Player watch: Christian Eriksen

[Timberwolf]

It's likely BS, but with all the rumors about Real Madrid looking at a 400m spend this summer, they'd reportedly need to sell 300m worth of players to be within FFP.

If that's the case, I'm wondering if we could pull off an Eriksen and Isco swap of sorts. If Lo Celso is not the Eriksen replacement, and IF we still sign him, perhaps Isco could be the makeweight we'd need to see Eriksen go to Real Madrid.

Because, player swaps, y'all!

I don't think I could handle another Isco thread...

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I don't think I could handle another Isco thread...

So summer 2016

 

[KenTHFC]

Can a player with the wrong mentality ever really be a “top player?”

The history of football is littered with talented players with the wrong mentality who never truly realised their potential.

You probably think Neymar is shit then lmao

 

[KenTHFC]

Not really, his performances speak for themselves, he has struggled to grab games by the scruff of the neck for United despite his obvious talents, You can count on one hand the amount of games where Pogba has actually taken the game and dictated it and frankly it's bullshit saying people that don't rate him read the media too much, he's a 90 million pound player and he has failed to live up to that price tag by any measure. He is not close to what Eriksen has done for Spurs.

Pogba’s not close to what Eriksen’s done for us but like I’m amazed at how people like you overrate others just to shit on Pogba. Pogba got 27 G/As in 47 this season, just about one goal contribution every other game but don’t let that spoil your agenda chief. Remember when OGS got to Utd and Pogba was Zidane for about 10-12 games? Obviously Pogba is inconsistent but his best is world class imo.

 

[wrd]

Pogba’s not close to what Eriksen’s done for us but like I’m amazed at how people like you overrate others just to shit on Pogba. Pogba got 27 G/As in 47 this season, just about one goal contribution every other game but don’t let that spoil your agenda chief. Remember when OGS got to Utd and Pogba was Zidane for about 10-12 games? Obviously Pogba is inconsistent but his best is world class imo.

Who have I overrated just to shit on Pogba considering the only player I've mentioned is Eriksen so maybe your amazement is within the argument in your own head.

As you're bringing up stats, Pogba scored 7 penalties compared to Eriksens 0

His goals including the penalties were against:

Leicester
2 against the mighty Brighton
Everton
2 against the mighty huddersfield
2 against the mighty bournemouth
Burnley
2 against the mighty fulham
2 against the mighty West ham

His assists were against

Wolves
Newcastle
Everton
2 against the mighty Cardiff
Bournemouth
Leicester
Crystal Palace
Spurs

So 1 assist vs the top 6, no goals but of the 13 he scored vs the bottom half, 7 were penalties but you're telling me he played like Zidane. Anyway I fail to see your point about me having an agenda when all I said was I don't see how anybody could rate Pogba over Eriksen.

But don't let that get in the way of you talking bollocks kemosabe

 

[SSC]

Pogba’s not close to what Eriksen’s done for us but like I’m amazed at how people like you overrate others just to shit on Pogba. Pogba got 27 G/As in 47 this season, just about one goal contribution every other game but don’t let that spoil your agenda chief. Remember when OGS got to Utd and Pogba was Zidane for about 10-12 games? Obviously Pogba is inconsistent but his best is world class imo.

Not arguing with you directly but for reference. In the premier league last season if you remove penalties (Pogba scored 7).

Both played 35

Goals
- Pogba = 6 (from 105 shots)
- Eriksen = 8 (from 83 shots)

Assists:
- Pogba = 9
- Eriksen = 12

Eriksen is only 11 months older than Pogba so it's not exactly fair for anyone to state that Pogba is this world machine and Eriksen is some above average CM.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

The difference for me is Eriksen isn’t a CM, compare apples with apples. Pogba is far more suited to Madrid than Eriksen at this moment, I’m not even sure how Eriksen would fit into their team. I would say the best move he could make would either be Barcelona to replace Rakitic or City to replace Silva.

 

[SSC]

Or what WRD said

 

[wrd]

The difference for me is Eriksen isn’t a CM, compare apples with apples. Pogba is far more suited to Madrid than Eriksen at this moment, I’m not even sure how Eriksen would fit into their team. I would say the best move he could make would either be Barcelona to replace Rakitic or City to replace Silva.

I disagree on that

Their typical line up is

Navas
Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
Caisemero
Modric Kroos
Asensio Benzema Vinicius

I'd say Eriksen slots perfectly as a modric replacement personally.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

I disagree on that

Their typical line up is

Navas
Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
Caisemero
Modric Kroos
Asensio Benzema Vinicius

I'd say Eriksen slots perfectly as a modric replacement personally.

Personally I disagree, I don’t think he can do the job modric can do. Modric is a far superior player playing a deep lying role, Eriksen can play there but for me he’s bang average in that position, he’s best when deployed as a 10 and can influence the game further forward.

I always thought he’d end up there but has shown very little to suggest he can do a job there at the highest level.

 

[Indacupfortottenham]

Would love him to have a change of heart and sign a new deal, slight hope is if he only wants Madrid and the offer never arrives - clutching I know, there is probably already a que of teams like Bayern waiting in the wings.
He is world class for me and about to hit his peak, his boots will take some filling that’s for sure!

 

[morriss]

I know they’re different types of player but I’d use the money for Zaha.

 

[KenTHFC]

Who have I overrated just to shit on Pogba considering the only player I've mentioned is Eriksen so maybe your amazement is within the argument in your own head.

