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It's all a bit echo-chamber for want of a better word where Eriksen is concerned now, people are just saying the same things over and over and its very circular in nature and to be honest, it's gotten boring now so the sooner he goes the better.

Him allowing himself to be like this is one issue. The club allowing it to get to this stage is another, more unexplored issue. So, rather than persist with the done to death 'this is how much I hate Eriksen' or 'this is how much of a **** Eriksen is' line of thinking, why not slag off the club for allowing it to get this far.

He should have been sold 2 years to 18 months ago when it started to become clear he wasn't going to sign a new deal, certainly the club should have a cut-off point, a deadline, signed by that time or we cut our losses kind of thing. People are going to say that's easy to say and it is. Easy to say, easy to do. There would have been takers as well.

Who's actually to blame? Pochettino? Levy? My guess is its possibly 50/50. But, seeing as people expect me to say it, I'll go for Levy. The buck stops there. Anyway, there you go, just for a change of pace........:D

*runs away
 
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It's all a bit echo-chamber for want of a better word where Eriksen is concerned now, people are just saying the same things over and over and its very circular in nature and to be honest, it's gotten boring now so the sooner he goes the better.

Him allowing himself to be like this is one issue. The club allowing it to get to this stage is another, more unexplored issue. So, rather than persist with the done to death 'this is how much I hate Eriksen' or 'this is how much of a **** Eriksen is' line of thinking, why not slag off the club for allowing it to get this far.

He should have been sold 2 years to 18 months ago when it started to become clear he wasn't going to sign a new deal, certainly the club should have a cut-off point, a deadline, signed by that time or we cut our losses kind of thing. People are going to say that's easy to say and it is. Easy to say, easy to do. There would have been takers as well.

Who's actually to blame? Pochettino? Levy? My guess is its possibly 50/50. But, seeing as people expect me to say it, I'll go for Levy. The buck stops there. Anyway, there you go, just for a change of pace........:D

*runs away

Agree. I think ITK mentioned that he was offered multiple improved contracts, but he never signed. So the club should have acted waaaay faster. I'm sure there was takers, he was the most creative player in the PL.

I think it might be slightly different with Toby for example because he's 30 years old, and that's where, according to Rose, we want to sell our players.
 

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He should have been sold 2 years to 18 months ago when it started to become clear he wasn't going to sign a new deal, certainly the club should have a cut-off point, a deadline, signed by that time or we cut our losses kind of thing. People are going to say that's easy to say and it is. Easy to say, easy to do. There would have been takers as well.

That's all well and good, as long as you wouldn't also criticise Levy for selling our best players.
 

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That's all well and good, as long as you wouldn't also criticise Levy for selling our best players.
I wouldn't dare to criticise Levy at all. Ever ummm.gif
 
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It's all a bit echo-chamber for want of a better word where Eriksen is concerned now, people are just saying the same things over and over and its very circular in nature and to be honest, it's gotten boring now so the sooner he goes the better.

Him allowing himself to be like this is one issue. The club allowing it to get to this stage is another, more unexplored issue. So, rather than persist with the done to death 'this is how much I hate Eriksen' or 'this is how much of a **** Eriksen is' line of thinking, why not slag off the club for allowing it to get this far.

He should have been sold 2 years to 18 months ago when it started to become clear he wasn't going to sign a new deal, certainly the club should have a cut-off point, a deadline, signed by that time or we cut our losses kind of thing. People are going to say that's easy to say and it is. Easy to say, easy to do. There would have been takers as well.

Who's actually to blame? Pochettino? Levy? My guess is its possibly 50/50. But, seeing as people expect me to say it, I'll go for Levy. The buck stops there. Anyway, there you go, just for a change of pace........:D

*runs away
Ivory tower stuff here.

Be better.
 
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Is it fuck, it's a fair enough question

YOU be better. Jesus Christ.
Sell you're top player at the peak of his powers like he had done to so many managers before (considering this one is the best of his whole tenure) Vs keeping him about and then discovering why you have sold high the entire time as the players power becomes apparent.

