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Player watch: Christian Eriksen

fishhhandaricecake

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Some sounds like his poor form due to being wanting out is only the past 12-18 months. Good grief. Just look through this thread - probably only 2 out of the 6 years he's with us he was great. The rest he just didn't perform as well as he could, especially during the period he was under the criticism of performing alot better for his country than his club. And even then his country coach was asking for more consistency from him.

He has gotten everyone in the world to believe he is really that great, and hardworking on-field for the matter. I don't doubt his stats, which also came during the best two years he had with us. Is no coincident we were the best when he was the best. So many times it was absolutely infuriating because his form literally determines our results and on his bad days we suffered. He was that influential. A legend would be, if he could go the extra mile, knowing he could carry the team and win us something, but like he always does, just did the bare minimum. Not as if he didn't know how he can affect the team. If he doesn't care, why should we?

Just remember, even at his best, no big teams came in for him with concrete interest. Almost like a karma of working just enough, his dream and opportunities of a big move also stop short of the next breakthrough.
Only 2 out of 6 years he performed for us, really come on... i get that the last 12 months or so he's maybe dropped off because he's looking for his move and trying to not get injured but that's completely normal. If you knew you were going to be making your big career move you'd also not go in for needless tackles to lessen the chance of a bad injury, he's been our key creator for about 4 of the last 6 seasons!

2013/14 - 7 goals 9 assists (first season!) didn't even play that often
2014/15 - 10 goals 4 assists
2015/16 - 6 goals 16 assists
2016/17 - 8 goals 20 assists
2017/18 - 11 goals 10 assists
2018/19 - 8 goals 12 assists

That is double figures for goals or assists and over 20 combined in at least 4/6 of the seasons, those are outrageous numbers, i bet there are only a handful of players who even come close to those figures.
He was absolutely class for us for a long time, i'm sorry but this short sightedness towards one of our best ever prem midfielders is ridiculous.

We will miss him when he’s gone just like we did Modric for example.
 
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gerishep

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I'm not really that interested in his past stats. He's not been interested in playing for us for the last 2 years. He doesn't tackle, I'm not sure I've ever seen him tackle, he goes missing in games its like playing with 10 men. His goal return isn't all that and I hope I don't have to see him in a Spurs shirt again.
 

yiddopaul

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Don't know about that. I feel pretty bad for Ryan Mason.
Well, yeah. Obviously that was tragic. No-one wants to see any player, whoever they play for have a career ending injury. I'm talking players that don't get their move and people feel sorry for them. Or they don't get what they feel they deserve.
 

Japhet

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He even made a tackle about 6 weeks ago

I remember the very incident and commented on it at the time. I said something like

'He even made a tackle, but to be fair to him he'd only just come on and I think he probably just mis-timed it'.
 

dagraham

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Only 2 out of 6 years he performed for us, really come on... i get that the last 12 months or so he's maybe dropped off because he's looking for his move and trying to not get injured but that's completely normal. If you knew you were going to be making your big career move you'd also not go in for needless tackles to lessen the chance of a bad injury, he's been our key creator for about 4 of the last 6 seasons!

2013/14 - 7 goals 9 assists (first season!) didn't even play that often
2014/15 - 10 goals 4 assists
2015/16 - 6 goals 16 assists
2016/17 - 8 goals 20 assists
2017/18 - 11 goals 10 assists
2018/19 - 8 goals 12 assists

That is double figures for goals or assists and over 20 combined in at least 4/6 of the seasons, those are outrageous numbers, i bet there are only a handful of players who even come close to those figures.
He was absolutely class for us for a long time, i'm sorry but this short sightedness towards one of our best ever prem midfielders is ridiculous.

I agree totally about the revisionist nonsense being written, but it’s not quite true that playing half arsed is the default option for anyone that’s going to leave. See Ramsey at Arsenal and Modric for us in their last years.

He’s been phoning it in for the last 12 months which is a shame as it’s tarnished things a bit even though I don’t blame him at all for wanting to leave.
 

glacierSpurs

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Only 2 out of 6 years he performed for us, really come on... i get that the last 12 months or so he's maybe dropped off because he's looking for his move and trying to not get injured but that's completely normal. If you knew you were going to be making your big career move you'd also not go in for needless tackles to lessen the chance of a bad injury, he's been our key creator for about 4 of the last 6 seasons!

2013/14 - 7 goals 9 assists (first season!) didn't even play that often
2014/15 - 10 goals 4 assists
2015/16 - 6 goals 16 assists
2016/17 - 8 goals 20 assists
2017/18 - 11 goals 10 assists
2018/19 - 8 goals 12 assists

That is double figures for goals or assists and over 20 combined in at least 4/6 of the seasons, those are outrageous numbers, i bet there are only a handful of players who even come close to those figures.
He was absolutely class for us for a long time, i'm sorry but this short sightedness towards one of our best ever prem midfielders is ridiculous.
Eriksen has been great for us no doubt in the past few seasons. But is a fact he has been shit for more than a year, not putting in the commitment when times and again the gaffers, two gaffers in fact, consistently played him. I honestly don't see his past great performance as any redeeming factor for his atrocious form now. If we know he can be better, why are we condoning his current drop of form? It is not an issue of short-sightedness, but the implication of setting the team above oneself in a team sport. He could be protecting himself so to be in the best state he can be when unveiled at another club, but not putting the team result above his personal agenda is just selfish and detrimental to the squad morale.

Is ridiculous for another player like Dier who always gave his best but given the sticks left, right, centre. But I know who deserves my greatest respect out of these two.
 

parj

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That's a bit unfair. Generally he's been poor, but he scored that free kick against Norwich a couple of weeks ago, he's played a few excellent passes and I've even seen him clear the ball a few times in the last few games. I agree that he probably doesn't deserve to be selected at the moment, but it seems that people are ignoring anything good that he does.

