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Who do you want as next Spurs manager?

  • Allegri

    Votes: 214 21.5%
  • Mourinho

    Votes: 258 25.9%
  • Wenger

    Votes: 9 0.9%
  • Pleat

    Votes: 4 0.4%
  • Ten Hag

    Votes: 54 5.4%
  • Wagner

    Votes: 1 0.1%
  • Howe

    Votes: 36 3.6%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 75 7.5%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 16 1.6%
  • Keep Poch (lol)

    Votes: 166 16.6%
  • Rodgers

    Votes: 49 4.9%
  • de Boer (Poch mk2)

    Votes: 3 0.3%
  • Benitez

    Votes: 50 5.0%
  • Sherwood

    Votes: 6 0.6%
  • Bus-Conductor

    Votes: 26 2.6%
  • Goat (ffs)

    Votes: 6 0.6%
  • WalkerBoyUK’s lad’s u14 coach

    Votes: 8 0.8%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 7 0.7%
  • Marco Rose

    Votes: 4 0.4%
  • freeeki

    Votes: 5 0.5%

  • Total voters
    997
  • Poll closed .
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shelfboy68

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Guess it depends on peoples version of success. Some want entertaining football or great facilities others want to win things. All boils down to whether you believe the last 5 years to have been successful or not.

Not so sure about Poch giving us our self respect back as we were on the up and up a few years prior to his arrival compared to previous years. Couple that with the fact that just being a Spurs fan is enough in itself. We are one only 5 teams I believe to have been in the PL since its inception and have a pretty decent reputation in club football going back decades.
The main issue is we don't win anything and that is what always gets thrown my way by fans of rival clubs, we flatter to deceive but other clubs laugh at us because we always fall flat on our faces.
I was talking about this with a family member last weekend when we were discussing the acceptance along with starting to lose interest in the club because it looks like we are stuck with poch and years of chasing the big boys again.
Nothing will change whilst the structure of ownership is in place unfortunately there is no sign of them wanting to sell so the club so we remain financially strong but weak on glory.
 

shelfboy68

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What kind of aids is this forum infected with at the moment. Actual THFC fans begging for a CFC man through and through to become our manager over the man who gave you your self respect back as a THFC fan. Your current manager has shown he has the ability to build a team. He has tried to build a new one but our beloved owners are shafting him at every turn and now you lot are turning against him. Yes it's not been great this calendar year but if anyone deserves time to turn things around in my 40 years of supporting THFC then it's this man but you knee jerking twats are calling for his head. I couldn't give a flying fuck if i get neg repped to death but some of you lot deserve no success at all the way you're behaving.

Never have i felt so disillusioned as a THFC fan than now because of the behaviour of some of our fans on social media. I barely come on here now as the knee jerking is pathetic. Funny thing is i never senes this apathy at THFC aways. Thankfully the hardcore are fully behind the man as we have really seen shit with our own eyes to know what it really looks like.
If he is being shafted as your say then why doesn't he resign and find a club that will support him, I think he is as much a part of the problem as the owners in fact was there not itk offered up saying that poch refused player's so maybe he is to blame also.
 
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Nothing will change whilst the structure of ownership is in place unfortunately there is no sign of them wanting to sell so the club so we remain financially strong but weak on glory.

I find myself confused by this kind of statement, I have to say.

If we put the facts together, we know the following:

- ENIC started buying land since the first few years of owning the club. It took, I think, about 14 years for them to buy all the land and move (no help from Archway), so they must have identified that as a long term strategy. It's quite a big investment that few teams in the PL would have even considered.
- The training ground has been developed into one of the best around (in the world?).
- The main infrastructure has also been improved with all the college and stuff.
- The stadium has been built to a high level of passion/detail. It's worlds apart from things like the Olympic Stadium with stickers and claret carpet.
- Clubs which invest only on the pitch tend to have very temporary effects (plenty of which have had a harder bounce-back)
- We've only just finished all the above, and that was followed up with committing to, I think, two record transfers for us

As much as anyone might not like ENIC, it's not like there isn't a strategy or reasoning for anything that has occurred. Our worst attribute in that way is that we have a sensible ownership.

