Next Spurs Manager (No longer with groundbreaking 'Change vote' functionality)

[danielneeds]

If he's not going to sack him, then surely it means a mass January overhaul. Or else what's the point in retaining him as coach? Either the troublesome players have to go or Pochettino does.

It’s unrealistic to fix everything in a Jan window. Hopefully Real get so desperate that they bid a decent amount to get Eriksen then. Aurier and Wanyama skulk through the backdoor. Maybe Toby goes, but I think we have to accept that he’s set on a Bosman.

Maybe bring in a DM and RB, but chances are that the top quality players we want won’t be on the market until the summer.

The rebuild will take time. It’s more imporrant to get it right than to panic and buy badly.

 

[TasSpur]

Did last summer not happen to some? The club spent well over £100m last summer and for seemingly the first time in forever didn't have a positive or neutral net spend as we couldn’t have brought in more than £30m. Levy has said there is more to spend. It’s not like we always had this stadium and Levy didn’t touch the bank, we spent within our means and now our means are way higher.

Yep, I get that but Mourinho spent $362M on 11 players at Utd and still complained that he was left short. I agree we have money to spend but would it be enough for Mourinho? He has no record of developing youth...

 

[Flashspur]

Levy is in a tough spot right now. Poch seems to have lost his way and I'm pretty sure Levy doesn't want to sack him, otherwise he'd have done it by now. It would cost us a fortune to sack him in any case. Players seem to have lost faith, others don't seem to give a shit, but Poch maintains that he wants to be here and sort it out. We're heading for a disasterous season right now so what can be done?

If I was Levy I'd consider telling Poch that an assisstant is coming in whether he likes it or not. Somebody with an outside view who has a chance of freshening things up and taking some of the pressure off Poch. It would need to be somebody who's not threatening Poch's place but has a feel, and love for the club and a grasp of what needs to change. I'd have Glenn Hoddle about the place in the short term, and if Poch doesn't like that, he can walk and we go for a new manager.

Could be a recipe for disaster, but let's face it, we're well in the shit as things stand.

Have a heart FFS. Glens just recovered from a heart attack. He doesn’t need another one.

 

[Flashspur]

Be interesting to see how this poll would look if “keep Poch” wasn’t one of the voting options.

Y’know, since it’s not actually possible for the incumbent to be the “next Spurs manager” as per the title of the thread

Yes he is tracking close to Mourinho. It’s compromised the thread somewhat.

 

[beats1]

Yep, I get that but Mourinho spent $362M on 11 players at Utd and still complained that he was left short. I agree we have money to spend but would it be enough for Mourinho? He has no record of developing youth...

Poch has a reputation for developing youth because our team was young whilst Mourinho developed the youngest team to win the premier league

 

[Japhet]

Poch has a reputation for developing youth because our team was young whilst Mourinho developed the youngest team to win the premier league

Don't you mean 'bought' the youngest team?

 

[Metalhead]

If Jose can manage United after Chelsea(after years of title rivalries), theres no reason why he won't/can't manage Spurs. He is not a fan/supporter of any of these clubs.

If you say it is 'widely accepted' he is a dinosaur, it is also 'widely accepted & factual' that he wins at every club.

Poch has had SIX years at helm. I am ok to give him another 6, if team is playing for him. But lets be honest. Our players say they are playing for him , yet we concede 21 goals in 10 games this season & are having relegation form since feb in league.

After the debacle at the weekend it did seem like that might be the straw that broke the camel's back but it does feel now like he won't be going anywhere immediately. I think that DL, apart from clearly respecting Poch will be loathe to risk not just losing an asset but actually paying a lot of money to someone who might end up going to Man U and doing a fantastic job. Clearly we can't go on as we are but it does feel like we haven't reached the end of the road with Poch.

 

[spursfan77]

The players really loved playing for him at Utd didn't they, so much so they got him fired. I don't want to see him at Spurs. Why is it everybody thinks if there foreign they must be good. Personally if Poch goes I would be quite happy to see Eddie Howe or even Dyche given a chance. Nobody knows how good they could be as they have always been with smaller clubs with no real budget but have always managed to keep them in the PL. Mourinho always blames everybody but himself when the going gets tough it wouldn't take long to have a really disgruntled squad even worse than it is now.

Were you one of the ones crying out for Pulis when we sacked AVB?

Unbelievably we had people advocating him then. Dyche now would be the same.

 

[spursfan77]

Check out the Shearer quote when Jose got sacked at Chelsea

"I have never known players to perform like they did last season and then be so bad now. It's unprecedented."

Mourinho sacked as Chelsea manager

Chelsea dismiss manager Jose Mourinho seven months after he led the club to the Premier League title.

www.bbc.co.uk

You do realise it was all to do with the doctor don’t you?

 

[Gassin's finest]

Don't you mean 'bought' the youngest team?

Sort of, certainly with the likes of Drogba and Robben. But Jose has always said that his favourite players have been Lampard and Terry.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

Just to be clear, you'd actually rather Sean Dyche than Jose Mourinho?

Fucking hell...

I'd rather you than Mourinho.

 

[SPURSLIFE]

No man.. Dyche. Dyche of Burnley, he's won the square root of nothing. Why aim so low? As a club and a fan base we have to show greater ambition than go for Dyche. No no no. It's a terrible idea. I'm going to have nightmares.

He's won nothing because they give him nothing. He has to sell his best players and he still keeps them in the PL. All I was saying is that he and Howe have worked miracles at clubs with very limited resources what could they do at a bigger club. I'm not saying I would want Dyche although I wouldn't object to Howe but I just don't want Mourinho.