Serge Aurier has 6? assists and a goal.... I still don't want him at right back.

Eriksen free kick and goal against villa are some of the few highlights. He had been poor and the little good he has done does not mask the dreadful performances. I spoke to a few United fans today and they wouldn't have been happy signing the Eriksen that played Boro. The one from 18 months ago, absolutely, but not this one.

He has been awful, and if it was a new signing we wouldn't want him in the team.
 

Gassin's finest

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Eriksen has been great for us no doubt in the past few seasons. But is a fact he has been shit for more than a year, not putting in the commitment when times and again the gaffers, two gaffers in fact, consistently played him. I honestly don't see his past great performance as any redeeming factor for his atrocious form now. If we know he can be better, why are we condoning his current drop of form? It is not an issue of short-sightedness, but the implication of setting the team above oneself in a team sport. He could be protecting himself so to be in the best state he can be when unveiled at another club, but not putting the team result above his personal agenda is just selfish and detrimental to the squad morale.

Is ridiculous for another player like Dier who always gave his best but given the sticks left, right, centre. But I know who deserves my greatest respect out of these two.
It really isn't..
 

mil1lion

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Best Tottenham team for several decades
Nah maybe the most underachieving team for several decades
As a team I’ve really enjoyed watching us for a while but they achieved less than George Graham’s team and Juande Ramos team all said and done
Of course that isnt down to Eriksen but nah top four trophies don’t count
They allowed us to dream I’ll give them that and as I said it was enjoyable to witness
Please tell me you're not suggesting the Ramos and Graham teams were better than the Poch one because they won the league cup? WOW

To suggest Poch underachieved is unreal. It just shows how delusional some of our fans can be (to think our fans call Liverpool fans delusional). We're really not as big as people seem to think we are. With the resources he had we 100% overachioeved. We're a similar level to Everton and Villa yet look where we are compared to them now largely thanks to Poch. The 80s sounded special, I was just a kid then so really have the past 30 years to go on. The Poch team was by far the best I've watched followed by Redknapp, so no trophies and mid-table just dont compare.
 

morris25

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Why would inter pay to get him now, tbeu have secured his signature, they won't lose him by waiting. If they pay €20m that's will cost them €1m per game. Pointless
 

Haddock

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Regarding Eriksen form or lack there of - you need to put it in a wider context. And in that wider context this Spurs team, as a collective, hasn't been playing well for the past 18 months.

In fact, similarly to Eriksen, the vast majority of our players have all more or less regressed. In fact the only player who has actually taken a step forward during this period is probably Sissoko, maybe Lucas as well. Rose, Alderweireld, Vertonghen, Dier, Alli, Winks, Eriksen. They've all dropped their performances massively during this period. Kane and Son can hold there heads high because of individual / MOTM performances - but as a team, as a collective, we haven't been good for a very long time.

It fits the narrative to make Eriksen the villain because he's adamant to leave but we should be equally concerned with the players who's adamant to stay and doesn't perform. We can't be making excuses for certain players and then single out others if it's indeed a collective performance drop.

That said, I wish he'd leave ASAP as well. It's just a lot rewriting of the past in this thread right now and lack of a wider perspective.
 

Steffen

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If Eriksen goes now, I'll give him props for that. He could get a massive sign on fee if he just waits 5 more months, going now shows it's not about the money.
 

OPModric

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If Eriksen goes now, I'll give him props for that. He could get a massive sign on fee if he just waits 5 more months, going now shows it's not about the money.

It's pretty obvious it's not about money. He has said no to a huge new contract from us many times.
 

Tomorrowland

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Only 2 out of 6 years he performed for us, really come on... i get that the last 12 months or so he's maybe dropped off because he's looking for his move and trying to not get injured but that's completely normal. If you knew you were going to be making your big career move you'd also not go in for needless tackles to lessen the chance of a bad injury, he's been our key creator for about 4 of the last 6 seasons!

2013/14 - 7 goals 9 assists (first season!) didn't even play that often
2014/15 - 10 goals 4 assists
2015/16 - 6 goals 16 assists
2016/17 - 8 goals 20 assists
2017/18 - 11 goals 10 assists
2018/19 - 8 goals 12 assists

That is double figures for goals or assists and over 20 combined in at least 4/6 of the seasons, those are outrageous numbers, i bet there are only a handful of players who even come close to those figures.
He was absolutely class for us for a long time, i'm sorry but this short sightedness towards one of our best ever prem midfielders is ridiculous.

We will miss him when he’s gone just like we did Modric for example.

When you’re the sole creative midfielder in a team of peak in-form Dele/Son/Kane and you take almost every corner/free kick, would you not expect lots of goals and assists?

His stats are good but they’re completely without context. He’s had no competition, never injured because he never puts himself out and playing in a free-scoring team.
 

JCRD

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I'm not really that interested in his past stats. He's not been interested in playing for us for the last 2 years. He doesn't tackle, I'm not sure I've ever seen him tackle, he goes missing in games its like playing with 10 men. His goal return isn't all that and I hope I don't have to see him in a Spurs shirt again.

Modric doesnt tackle...

There are players out there who dont go into tackles but cut down the angel for a pass therefore intercepting it. We cant judge players because he doesnt tackle

He hasnt been infallable far from it but he is the kind of player to assist the assist maker as it were... and that to me has been crucial. He hasnt had the best year or so but as som have said to say he hasnt tried i think is a tad unjustifiable. He has consistently been up there as someone who has run the most and worked hard.
 
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