Player watch: Christian Eriksen

JKendall13

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Every window it's we can't buy unless players go out, but now we can't sell unless we already have a replacement. Levy-22.
 

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Since it's gotten a lot of attention I thought I'd explain for those unfamiliar, the whole "tier" system derives from Reddit, where the football forum has over 1.2 million members representing probably every single club on the planet. The whole idea is that judging the credibility of any given journalist involves far too many variables for any one person to have a grasp of, so crowdsourcing it on a club-by-club basis is the best way to get a handle on it.

At Spurs, for instance, most people who follow recruitment closely would be able to tell you that Dan KP was absolutely 100% spot on in the summer transfer window and should be considered highly credible, whereas your average supporter of any other club wouldn't have the slightest clue about Dan KP in particular.

The same dynamic is true for just about every club and the journalists covering it. Supporters know who is and is not worth listening to, and share that with the wider football community by labeling them with a tier ranking for their reporting on any given club. There's one reporter, Pedulla I think it is, who is considered Tier 1 for anything involving Sarri but considered far less credible for any other club. Followers of Sarri's clubs would know that, others would not. That's the kind of information the system exists to convey.

So one random bloke on Twitter unilaterally assigning tiers to reporters is worse than useless, it actively undermines the entire purpose of the idea, which is that crowdsourcing is necessary.
 

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Since it's gotten a lot of attention I thought I'd explain for those unfamiliar, the whole "tier" system derives from Reddit, where the football forum has over 1.2 million members representing probably every single club on the planet. The whole idea is that judging the credibility of any given journalist involves far too many variables for any one person to have a grasp of, so crowdsourcing it on a club-by-club basis is the best way to get a handle on it.

At Spurs, for instance, most people who follow recruitment closely would be able to tell you that Dan KP was absolutely 100% spot on in the summer transfer window and should be considered highly credible, whereas your average supporter of any other club wouldn't have the slightest clue about Dan KP in particular. The same dynamic is true for just about every club and the journalists covering it. Supporters know who is and is not worth listening to, and share that with the wider football community by labeling them with a tier ranking for their reporting on any given club. There's one reporter, Pedulla I think it is, who is considered Tier 1 for anything involving Sarri but considered far less credible for any other club. Followers of Sarri's clubs would know that, others would not. That's the kind of information the system exists to convey.

So one random bloke on Twitter unilaterally assigning tiers to reporters is worse than useless, it actively undermines the entire purpose of the idea, which is that crowdsourcing is necessary.
Could you repeat that, I was grating my testicle?
 

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Imagine if Jose has been playing the media since that first time he rejected the suggestion he'd be interested in Bruno Fernandes and, in fact, that's who 'our target' is we want in before Eriksen goes. In the summer I'm pretty sure Bruno was connected to seeing Eriksen leave. Wishful thinking but would be nice
 

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Making Lo Celso permanent is Eriksen's replacement.
You didn't think we were gonna go out and get a whole new player, did you...
Well we were told all summer that Lo Celso wasn't a replacement for Eriksen and we will get an additional player and quite frankly I believe everything I read on the internet and will go into a blind rage should I found out that isn't true.
 

mil1lion

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I'm not convinced we'll look for another like him. The creativity will come from Ndombele and Lo Celso with Winks and Fernandes competing.
 

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Great player on his day, but those days vanished over a year ago. Sorry to see the old Eriksen go but pleased this recent Eriksen is going.

We move onwards and upwards.
 

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Well we were told all summer that Lo Celso wasn't a replacement for Eriksen and we will get an additional player and quite frankly I believe everything I read on the internet and will go into a blind rage should I found out that isn't true.
We were also told that building the new stadium wouldn’t affect transfers every window from 2017-2019.
 

WiganSpur

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Since it's gotten a lot of attention I thought I'd explain for those unfamiliar, the whole "tier" system derives from Reddit, where the football forum has over 1.2 million members representing probably every single club on the planet. The whole idea is that judging the credibility of any given journalist involves far too many variables for any one person to have a grasp of, so crowdsourcing it on a club-by-club basis is the best way to get a handle on it.

At Spurs, for instance, most people who follow recruitment closely would be able to tell you that Dan KP was absolutely 100% spot on in the summer transfer window and should be considered highly credible, whereas your average supporter of any other club wouldn't have the slightest clue about Dan KP in particular.

The same dynamic is true for just about every club and the journalists covering it. Supporters know who is and is not worth listening to, and share that with the wider football community by labeling them with a tier ranking for their reporting on any given club. There's one reporter, Pedulla I think it is, who is considered Tier 1 for anything involving Sarri but considered far less credible for any other club. Followers of Sarri's clubs would know that, others would not. That's the kind of information the system exists to convey.

So one random bloke on Twitter unilaterally assigning tiers to reporters is worse than useless, it actively undermines the entire purpose of the idea, which is that crowdsourcing is necessary.
The problem with this is how can we actually be sure if a journalist had made up bullshit? Just because a club didn't sign a player it doesn't necessarily mean the report was BS. I'd imagine a lot of deals are close but don't end up happening for whatever reason. There's also a big difference between a journalist saying 'Spurs are interested in X' than saying 'Spurs are about to sign X' if you see what I mean.
 

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Clutching a little bit (a lot) reckon the way Mourinho’s mocked that Gary Cotteril In his last few interviews for going to Lisbon to report on Fernandes to United deal.. that we could be working on that as Eriksen’s replacement?? His smug smile at the end is like a you know absolutely nothing
 

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Can't remember where I read it ( on here or BBC) but I am sure I seen something saying we would use the money from Eriksen sale for a DM or Forward, and not replace him?
 

JayB

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The problem with this is how can we actually be sure if a journalist had made up bullshit? Just because a club didn't sign a player it doesn't necessarily mean the report was BS. I'd imagine a lot of deals are close but don't end up happening for whatever reason. There's also a big difference between a journalist saying 'Spurs are interested in X' than saying 'Spurs are about to sign X' if you see what I mean.
The idea is that supporters of specific clubs come to understand which reporters are reliable when discussing their club, and then share that information with others. It’s not some hard-and-fast guarantee that literally everything reported by a so-called “Tier 1” journo will come off or that anything reported by a low-tier journalist is necessarily false.

Do you think it’s beyond the capacity of Spurs supporters to make judgements as to the reliability of Dan KP or Alli Gold versus, say, Lyal Thomas?

It’s a general guideline telling you whether a report is worth giving credence to or whether it’s likely to be bullshit, nothing more. Anyone taking it as gospel is misunderstanding where it comes from and what purposes it serves.
 
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