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Player Watch - Carlos Vinícius

Dr Benson

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Agreed. I really wish they'd do a program about that-- even if just a Spurs TV-one. I mean literally a 30-min exploration into how teams (or just Spurs) handle incomings with next to zero knowledge of English and- as you said- when and how the worm turns for them and they start speaking English passably- if not well. I have SO many questions on that front-- I find the whole business fascinating. And that doesn't even touch those players who move from their (non-English speaking country to some far-flung planet (like, say, some Brazilian who winds up playing in, say, Bulgaria or whathaveyou. I mean think about that! At least w/English everybody's heard some; picture if all of a sudden you have to go from Korean to Albanian or whatever! And crazily enough that does happen! Especially Brazilians; there are SO MANY excellent players there that even their third tier guys end up getting paid somewhere...

But back to Spurs: how do we do it? Do we have them take classes at night immediately- from the off? And how does, say, Lo Celso listen to Mourinho's excellent- but still heavily accented- English in a pre-game pep-talk? I always wonder what he's thinking-- because honestly a few words here and there are difficult for me to understand-- and I'm a Yank!

I really really really wish someone would shoot a film just about the language barrier(s) in soccer and how they're worked out-- it's just such a fascinating subject. Lastly, I wonder who would win the "picked up English the fastest-award" on Spurs over the last- say- 20 years-- and conversely, who had the most trouble bridging the language gap. To that end-- I wonder if one of our players literally was ever actually held back because he couldn't grasp some instruction one of our managers gave him?!? Like some head-scratching play occurred and as we sat there dumbfounded as to what just happened what none of us knew is that player X didn't get the instructions from the gaffer correctly- hence the error.

I really wonder about the "school"-thing, and whether or not that's optional. I also am curious as to how many players never formally learned English but rather just picked it up simply from being around the team, living in the UK, and just doing it- kind of like how a child learns a language.
Maybe Bale can tell some more about how they do it`?
 

Cornpattbuck

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Got a good feeling about this one.

Had no idea who he was when the link first arrived, but his obvious physicality coupled with a surprisingly deft touch bodes well.

His welcome blurb is impressive too.

I think we've added another fighter with a bit of ability. ?
 
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Basil Brush

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Not sure if it has been touched on in this thread, but Wolves would be filthy with this deal. They were very keen on Carlos.

Has Mendes dumped them for us? The relationship with him obviously comes with positives and negatives, but mostly positive so far.

I still can't get over the loan fee, and option in our favour.
 

kmk

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Not sure if it has been touched on in this thread, but Wolves would be filthy with this deal. They were very keen on Carlos.

Has Mendes dumped them for us? The relationship with him obviously comes with positives and negatives, but mostly positive so far.

I still can't get over the loan fee, and option in our favour.

No Mendes has got players like Semedo to sign for them.
 

mdharris

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Similar with Mexican Spanish and proper Spanish.
Having lived in Spain and now living in Mexico, Id say they are not very different at all. Spanish and Mexicans understand each other very easily. There are certainly expressions and word usage that may be different, but you can pick that up pretty quickly from context. The MX gf agrees as well.

Brasilian portuguése and Portugal portugese I guess may have bigger differences, though.

CV45 looks great. Best transfer window that I can remember.
 
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Montalbano

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Him choosing the number 45 shirt has already massively triggered my squad number OCD.

Disappointing start, Vini.
 

spursfan77

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I hope they don’t tell Donna Cullen what people were saying about her a couple of weeks back. ?

What where they saying?

Whenever I’ve heard her she seems to be one of the more engaged members of the board with the fans. Especially in the club’s dealings with the trust anyway. I might be wrong but doesn’t she help run the Foundation too and did a lot of work on the new stadium.
 

curlacious

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Realistically we all know we won’t exercise the option to buy CV next year, right? Not at that price anyway.

Saw a report that says we’ve told Milik’s agent that we want to sign him from Napoli for free next summer.

So CV for a year For 3million, Milik long term.

Sounds like a very Levy-style plan.
 

Yiddo100

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Realistically we all know we won’t exercise the option to buy CV next year, right? Not at that price anyway.

Saw a report that says we’ve told Milik’s agent that we want to sign him from Napoli for free next summer.

So CV for a year For 3million, Milik long term.

Sounds like a very Levy-style plan.
There is every chance we will buy him next year
 

thebenjamin

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Realistically we all know we won’t exercise the option to buy CV next year, right? Not at that price anyway.

Saw a report that says we’ve told Milik’s agent that we want to sign him from Napoli for free next summer.

So CV for a year For 3million, Milik long term.

Sounds like a very Levy-style plan.

Obviously it depends how well he does
 
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