As you're bringing up stats, Pogba scored 7 penalties compared to Eriksens 0

His goals including the penalties were against:

Leicester
2 against the mighty Brighton
Everton
2 against the mighty huddersfield
2 against the mighty bournemouth
Burnley
2 against the mighty fulham
2 against the mighty West ham

His assists were against

Wolves
Newcastle
Everton
2 against the mighty Cardiff
Bournemouth
Leicester
Crystal Palace
Spurs

So 1 assist vs the top 6, no goals but of the 13 he scored vs the bottom half, 7 were penalties but you're telling me he played like Zidane. Anyway I fail to see your point about me having an agenda when all I said was I don't see how anybody could rate Pogba over Eriksen.

But don't let that get in the way of you talking bollocks kemosabe

Pogba > Eriksen. Sorry mate not getting shifted on it wrdup

 

[BringBack_leGin]

The difference for me is Eriksen isn’t a CM, compare apples with apples. Pogba is far more suited to Madrid than Eriksen at this moment, I’m not even sure how Eriksen would fit into their team. I would say the best move he could make would either be Barcelona to replace Rakitic or City to replace Silva.

So he’s not a CM but should move to Barcelona to replace someone who plays in CM, or City to replace someone who plays CM?

 

[wrd]

Pogba > Eriksen. Sorry mate not getting shifted on it wrdup

Please inject this into my veins.

 

[JayB]

Who is "better" between the two of them is largely irrelevant -- they play different roles IMO and it certainly appears to be the case that Zidane wants Pogba, which is great news for us.

 

[Joshua shepherd]

So he’s not a CM but should move to Barcelona to replace someone who plays in CM, or City to replace someone who plays CM?

Yeah because city and Barca play exactly the same way as Madrid ??

 

[C0YS]

The difference for me is Eriksen isn’t a CM, compare apples with apples. Pogba is far more suited to Madrid than Eriksen at this moment, I’m not even sure how Eriksen would fit into their team. I would say the best move he could make would either be Barcelona to replace Rakitic or City to replace Silva.

Exactly they play different roles and different positions. Madrid need a CM, quite desperately. Pogba might not be that player, but Eriksen sure as hell is not. Because he plays in a different position.

On a seperate point 7 goals from open play and 9 assists from CM is a pretty incredible record that I'm not sure many players in his position could match. The problem is those stats mask major weaknesses of his game, often he shows a lack of focus, and is very erratic. Some games he looks a world beater others he looks terrible. A CM is a position that you really want someone who is constantly a 7 out of ten, not some one who bounces between 4s and 9s. So while Pogba's stats show one thing, it doesn't actually show erratic he really is.

However, Madrid will see three things. Firstly, his massive ability. Get that to work you have one of the worlds best. Secondly, playing in a less intense league, meaning more space, and more options on the ball, might suit him a bit more. Thirdly, they have casemiro who could do the dirty work that will allow Pogba to shine.

Now, its a very English thing to judge players based on how they did for their previous club rather what they could contribute for another club. Pogba might not fit in in Man utd but might fit Real Madrid much better. Its about finding the right tool.

Personally, while I'd wish him well, I don't really see how Eriksen could be successful at Madrid, I just don't see where he fits into the team, and how he would cope with the demands there. I see how Pogba could actually be a very big signing for them, though I don't think he will be. He does make more sense than Eriksen.

For what its worth very little is being talked about regarding Eriksen in Spain, and a lot of Madrid fans I speak to, who originally really wanted him, have seemingly gone off him after his Ajax and liverpool performances. If he goes I suspect it will be late in the window, and because Madrid failed to get their bigger targets.

 

[spursfan77]

Exactly they play different roles and different positions. Madrid need a CM, quite desperately. Pogba might not be that player, but Eriksen sure as hell is not. Because he plays in a different position.

On a seperate point 7 goals from open play and 9 assists from CM is a pretty incredible record that I'm not sure many players in his position could match. The problem is those stats mask major weaknesses of his game, often he shows a lack of focus, and is very erratic. Some games he looks a world beater others he looks terrible. A CM is a position that you really want someone who is constantly a 7 out of ten, not some one who bounces between 4s and 9s. So while Pogba's stats show one thing, it doesn't actually show erratic he really is.

However, Madrid will see three things. Firstly, his massive ability. Get that to work you have one of the worlds best. Secondly, playing in a less intense league, meaning more space, and more options on the ball, might suit him a bit more. Thirdly, they have casemiro who could do the dirty work that will allow Pogba to shine.

Now, its a very English thing to judge players based on how they did for their previous club rather what they could contribute for another club. Pogba might not fit in in Man utd but might fit Real Madrid much better. Its about finding the right tool.

Personally, while I'd wish him well, I don't really see how Eriksen could be successful at Madrid, I just don't see where he fits into the team, and how he would cope with the demands there. I see how Pogba could actually be a very big signing for them, though I don't think he will be. He does make more sense than Eriksen.

For what its worth very little is being talked about regarding Eriksen in Spain, and a lot of Madrid fans I speak to, who originally really wanted him, have seemingly gone off him after his Ajax and liverpool performances. If he goes I suspect it will be late in the window, and because Madrid failed to get their bigger targets.

I agree, which is a real problem for us because we will want the certainty of the Eriksen cash. I suspect we are either pushing him to sign a contract ASAP or sort a move out for himself ASAP and that’s what prompted his interview last week.

 

[Led Revolver]

All this talk that Eriksen had a bad season.. whilst his performances weren’t as exciting as seasons before, he still finished with the 3rd highest amount of assists in the PL. I’d say we could do with more bad seasons from players like this!

I’m also surprised to see that we haven’t seen more links to Ryan Fraser. 2nd most assists last season, young, homegrown, 1 year left on his contract.

Too much emphasis has been placed on straight forward replacing players, Ndombele for Dembele etc.. We need to replace them, but we also need to improve the quality of the depth of our squad to improve as well.