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felmani26

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Different scenario. Those are all relatively minor injuries compared to some that Neto had and it is also something that can be quite common with 18-21 year olds as they are still growing.
But the fact stands that there was legitimate injury concerns and City still pursued him.
 

Nick-TopSpursMan

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Neto’s knee injury was a freak thing and the ankle injury just bad luck, neither of those injuries concern me too much as he doesn’t seem to have any long term damage from them.

The only injuries that concern me are the hamstring injuries as they have recurred. That’s where the risk is. It’s exactly the same for Olise btw.
 

roy@SC

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The injuries are a concern. But he still managed to play 24 times for Wolves last season. For comparison purposes, van de Ven played 29 times for us last season, Bentancur played 24 times, and 26 this previous season.
And that inadvertently proves the point not to sign him in my opinion. Injuries to key players completely derailed our season last year. (Add in Romero suspensions) neto is a 3month injury off the bat in the making.
 

Guntz

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Neto is such a baller and is tailor made for Ange’s system.

I don’t think there’s another winger like him in the league when he’s fit.

I can see why Ange wants him, but of course the injuries are a massive worry.
 

talkshowhost86

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The injuries are a concern. But he still managed to play 24 times for Wolves last season. For comparison purposes, van de Ven played 29 times for us last season, Bentancur played 24 times, and 26 this previous season.
The Bentancur comparison is exactly why I'd be wary about spending the money on Neto.

We can't rely on Lolo because of his injuries. Not his fault at all and he's great when he's at his best, but how many of those games he's even played in has he been fully fit?

If we could get some degree of certainty on Neto's fitness I'd be 100% behind it.

But all evidence points to him being an injury waiting to happen which is a concern if we're looking at 50m plus.
 

Farmdog

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Neto is such a baller and is tailor made for Ange’s system.

I don’t think there’s another winger like him in the league when he’s fit.

I can see why Ange wants him, but of course the injuries are a massive worry.
He is perfect I totally agree.
can play either side and takes on players wide and inside.
Him crossing and the likes of Jonathan David (one of most efficient goal scorers out there) would be an amazing opportunity
 

Hertsspur10

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On the injury front to give some balance to it, a fracture to the kneecap which he missed 297 days for doesn't make him injury prone. Its firstly, really rare and just extremely unlucky. In the same manner, rolling his ankle doesn't either which was his 2nd major injury.

This season he suffered injury to both hamstrings. Now for an explosive player like him this is could be deemed slightly more of a concern. With that said, it would be slightly more concerning if the same hamstring were to break down repeatedly.

For Neto, the right hamstring was injured after a run of playing 6 games in February and it was 1 minute into the 2nd half of the match. We are always most concerned about hamstrings in the first few minutes of a game, the first few minutes of the second half and the last period of the game once fatigued. Gary O'Neil actually took a risk on him in that game as it was said Neto was fatigued and was feeling his hamstring after their Newcastle game in the match prior. His minutes should have been managed and he probably should have sat the Fulham game out where he became injured.

This leaves us with the left hamstring injury he suffered in October and he missed a couple of months for. Which has been a fairly regular occurrence for lots of players since the 2022 world cup.

Interestingly met with the West Ham and Chelsea Sports Dr's last week and we discussed hamstrings a lot since there's been a huge uptick in injuries to them in the past 2 seasons across the league.

So I would say Neto has had a very unfortunate injury history, but given the context of them all I don't think this will put a top side from taking a chance on him as they'll be confident in dealing with the hamstring management given its a focus of a lot of medical departments this summer.
 

djhotspur

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Neto’s knee injury was a freak thing and the ankle injury just bad luck, neither of those injuries concern me too much as he doesn’t seem to have any long term damage from them.

The only injuries that concern me are the hamstring injuries as they have recurred. That’s where the risk is. It’s exactly the same for Olise
Exactly this.
And that inadvertently proves the point not to sign him in my opinion. Injuries to key players completely derailed our season last year. (Add in Romero suspensions) neto is a 3month injury off the bat in the making.
Agreed but what other options are there? He’s the exact profile we need, prem proven, and adds significant danger to the front line. 50m it’s not a lot of money in this day and age for all that. If our squad is strong enough to carry one injury then it’s ok. If he is a starter with Johnson etc being the rotation I think we are strong enough there.
The top talents want bigger clubs and bigger wages and even all the best young talents are getting so many options and a lot are picking places they’ll start
 

Hazelton

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Messi always struggled with injuries when he was young, as did Iniesta. Robben too. Sometimes players can be labelled injury prone and then put it past them, the same way we could buy a player with no injury record and they may develop injuries down the line. It's always a risk, as long as he passes the medical and no major issues present themselves then we should pursue it IMO.
 

spursfan77

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I don't think that's a fair comparison. Injury wise it's a massive risk, but his quality and work rate are unquestionable and any manager would be happy to inherit him I'm sure.