Still after all these years I can draw a line in Levy and his wrong doings and things he has done right - this is a rock and a hard place moment and not sure what else could be done.

Backed his manager kept the player about and offered him the earth and the player fucks is all off.

Eriksen can fuck off.
 

Col_M

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Maybe Eriksen has seen the writing on the wall wrt Brexit and Boris and is just preparing to move abroad. Does anyone blame him?
 

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Maybe Eriksen has seen the writing on the wall wrt Brexit and Boris and is just preparing to move abroad. Does anyone blame him?

The alternative being Corbyn taxing the shit out of the super rich, and the whole fucking team moving abroad ;).
 

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It's all a bit echo-chamber for want of a better word where Eriksen is concerned now, people are just saying the same things over and over and its very circular in nature and to be honest, it's gotten boring now so the sooner he goes the better.

Him allowing himself to be like this is one issue. The club allowing it to get to this stage is another, more unexplored issue. So, rather than persist with the done to death 'this is how much I hate Eriksen' or 'this is how much of a **** Eriksen is' line of thinking, why not slag off the club for allowing it to get this far.

He should have been sold 2 years to 18 months ago when it started to become clear he wasn't going to sign a new deal, certainly the club should have a cut-off point, a deadline, signed by that time or we cut our losses kind of thing. People are going to say that's easy to say and it is. Easy to say, easy to do. There would have been takers as well.

Who's actually to blame? Pochettino? Levy? My guess is its possibly 50/50. But, seeing as people expect me to say it, I'll go for Levy. The buck stops there. Anyway, there you go, just for a change of pace........:D

*runs away


If you got back two years, A&C, there were still quite a few people that saw him as the messiah. Infact it was Levy, even back then, that was taking the blame for everything (so nothings changed? Infact Im surprised why they didn't blame Levy for Lasagnagate)
Really I dont think the fans would have accepted Eriksen being sold at that time. One problem was definately Poch. Eriksen to me was the only playmaker we had for a long time (I wasnt a big fan to be honest I never saw him as a game changer) but he was the only playmaker we had and if playmaking was important for Poch why didnt he get Levy to buy one or two more,it couldnt have been important for Poch...as well all Pochs bravado and chest beating he wasnt someone who could confront Levy to get what he needed.
 

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If you got back two years, A&C, there were still quite a few people that saw him as the messiah.
Yeah, they probably did, but I'm suggesting that there has to be a point where if negotiations aren't progressing, a decision is made to replace and sell. See below, I think we failed on both fronts.

Really I dont think the fans would have accepted Eriksen being sold at that time.
Not so sure about that, Levy would have (IMO) not been backwards in letting it be known the reasons for the sale, you'd for sure get a few who would be upset but only if we sold and didn't replace, again see below.......

One problem was definately Poch. Eriksen to me was the only playmaker we had for a long time (I wasnt a big fan to be honest I never saw him as a game changer) but he was the only playmaker we had and if playmaking was important for Poch why didnt he get Levy to buy one or two more
Now we're talking.........Did Poch ask, did Levy fail? As I said, there's probably questions to be asked regarding the approach both took to this.

Whichever way we argue around it, at the end of the day, (IMO) it's got to be seen as a failure, a mistake. From someone at the club and as the buck stops with Levy then obviously he's included. How people can see letting what was probably a 60 million pound asset (if not more) walk away for free as understandable or unavoidable is beyond me. There's bound to be some criticism or questions asked.

No ivory was used in the writing of this post ;)
 
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Whichever way we argue around it, at the end of the day, (IMO) it's got to be seen as a failure, a mistake. From someone at the club and as the buck stops with Levy then obviously he's included. How people can see letting what was probably a 60 million pound asset (if not more) walk away for free as understandable or unavoidable is beyond me. There's bound to be some criticism or questions asked.

No ivory was used in the writing of this post
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Nah, plenty of flannel though! ;)

If he sold him, he'd have been beaten with the usual 'selling club' and 'not backing the manager' stick - doesn't matter who beats him with it, I'll bet my left bollock it would have happened.