Going forwards will be very different, as we won't have an excuse of logical reason for not taking the club forwards on the pitch. I don't think we can judge that though, as there are the things above that simple 'make sense'.

This is why I think if we have another manager soon, it'll be telling as to what direction they take. A 'project' manager made sense 5 years ago with what we were planning to do, but you'd expect that they might want someone next who will simply take the club up a level.

I simply don't think we can predict what will happen though as it's an entirely new situation we've not been in before with their ownership.
 

allatsea

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I find myself confused by this kind of statement, I have to say.

If we put the facts together, we know the following:

- ENIC started buying land since the first few years of owning the club. It took, I think, about 14 years for them to buy all the land and move (no help from Archway), so they must have identified that as a long term strategy. It's quite a big investment that few teams in the PL would have even considered.
- The training ground has been developed into one of the best around (in the world?).
- The main infrastructure has also been improved with all the college and stuff.
- The stadium has been built to a high level of passion/detail. It's worlds apart from things like the Olympic Stadium with stickers and claret carpet.
- Clubs which invest only on the pitch tend to have very temporary effects (plenty of which have had a harder bounce-back)
- We've only just finished all the above, and that was followed up with committing to, I think, two record transfers for us

As much as anyone might not like ENIC, it's not like there isn't a strategy or reasoning for anything that has occurred. Our worst attribute in that way is that we have a sensible ownership.

Going forwards will be very different, as we won't have an excuse of logical reason for not taking the club forwards on the pitch. I don't think we can judge that though, as there are the things above that simple 'make sense'.

This is why I think if we have another manager soon, it'll be telling as to what direction they take. A 'project' manager made sense 5 years ago with what we were planning to do, but you'd expect that they might want someone next who will simply take the club up a level.

I simply don't think we can predict what will happen though as it's an entirely new situation we've not been in before with their ownership.
The only way to consistently wins things in the modern age is to have an owner where the value of money has no meaning.
 
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The only way to consistently wins things in the modern age is to have an owner where the value of money has no meaning.

Well, either that or one where such obscene funds are self sufficient. United make enough money to afford it tbh
 

DelBoyN17

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Is Mourinho spotted in North London yet?

Mourinho will never take the spurs job, he’s openly said the next project will need to provide him with the same tools as what pep & Klopp have & their disposal in terms of ambition to win major titles & financial backing, let’s face it that’s never happening under Levy’s watch ........
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
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Mourinho will never take the spurs job, he’s openly said the next project will need to provide him with the same tools as what pep & Klopp have & their disposal in terms of ambition to win major titles & financial backing, let’s face it that’s never happening under Levy’s watch ........
Can you link to these quotes?
 

shelfboy68

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Mourinho will never take the spurs job, he’s openly said the next project will need to provide him with the same tools as what pep & Klopp have & their disposal in terms of ambition to win major titles & financial backing, let’s face it that’s never happening under Levy’s watch ........
If that is the case then this can be ticked off the list because he won't get the tools here to win titles.
 

bubble07

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Dec 27, 2004
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What kind of aids is this forum infected with at the moment. Actual THFC fans begging for a CFC man through and through to become our manager over the man who gave you your self respect back as a THFC fan. Your current manager has shown he has the ability to build a team. He has tried to build a new one but our beloved owners are shafting him at every turn and now you lot are turning against him. Yes it's not been great this calendar year but if anyone deserves time to turn things around in my 40 years of supporting THFC then it's this man but you knee jerking twats are calling for his head. I couldn't give a flying fuck if i get neg repped to death but some of you lot deserve no success at all the way you're behaving.

Never have i felt so disillusioned as a THFC fan than now because of the behaviour of some of our fans on social media. I barely come on here now as the knee jerking is pathetic. Funny thing is i never senes this apathy at THFC aways. Thankfully the hardcore are fully behind the man as we have really seen shit with our own eyes to know what it really looks like.