If he didn't have his injury issues he's probably be at an elite club already, probably Man City.

But he does have the injury issues, hence like Man City, we shouldn’t be looking at signing him.
 

Scot-Spur

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A incentive based deal would be best for us, smaller outlay upfront but bigger payment if he plays.
 

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On the injury front to give some balance to it, a fracture to the kneecap which he missed 297 days for doesn't make him injury prone. Its firstly, really rare and just extremely unlucky. In the same manner, rolling his ankle doesn't either which was his 2nd major injury.

This season he suffered injury to both hamstrings. Now for an explosive player like him this is could be deemed slightly more of a concern. With that said, it would be slightly more concerning if the same hamstring were to break down repeatedly.

For Neto, the right hamstring was injured after a run of playing 6 games in February and it was 1 minute into the 2nd half of the match. We are always most concerned about hamstrings in the first few minutes of a game, the first few minutes of the second half and the last period of the game once fatigued. Gary O'Neil actually took a risk on him in that game as it was said Neto was fatigued and was feeling his hamstring after their Newcastle game in the match prior. His minutes should have been managed and he probably should have sat the Fulham game out where he became injured.

This leaves us with the left hamstring injury he suffered in October and he missed a couple of months for. Which has been a fairly regular occurrence for lots of players since the 2022 world cup.

Interestingly met with the West Ham and Chelsea Sports Dr's last week and we discussed hamstrings a lot since there's been a huge uptick in injuries to them in the past 2 seasons across the league.

So I would say Neto has had a very unfortunate injury history, but given the context of them all I don't think this will put a top side from taking a chance on him as they'll be confident in dealing with the hamstring management given its a focus of a lot of medical departments this summer.
Excellent informative post. Makes a lot of sense. I'm sure VAR has also played a significant part in the increased volume of hamstring injuries with the long periods of inactivity mid match.
 

McFlash

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I thought the whole point of the behind the scenes set up was to avoid the scenario where we were just buying the players the manager wants?

Feels like the kind of signing who might help end up losing the manager his job. We’ve been here before with Poch and Ndombele. ETH and Anthony is similar.
I thought the set up was to provide the manager a list of players and then he picks from that, which pretty much seems to be what we're doing and for me, is the right way to go about it.

We've seen countless times and at countless clubs that thrusting players on a manager doesn't work.

The idea of having a recruitment team is that they all work together and the manager has to be a part of that.
 

funkycoldmedina

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On the injury front to give some balance to it, a fracture to the kneecap which he missed 297 days for doesn't make him injury prone. Its firstly, really rare and just extremely unlucky. In the same manner, rolling his ankle doesn't either which was his 2nd major injury.

This season he suffered injury to both hamstrings. Now for an explosive player like him this is could be deemed slightly more of a concern. With that said, it would be slightly more concerning if the same hamstring were to break down repeatedly.

For Neto, the right hamstring was injured after a run of playing 6 games in February and it was 1 minute into the 2nd half of the match. We are always most concerned about hamstrings in the first few minutes of a game, the first few minutes of the second half and the last period of the game once fatigued. Gary O'Neil actually took a risk on him in that game as it was said Neto was fatigued and was feeling his hamstring after their Newcastle game in the match prior. His minutes should have been managed and he probably should have sat the Fulham game out where he became injured.

This leaves us with the left hamstring injury he suffered in October and he missed a couple of months for. Which has been a fairly regular occurrence for lots of players since the 2022 world cup.

Interestingly met with the West Ham and Chelsea Sports Dr's last week and we discussed hamstrings a lot since there's been a huge uptick in injuries to them in the past 2 seasons across the league.

So I would say Neto has had a very unfortunate injury history, but given the context of them all I don't think this will put a top side from taking a chance on him as they'll be confident in dealing with the hamstring management given its a focus of a lot of medical departments this summer.
Thanks for this. This is the kind of detail and due diligence I'm sure we're doing and discussing if we can mitigate that with rotation and rest which we should be doing with all positions if we have a well put together squad.
 

SpartanSpur

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But he does have the injury issues, hence like Man City, we shouldn’t be looking at signing him.

Unlike Manchester City, we can't cherry pick the very best players on the market. We have to compromise. So it's either taking a chance on Neto's injury record if we want proven quality or trusting our scouting setup by unearthing some gems from Europa/EC level clubs on the continent.
 

JonnySpurs

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I'll nail my colours to the mast;

Neto over Eze.

I'll nail my colours to the mast;

Neto AND Eze ;)

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