Once Eriksen leaves on a free there will be some clamour we don't pay the going rate for wages for top players again - right bollock.

Both bollocks on one player.

It's the most wonderful time of the year ... :whistle:
 

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Whichever way we argue around it, at the end of the day, (IMO) it's got to be seen as a failure, a mistake. From someone at the club and as the buck stops with Levy then obviously he's included. How people can see letting what was probably a 60 million pound asset (if not more) walk away for free as understandable or unavoidable is beyond me. There's bound to be some criticism or questions asked.

No ivory was used in the writing of this post ;)

I don't think the fans would have accepted it at that time without a creative replacement with at least the same level of status. Pochs system didnt help the force of open football that would have supported the type of freedom than a creative player would need either
 

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Nah, plenty of flannel though! ;)

If he sold him, he'd have been beaten with the usual 'selling club' and 'not backing the manager' stick - doesn't matter who beats him with it, I'll bet my left bollock it would have happened.

Once Eriksen leaves on a free there will be some clamour we don't pay the going rate for wages for top players again - right bollock.

Both bollocks on one player.

It's the most wonderful time of the year ... :whistle:
Yes, losing out on a multi-million pound asset is exactly the thing to do because of what some people on SC would have said. I'm pretty sure Levy doesn't factor SC's spunk trumpets into his thinking.

And once Eriksen leaves on a free there will be nothing but good riddance, so you just lost your right bollock :D
 

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I don't think the fans would have accepted it at that time without a creative replacement with at least the same level of status.
That's what I'm saying! He should have anticipated and acted. Had he done so, he could have offset any fee with the Eriksen money. Instead we'll get nothing and have a player on our hands that's about as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking contest.

Again, how that can be seen as excusable, understandable or unavoidable eludes me. But then again, as I get older a lot of other things pass me by too so perhaps I shouldn't be surprised :D
 
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Yes, losing out on a multi-million pound asset is exactly the thing to do because of what some people on SC would have said. I'm pretty sure Levy doesn't factor SC's spunk trumpets into his thinking.

And once Eriksen leaves on a free there will be nothing but good riddance, so you just lost your right bollock :D
... Nah the right one is intact, Levy doesn't factor the SC's spunk trumpets thinking into my metaphorical bet to myself ... Online.
 
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Long and short of it is, he didn't do what he did in the past to other prime players and carpets under managers feet and he got burned - so in future he should sell them when it's clear they won't sign a new contract, swallow the damning verdicts that he doesn't care about and buy four Clinton N'jie's.
 

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That's what I'm saying! He should have anticipated and acted. Had he done so, he could have offset any fee with the Eriksen money. Instead we'll get nothing and have a player on our hands that's about as much use as a one legged man in an arse kicking cont

Again, how that can be seen as excusable, understandable or unavoidable eludes me. But then again, as I get older a lot of other things pass me by too so perhaps I shouldn't be surprised :D

To me it was Pochs fault more than Levys. And that's all according to how you see their relationship. Levy is not a footie bloke.He is a business man. Poch is the one with the ideas and strategy and needs. He just has to provide Levy with on the field success.
If he has that responsibility then he should make sure he has the players that could bring that. If he doesnt,he has to prove to Levy that what he believes is the way to go. Every step of the way its seems they were in cahoots. Even Poch didnt have the players say,he indicated they were in it together. That is until he started to lose. So of course Poch being Poch would never blame himself. He had partners in the Tottenham fans who also thought Levy was the convenient problem. But the fact is of Poch was as brave as he acted he would have put his job on the line earlier to get what he needed.
Mourinho is a different kettle of fish. After the romance part goes he will tell Levy exactly what he wants as he is a true warrior.
So to me,even the Eriksen situation and lack of creativity is down to Poch,not Levy. Stand by what you need or be a factory worker and blame the boss was Pochs choice. He chose the latter. And if he did go to Levy at the end it was too late. When you play like crap for two years,despite the CL final etc,you lose licence not gain it.
 
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