Agree but Poch is doing himself no favours pretty much everytime he talks to the press
 

Japhet

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The main issue is we don't win anything and that is what always gets thrown my way by fans of rival clubs, we flatter to deceive but other clubs laugh at us because we always fall flat on our faces.
I was talking about this with a family member last weekend when we were discussing the acceptance along with starting to lose interest in the club because it looks like we are stuck with poch and years of chasing the big boys again.
Nothing will change whilst the structure of ownership is in place unfortunately there is no sign of them wanting to sell so the club so we remain financially strong but weak on glory.


Keep hearing this 'nothing will change' mantra. It's as if we haven't just moved into a 60k+ capacity stadium with matchday revenues to compete with the elite, haven't just spent 100m+ in the last transfer window and shipped out a load of dead wood and don't have the best training facilities bar none. This has just come to fruition in the last 12 months so there has been very little opportunity to reassess where we stand. Maybe a little bit of patience wouldn't go amiss. Man City were given a gargantuan cash boost and threw it at everything, but I seem to remember us pipping them to a CL place. They didn't hit the big time overnight either.
 

shelfboy68

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Keep hearing this 'nothing will change' mantra. It's as if we haven't just moved into a 60k+ capacity stadium with matchday revenues to compete with the elite, haven't just spent 100m+ in the last transfer window and shipped out a load of dead wood and don't have the best training facilities bar none. This has just come to fruition in the last 12 months so there has been very little opportunity to reassess where we stand. Maybe a little bit of patience wouldn't go amiss. Man City were given a gargantuan cash boost and threw it at everything, but I seem to remember us pipping them to a CL place. They didn't hit the big time overnight either.
We spent 100m but so what clubs like west ham and Fulham do that's probably the basic rate of spend now but you forgot to mention that for two windows we spent fuck all which was criminal.
As for patience let's not get started on that became we have been more than patient since ENIC took over and now it looks like we take years to try and get back amongst it again during which time previous we didn't win anything anyway.(n)
 

Japhet

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We spent 100m but so what clubs like west ham and Fulham do that's probably the basic rate of spend now but you forgot to mention that for two windows we spent fuck all which was criminal.
As for patience let's not get started on that became we have been more than patient since ENIC took over and now it looks like we take years to try and get back amongst it again during which time previous we didn't win anything anyway.(n)


I'm optimistic that we've entered a new era with much higher earnings and turnover. I was suggesting that in view of this a bit of patience wouldn't go amiss until we get fully up to speed. We have had 1 transfer window since this happened. Players contracts have been improved significantly and we bought a player most thought was well beyond our reach. Of course, if you want to view the present through the lens of the past with low wages, zero net spend, cheap signings etc that's your business, but I personally don't think that way or see it as a stick to beat eNIC, Levy, Lewis or anyone else with.
 

fecka

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Mourinho will never take the spurs job, he’s openly said the next project will need to provide him with the same tools as what pep & Klopp have & their disposal in terms of ambition to win major titles & financial backing, let’s face it that’s never happening under Levy’s watch ........

I watched that interview and in that same interview he states it's not that he requires money but proper players and backing him with the right ones when needed just like it was with klopp and pep. Not like United where woodward wouldn't listen and just got him a superstar here and there without thinking about the right fit which in the end never really improved the team.
 

VancouverSpur

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We’re gonna lose Mourinho to woolwich and Allegri to United because Levy’s far too slow to pull the trigger, arent we?
How times have changed that we are getting nervous about losing out on Mourinho or Allegri....its all a bit sad.

Interesting that up until now Levy would not be considered trigger shy when it comes to firing managers but Poch will last a lot longer than perhaps he normally would.
 

Gb160

Well done boys. Good process
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We’re gonna lose Mourinho to woolwich and Allegri to United because Levy’s far too slow to pull the trigger, arent we?
No.
Although Id love either, its much more likely it'll be because they won't work under the financial restraints that come with managing Spurs.
 
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