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Ron Burgundy

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We have to get him or someone like him - it’s our attack that will let us down this year

Right now, it’s only Johnson I’m particularly happy with
 

ajspurs

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We have to get him or someone like him - it’s our attack that will let us down this year

Right now, it’s only Johnson I’m particularly happy with

It was very obvious at multiple stages last season that the front three was where we were mostly being let down, and nothing has changed.

I agree with what @13VanDerBale13 has been saying regarding Werner, but it's also the reason why I didn't want us to sign him as I know how much the level in our attack needs to be raised, and we only have so much space in those positions to achieve that. Despite that, I think if Werner and Johnson are the backup options, with 2 new additions (including Neto) ahead of them though, then I think that's a pretty solid list of options really. Especially as Son is there if need be for the left too.
 

spursfan77

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As much as I agree that I want to add Neto, Werner is more than serviceable. He’s a good squad option to have.

Not for me. The people disagreeing with my post above will all be cursing him in the match threads or his thread when he misses chance after chance this season I guarantee it. It’s like they didn’t even watch him last year. Amazing.
 

BorjeSpurs

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Not for me. The people disagreeing with my post above will all be cursing him in the match threads or his thread when he misses chance after chance this season I guarantee it. It’s like they didn’t even watch him last year. Amazing.
Werner is one of our more divisive players in the squad. Plenty of people on here agree with your reservations on Werner.

The neg reactions is for the tone and overly negative post, at half time, in a pre-season friendly.
 

Trix

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Not for me. The people disagreeing with my post above will all be cursing him in the match threads or his thread when he misses chance after chance this season I guarantee it. It’s like they didn’t even watch him last year. Amazing.
No they won't. I certainly won't anyway, not as long as he's creating chances for others. I've made my peace with the fact he's not a finisher, and as long as he's contributing in a positive way I'll get behind him. If he plays regularly(and it's a big if) I think he'll get around 15 or so goals and assists, mostly assists.
 

GlennHuddlestone

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No they won't. I certainly won't anyway, not as long as he's creating chances for others. I've made my peace with the fact he's not a finisher, and as long as he's contributing in a positive way I'll get behind him. If he plays regularly(and it's a big if) I think he'll get around 15 or so goals and assists, mostly assists.
Especially with Brenan getting in to the box on the far post more this season.
 

mil1lion

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Not for me. The people disagreeing with my post above will all be cursing him in the match threads or his thread when he misses chance after chance this season I guarantee it. It’s like they didn’t even watch him last year. Amazing.
Nobody is safe in the match thread
 

el_principe

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I don’t understand one thing. We used to target really top top high profile players such as Lautaro, Dybala, Luis Diaz, Vlahovic, Cuti Romero.

Now we seemed/seem to target either unproven talented youngsters like Doue, Antonio Nusa OR second tier players (those who don’t start for their NT) like Eze, Toney, or Neto (all are back ups of their NT). We did the same when we got the likes of Porro, Vicario, Van De Ven (very good player though).

I mean where is the club ambition? The real top tier attackers like Nico Williams, Dani Olmo, Julian Alvarez, Xavi Simmons, and soon if PSG get Osimhen, Muani and Ramos will be available. I know no guarantee we will get them but why not at least try? I mean Eze or Toney are good players but with the same amount of money (or even less), we can try Nico Williams or Dani Olmo or Julian Alvarez for example.
 

Pochemon94

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I don’t understand one thing. We used to target really top top high profile players such as Lautaro, Dybala, Luis Diaz, Vlahovic, Cuti Romero.

Now we seemed/seem to target either unproven talented youngsters like Doue, Antonio Nusa OR second tier players (those who don’t start for their NT) like Eze, Toney, or Neto (all are back ups of their NT). We did the same when we got the likes of Porro, Vicario, Van De Ven (very good player though).

I mean where is the club ambition? The real top tier attackers like Nico Williams, Dani Olmo, Julian Alvarez, Xavi Simmons, and soon if PSG get Osimhen, Muani and Ramos will be available. I know no guarantee we will get them but why not at least try? I mean Eze or Toney are good players but with the same amount of money (or even less), we can try Nico Williams or Dani Olmo or Julian Alvarez for example.
price and it takes two to tango. Right now in order to get those bottom listed guys we would have to pay a lot in fee and agent fees plus they will probably have to be put on wages that would destroy the structure. Xavi simmons for instance would probably want 200k per week if not more and if we give it to him, what does that mean for the rest of our midfielders? we would have to bump them all up to not create locker room problems.

I don't mind going for who we are going after, it can be extremely helpful in building a squad. We should be buying players that fit our system not players that have big names.
 

rabbikeane

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You mention a lot of players who are also "second tier" talent for their NT. Muani, Ramos, Dybala, Olmo up until euros. Neto and Eze are the best in the PL at doing what they do, albeit flawed due to their fitness issues.
 

GlennHuddlestone

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I don’t understand one thing. We used to target really top top high profile players such as Lautaro, Dybala, Luis Diaz, Vlahovic, Cuti Romero.

Now we seemed/seem to target either unproven talented youngsters like Doue, Antonio Nusa OR second tier players (those who don’t start for their NT) like Eze, Toney, or Neto (all are back ups of their NT). We did the same when we got the likes of Porro, Vicario, Van De Ven (very good player though).

I mean where is the club ambition? The real top tier attackers like Nico Williams, Dani Olmo, Julian Alvarez, Xavi Simmons, and soon if PSG get Osimhen, Muani and Ramos will be available. I know no guarantee we will get them but why not at least try? I mean Eze or Toney are good players but with the same amount of money (or even less), we can try Nico Williams or Dani Olmo or Julian Alvarez for example.
Firstly how do you know we haven't targeted them ? We may have been rebuffed at an early stage that made a pursuit a waste of time so we didn't do that- and that can be for many reasons including no being in the champions league.

Secondly it's more affordable and the players are more likely more gettable.

Thirdly we have adjusted our approached to a data driven one - and from just the 3 you mentioned (vdv, vicario, porro) the data driven approach is working well so far. It's no surprise that we have similar targets to Brighton who are regularly scouting and bringing in players that improve quickly and burst on to the scene.

When I think back to the history of the premier League, it's been the lesser known players that have made the biggest impacts

Henry, Vieira, Salah, even anelka etc they weren't they stars they started out as
 

Ben1

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I don’t understand one thing. We used to target really top top high profile players such as Lautaro, Dybala, Luis Diaz, Vlahovic, Cuti Romero.

Now we seemed/seem to target either unproven talented youngsters like Doue, Antonio Nusa OR second tier players (those who don’t start for their NT) like Eze, Toney, or Neto (all are back ups of their NT). We did the same when we got the likes of Porro, Vicario, Van De Ven (very good player though).

I mean where is the club ambition? The real top tier attackers like Nico Williams, Dani Olmo, Julian Alvarez, Xavi Simmons, and soon if PSG get Osimhen, Muani and Ramos will be available. I know no guarantee we will get them but why not at least try? I mean Eze or Toney are good players but with the same amount of money (or even less), we can try Nico Williams or Dani Olmo or Julian Alvarez for example.
Missed out on 4/5 and got pissed about by at least 3 of them who didn’t really want Spurs. Everything Ange has said about incoming targets suggests he isn’t about that game. There’s a reason we’ve beaten teams to players recently, we’ve clearly done the work on the personality. There are limits when finding players that desperately want to play for the club outside CL.

For example, we could spend the summer chasing Williams, but it would end with him going to Barca (with our help moving it along).
 
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