Next Spurs Manager

Who do you want as next Spurs manager?

  • Allegri

    Votes: 181 25.4%
  • Mourinho

    Votes: 144 20.2%
  • Wenger

    Votes: 10 1.4%
  • Pleat

    Votes: 4 0.6%
  • Ten Hag

    Votes: 33 4.6%
  • Wagner

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Howe

    Votes: 22 3.1%
  • Nagelsmann

    Votes: 31 4.3%
  • Other (explain)

    Votes: 15 2.1%
  • Keep Poch (lol)

    Votes: 161 22.5%
  • Rodgers

    Votes: 31 4.3%
  • de Boer (Poch mk2)

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Benitez

    Votes: 34 4.8%
  • Sherwood

    Votes: 3 0.4%
  • Bus-Conductor

    Votes: 24 3.4%
  • Goat (ffs)

    Votes: 8 1.1%
  • WalkerBoyUK’s lad’s u14 coach

    Votes: 5 0.7%
  • Sissoko

    Votes: 5 0.7%

  • Total voters
    714
  • Poll closed .

SugarRay

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I think Poch has taken us quite a long way personally.
They both did. Jol was the start of the new era imo. He gave us plenty to be proud of. Before Jol we didn’t finish top 6 in any of the previous 14 or 15 seasons ( with 1 European campaign )
Since him we’ve finished top 6 in 12 of the last 14 seasons ( with 13 European campaigns )

Poch has threatened to take the final step, but it’s the most difficult one to make.
 

allatsea

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They both did. Jol was the start of the new era imo. He gave us plenty to be proud of. Before Jol we didn’t finish top 6 in any of the previous 14 or 15 seasons ( with 1 European campaign )
Since him we’ve finished top 6 in 12 of the last 14 seasons ( with 13 European campaigns )

Poch has threatened to take the final step, but it’s the most difficult one to make.
It certainly is when you don't have virtually unlimited funds to spend.
 

'O Zio

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:) I know what you mean, but loving past managers hasn't gotten us anywhere (Jol and Poch).
I just don't understand this attitude. Jol took us from being a bang-average at best mid-table team to being basically the clear "best of the rest" outside the CL places. Poch has then taken us from being the "best of the rest" to being consistently top 4/CL-place finishers, occasionally flirting with a title challenge, and even to a CL final which nobody could've even dreamed of.

I just don't understand how people can brush that off as not achieving anything purely on the basis that we didn't win some poxy <insertsponsornamehere> Cup that nobody gives a fuck about. Just baffling.
 

Spurslove

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I just don't understand this attitude. Jol took us from being a bang-average at best mid-table team to being basically the clear "best of the rest" outside the CL places. Poch has then taken us from being the "best of the rest" to being consistently top 4/CL-place finishers, occasionally flirting with a title challenge, and even to a CL final which nobody could've even dreamed of.

I just don't understand how people can brush that off as not achieving anything purely on the basis that we didn't win some poxy <insertsponsornamehere> Cup that nobody gives a fuck about. Just baffling.
You completely mis-understand the point I was making. I'm not even remotely bothered about winning the Carabao Cup or even the FA Cup any more. What I want, after nearly 60 years of following THFC is to see us win the Premier League and become English champions.

As much as I loved Burkenshaw, Jol and Redknapp for what they gave us all as fans in terms of pure excitement, we were nowhere near becoming champions way back then and now, all these years later, we're still nowhere near it, even with what I consider to be our greatest manager since Billy Nick in charge. So loving those guys is one thing, but it gets us nothing.

Ever since the silly money turned up making financially doped clubs out of Chelsea and City, we've been also-rans in the Premier League title race and I hate it. That's what I meant.

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'O Zio

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You completely mis-understand the point I was making. I'm not even remotely bothered about winning the Carabao Cup or even the FA Cup any more. What I want, after nearly 60 years of following THFC is to see us win the Premier League and become English champions.

As much as I loved Burkenshaw, Jol and Redknapp for what they gave us all as fans in terms of pure excitement, we were nowhere near becoming champions way back then and now, all these years later, we're still nowhere near it, even with what I consider to be our greatest manager since Billy Nick in charge. So loving those guys is one thing, but it gets us nothing.

Ever since the silly money turned up making financially doped clubs out of Chelsea and City, we've been also-rans in the Premier League title race and I hate it. That's what I meant.

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Sorry mate my mistake. From your post I assumed you were one of the school-of-Paul-Merson "yeah but ee aint eva won naffink, haz ee?" lot who think winning the Carabao Cup but finishing 7th is a better season than finishing top 4 and reaching the CL final.

Yeah it's hard because as much as it's easy to say we've not won the league, we've still come a long long way between when Jol first took over and where we are now as a club. Not winning the league doesn't take away from that for me, especially in the era of financial doping.
 

easley91

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Sorry mate my mistake. From your post I assumed you were one of the school-of-Paul-Merson "yeah but ee aint eva won naffink, haz ee?" lot who think winning the Carabao Cup but finishing 7th is a better season than finishing top 4 and reaching the CL final.

Yeah it's hard because as much as it's easy to say we've not won the league, we've still come a long long way between when Jol first took over and where we are now as a club. Not winning the league doesn't take away from that for me, especially in the era of financial doping.
Of course, the opposition fans and pundits alike that use the no trophies line as a stick to beat Poch and the club with don't see the progression we have made since Poch came in, and even before so when Jol was in charge (who in my mind was the start of our rise up the league to now).

However, with that being said, there must come a point when we NEED to win a trophy to solidify the progress and to be seen as serious challengers. One UCL final does not change that outlook, especially with the form on the pitch before and after. I do believe that the final came way too early in the 'project' for us (masking the league form severely) and so it may well be seen as a one off to confirm to outsiders that we are the nearly club still and will 'forever' be as such in their eyes.
 

shelfboy68

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You completely mis-understand the point I was making. I'm not even remotely bothered about winning the Carabao Cup or even the FA Cup any more. What I want, after nearly 60 years of following THFC is to see us win the Premier League and become English champions.

As much as I loved Burkenshaw, Jol and Redknapp for what they gave us all as fans in terms of pure excitement, we were nowhere near becoming champions way back then and now, all these years later, we're still nowhere near it, even with what I consider to be our greatest manager since Billy Nick in charge. So loving those guys is one thing, but it gets us nothing.

Ever since the silly money turned up making financially doped clubs out of Chelsea and City, we've been also-rans in the Premier League title race and I hate it. That's what I meant.

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For most of us that is or was the dream but you have to come to terms with this not happening otherwise your just drive yourself nuts.
 

Martin Ledang

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Levy will stick and not twist although poch has lost his way.
Don`t mean to be rude, but I guess neither you or me really know what Levy really thinks. We havn`t been fly on the wall in his office. I guess Levy wanted to show patience and give Poch time, but Levy also knows the numbers and in what direction this goes. I think he`s thinking about what to do right now. Poch is not untouchable forever.
 

shelfboy68

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Don`t mean to be rude, but I guess neither you or me really know what Levy really thinks. We havn`t been fly on the wall in his office. I guess Levy wanted to show patience and give Poch time, but Levy also knows the numbers and in what direction this goes. I think he`s thinking about what to do right now. Poch is not untouchable forever.
I agree and your not being rude none of us know what is good on behind the scenes but on the pitch I think we can all see what is happening and not happening.
 
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