 

[PLTuck]

This thread seems extremely premature to me, but I'm one of the few that would like Howe should Poch be given the heave-ho. For the naysayers, look back 5 years on this forum and see how many people said the same things about Poch that some are now saying about Howe. "unproven at top level", "never had a big job", "iffy transfers" and so on.

 

[arunspurs]

After the debacle at the weekend it did seem like that might be the straw that broke the camel's back but it does feel now like he won't be going anywhere immediately. I think that DL, apart from clearly respecting Poch will be loathe to risk not just losing an asset but actually paying a lot of money to someone who might end up going to Man U and doing a fantastic job. Clearly we can't go on as we are but it does feel like we haven't reached the end of the road with Poch.

For now, this whole thread is hypothetical in nature. There are fans who feel we may need a change so nothing in wrong in giving a space for those who want to discuss a possible situation and outcome.

While I have strongly argued here for Jose (or Rafa) IF we let go Poch, I have had a chance to digest the recent results & performances and had a rethink.

I am not against Poch getting some more time. At some level, he has been unlucky. His new signings Lo Celso & Sess have not started a game. Same for Foyth, who was meant to be Trippier successor (atleast going by preseason).

I don't mind all Poch getting time to play his new players & formation. Hopefully all 3 get fit by this break.But if he has to have the opportunity to make changes in Jan, our current form cannot continue. He need to get the team performing in next 17 games.

 

[WiganSpur]

It’s unrealistic to fix everything in a Jan window. Hopefully Real get so desperate that they bid a decent amount to get Eriksen then. Aurier and Wanyama skulk through the backdoor. Maybe Toby goes, but I think we have to accept that he’s set on a Bosman.

Maybe bring in a DM and RB, but chances are that the top quality players we want won’t be on the market until the summer.

The rebuild will take time. It’s more imporrant to get it right than to panic and buy badly.

I agree, I think it would be more selling than buying at this point. But it would be good to get a couple in. 'Write off' this season and aim for a positive outlook on the next one, maybe push for 4th if possible this season.

We wouldn't have to replace the Belgians or Eriksen just yet, even Sessegnon could replace Rose. We'd need a right back though at minimum.

Seems like we're looking at shifting the Belgians, Rose, Aurier, Wanyama and Eriksen. All of them going is unlikely but it's possible we can get rid of some of them.

 

[Shadydan]

This thread seems extremely premature to me, but I'm one of the few that would like Howe should Poch be given the heave-ho. For the naysayers, look back 5 years on this forum and see how many people said the same things about Poch that some are now saying about Howe. "unproven at top level", "never had a big job", "iffy transfers" and so on.

Okay I don't see how people don't understand our current position and world standing as a football club:

Arguably the best football stadium in Europe, one of the best training grounds in the world, playing in the best league in the world, Record turnover profits, currently 3rd best squad in the league, London based team and 4 Champions League qualifications on the spin etc...

And people want Eddie Howe and Sean Dyche, do me a fucking favour lol

We're not the team we were 5 years ago, we've come on leaps and bounds on and off the pitch since then and should be attracting top level coaches like Mourinho or Allegri. We need to face up to reality, we're a big club and we need to act like it.

 

[PLTuck]

Okay I don't see how people don't understand our current position and world standing as a football club:

Arguably the best football stadium in Europe, one of the best training grounds in the world, playing in the best league in the world, Record turnover profits, currently 3rd best squad in the league, London based team and 4 Champions League qualifications on the spin etc...

And people want Eddie Howe and Sean Dyche, do me a fucking favour lol

We're not the team we were 5 years ago, we've come on leaps and bounds on and off the pitch since then and should be attracting top level coaches like Mourinho or Allegri. We need to face up to reality, we're a big club and we need to act like it.

Understand your viewpoint but in defence Allegri has never managed outside of Italy, and Mourinho comes with a circus act attached. I wouldn't be totally against either of those two but I don't think it's quite as black and white as some believe.

Of course this is all hypothetical as ultimately I'd like Poch to stay.

 

[Shadydan]

Understand your viewpoint but in defence Allegri has never managed outside of Italy, and Mourinho comes with a circus act attached. I wouldn't be totally against either of those two but I don't think it's quite as black and white as some believe.

Of course this is all hypothetical as ultimately I'd like Poch to stay.

Klopp and Pep had never managed in the Prem before they arrived here.

And as much as Mourinho has left on bad terms in his last few clubs he wins trophies, that cannot be denied.

 

[PLTuck]

Klopp and Pep had never managed in the Prem before they arrived here.

And as much as Mourinho has left on bad terms in his last few clubs he wins trophies, that cannot be denied.

Yeah good points. Should the worst happen I wouldn't be averse to Mourinho for a year or two or going for Allegri. Personally I'd like Howe (not Dyche though!) but can understand to a degree why people would be against him. I guess my point is that no-one is a guaranteed success, regardless of their pedigree.

I just hope that whatever happens, we get behind whoever is manager.

 

[Metalhead]

For now, this whole thread is hypothetical in nature. There are fans who feel we may need a change so nothing in wrong in giving a space for those who want to discuss a possible situation and outcome.

While I have strongly argued here for Jose (or Rafa) IF we let go Poch, I have had a chance to digest the recent results & performances and had a rethink.

I am not against Poch getting some more time. At some level, he has been unlucky. His new signings Lo Celso & Sess have not started a game. Same for Foyth, who was meant to be Trippier successor (atleast going by preseason).

I don't mind all Poch getting time to play his new players & formation. Hopefully all 3 get fit by this break.But if he has to have the opportunity to make changes in Jan, our current form cannot continue. He need to get the team performing in next 17 games.

You're right there. whatever happens something needs to change. Poch has always been the one to constantly emphasise the word 'brave' and if ever there was time it is now.