Real, Juve, Bayern, PSG), make a bid of 45-50M, it'll automatically trigger his release.

Wouldn't that be a win-win for everyone involved?

Versus walking away next summer for free, and leaving a very bad taste in everyone's mouth. Not to mention, he'd likely see his role and participation diminished over the season, as that sorta thing doesn't sit well with Poch.

Curious if anyone genuinely knows the rationale behind NOT doing the above?
It’s not a win/win for any club who may want to take a punt on CE. Less incentive.
 

nickspurs

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I agree with a lot of this, and I do think we'll see more and more players running down their contracts because it weights a lot of financial benefits in favor of the player, even if it does entail some additional risk. I want to play devil's advocate to the idea of creating a strict "no playing in final year" policy to discourage players running down their contracts.

1) It doesn't really account for older players who are meant to run down their contracts... e.g., I don't think we were ever going to receive a fee for Vorm or Llorente, so the way we (and they) end their contracts is to see them out.
2) The main idea of refusing to use players running down their contract is financial protection, but it really only protects the transfer fee part. It seems like bad financial management to effectively have the final year of all contracts be dead weight. We often have players on 4-5 year deals, so we would kind of saying 20-25% of that contract is dead weight - we'll pay you but not use you for 20-25% of the life of the contract (should it come to that).
3) I also think it could set a bad precedent for future transfers because it's a pretty antagonistic move. I wouldn't want to sign for a club that could see me sit out a year for reasons that might not have anything to do with on-field performance. For players considering several relatively similar offers, a strict policy like this may be what tilts things in favor of signing with another club.
4) I also think it could unsettle the squad every bit as much as the uncertainty of players winding down their contracts. I would expect a frozen out player to be pretty unhappy, and that could translate to friends within the squad. In CE's case, I could see someone like Kane being pretty unhappy if he ends up starved for service a few games knowing the club is paying but refusing to play the person who has provided the most assists for Kane's goals.

Anyway, I think it's a tricky situation and financially disadvantageous for the club, but I also don't think freezing out players is really the solution. I think you play all players with a current contract (assuming they're not causing squad disharmony and are performing up to snuff in training and during games... a whole separate set of issues). We've mostly done a good job of keeping key players on extended contracts.
Good set of counter arguments. I agree that in practice it would create a lot of risk for the club and is antagonistic. I guess we’re all frustrated with what’s playing out with Eriksen. For the most part Levy has done a good job getting our best players to re-sign to longer contracts.
 

CookieYiddo

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Being linked with PSG now, can’t see that happening. If it’s not about money for him, then they have no chance of signing him
 

-Afri-Coy-

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haha mannn I didnt think of that

Show some sympathy man

I don't know what I find funnier, the fact that she left you after a night in the sack or the fact that you're expecting sympathy and compassion on a Spurs forum. :ROFLMAO:
 

Japhet

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Agree but we probably won’t as they would demand such high fees

If this is the way the market is going, and there's plenty to indicate that it is, we need to rethink our rigid pay structure and contract offers. I'm sure there are much better players than Aaron Ramsey at Juve who aren't earning anything close to what he's making but they don't seem to be facing a mass revolt or players downing tools.
 

SamR

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We might lose his transfer fee in lost League position bonuses & CL participation revenue if he goes. We look so shit at the moment i'd be more inclined to keep him for the season and wave goodbye on a free at the end.

He might have sulked a bit, but he has been reasonably professional. Everyone get's a bit humpy when their heart is on something else and who can blame the guy for wanting to go to RM or Barca to see off his career?
 
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We might lose his transfer fee in lost League position bonuses & CL participation revenue if he goes. We look so shit at the moment i'd be more inclined to keep him for the season and wave goodbye on a free at the end.

He might have sulked a bit, but he has been reasonably professional. Everyone get's a bit humpy when their heart is on something else and who can blame the guy for wanting to go to RM or Barca to see off his career?

Well we won't get Top4 if he leaves before the window, as we will never create a chance before New Year.
 

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