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TaoistMonkey

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Oct 25, 2005
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Seat fixings :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

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like2eatpie

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Jul 22, 2008
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Compression ring? Can you please explain to this dumb schmuck!

Seriously I don't know what this is


Courtesy of Norskire on SSC, hope this helps.....!


A few observations about the roof (and people still thinking they are looking at "compression ring" components).

Regarding the South Stand roof supports assembly, the construction seems totally in line with the projected finished build - in that the slighter build framework protruding from the vertical over the void would appear to be those on which the roof perimeter panelling (which in all drawings protrudes) will be attached. These are bolted on to rather more substantial balusters in areas where these are required to transfer downward load directly into the concrete build below and thus match the height level of the steel build segments elsewhere in the stadium reaching the same horizontal, this providing a uniform height for all the load-bearing points of attachment for the actual roof.

It's important to remember that what they are doing now is beginning the assembly of the roof support system, and not the roof, which is essentially a giant matrix designed to transfer transverse load to the perimeter which then is relayed through the vertical support structure to the vertical and down into the superstructure, part of which you are looking closely at as it will appear on the new South Stand.

It is this transverse load which is addressed primarily by use of compression ring components, but it is also important to remember that compression ring theory, once applied to an oval, and once accommodating a hub void of considerable size, is not enough on its own to effectively deal with transverse load transfer,or vertical load at all. Where the radius permits (at the northern and southern ends of this oval) the components which shall constitute the "rings" (plural - inner and outer rings are involved) will be vital, and will very likely arrive ready-constructed having been tested elsewhere for their tensile strength and performance. The western and eastern roof sections will certainly link these structures but will play almost no role in dissipating transverse thrust to them, being reliant almost completely on their own tensile strength and lattice supports at the ends where they meet the main structure.

Or put simply - we are not looking at compression ring assembly. Not yet, and not by a long shot. We are looking at preparation for receiving this assembly in a few months time. Those who say they can see "compression ring" parts arriving onsite are either unaware of what these actually are or are people who I really want to be friends with before I next play the National Lottery.

Hereendeththelesson
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kmk

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Oct 5, 2014
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Courtesy of Norskire on SSC, hope this helps.....!


A few observations about the roof (and people still thinking they are looking at "compression ring" components).

Regarding the South Stand roof supports assembly, the construction seems totally in line with the projected finished build - in that the slighter build framework protruding from the vertical over the void would appear to be those on which the roof perimeter panelling (which in all drawings protrudes) will be attached. These are bolted on to rather more substantial balusters in areas where these are required to transfer downward load directly into the concrete build below and thus match the height level of the steel build segments elsewhere in the stadium reaching the same horizontal, this providing a uniform height for all the load-bearing points of attachment for the actual roof.

It's important to remember that what they are doing now is beginning the assembly of the roof support system, and not the roof, which is essentially a giant matrix designed to transfer transverse load to the perimeter which then is relayed through the vertical support structure to the vertical and down into the superstructure, part of which you are looking closely at as it will appear on the new South Stand.

It is this transverse load which is addressed primarily by use of compression ring components, but it is also important to remember that compression ring theory, once applied to an oval, and once accommodating a hub void of considerable size, is not enough on its own to effectively deal with transverse load transfer,or vertical load at all. Where the radius permits (at the northern and southern ends of this oval) the components which shall constitute the "rings" (plural - inner and outer rings are involved) will be vital, and will very likely arrive ready-constructed having been tested elsewhere for their tensile strength and performance. The western and eastern roof sections will certainly link these structures but will play almost no role in dissipating transverse thrust to them, being reliant almost completely on their own tensile strength and lattice supports at the ends where they meet the main structure.

Or put simply - we are not looking at compression ring assembly. Not yet, and not by a long shot. We are looking at preparation for receiving this assembly in a few months time. Those who say they can see "compression ring" parts arriving onsite are either unaware of what these actually are or are people who I really want to be friends with before I next play the National Lottery.

Hereendeththelesson
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worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
Jan 23, 2006
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I just went onto googlemaps to see what it shows over the ground and it is some way behind, I thought I'd try streetview in case that was more up to date, on the contrary it is still stuck back in 2010, a shame you may think, as did I but then it hit me that I was looking at and walking around the ground that no longer exists and it became just a little bit emotional.
Not sure if everyone knows but streetview also has a circuit of the pitch inside the ground, of general interest up until a year ago but now an absolutely wonderful little bit of history and it occurred to me that people have been taking a virtual tour of the new ground but wouldn't it be great if the club could use this to create a virtual tour of the old White Hart Lane for fans in the future to take.
I wonder if the club has thought of this, does anyone know? Maybe they have done and filmed it all before the end, wouldn't it be good if they have, imagine young fans in thirty years time being able to sit in the ground circa 2017, even where their old grandad used to sit maybe:)
 

Bulletspur

The Reasonable Advocate
Match Thread Admin
Oct 17, 2006
10,690
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Courtesy of Norskire on SSC, hope this helps.....!


A few observations about the roof (and people still thinking they are looking at "compression ring" components).

Regarding the South Stand roof supports assembly, the construction seems totally in line with the projected finished build - in that the slighter build framework protruding from the vertical over the void would appear to be those on which the roof perimeter panelling (which in all drawings protrudes) will be attached. These are bolted on to rather more substantial balusters in areas where these are required to transfer downward load directly into the concrete build below and thus match the height level of the steel build segments elsewhere in the stadium reaching the same horizontal, this providing a uniform height for all the load-bearing points of attachment for the actual roof.

It's important to remember that what they are doing now is beginning the assembly of the roof support system, and not the roof, which is essentially a giant matrix designed to transfer transverse load to the perimeter which then is relayed through the vertical support structure to the vertical and down into the superstructure, part of which you are looking closely at as it will appear on the new South Stand.

It is this transverse load which is addressed primarily by use of compression ring components, but it is also important to remember that compression ring theory, once applied to an oval, and once accommodating a hub void of considerable size, is not enough on its own to effectively deal with transverse load transfer,or vertical load at all. Where the radius permits (at the northern and southern ends of this oval) the components which shall constitute the "rings" (plural - inner and outer rings are involved) will be vital, and will very likely arrive ready-constructed having been tested elsewhere for their tensile strength and performance. The western and eastern roof sections will certainly link these structures but will play almost no role in dissipating transverse thrust to them, being reliant almost completely on their own tensile strength and lattice supports at the ends where they meet the main structure.

Or put simply - we are not looking at compression ring assembly. Not yet, and not by a long shot. We are looking at preparation for receiving this assembly in a few months time. Those who say they can see "compression ring" parts arriving onsite are either unaware of what these actually are or are people who I really want to be friends with before I next play the National Lottery.

Hereendeththelesson
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@like2eatpie my dear chap, thanks for the effort, but I am none the wiser!
 

4shambles

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Jun 7, 2004
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Me neither

The last paragraph is all you need to read really:

"Or put simply - we are not looking at compression ring assembly. Not yet, and not by a long shot. We are looking at preparation for receiving this assembly in a few months time. Those who say they can see "compression ring" parts arriving onsite are unaware of what these actually are"
 

DiscoD1882

SC Supporter
Mar 27, 2006
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Courtesy of Norskire on SSC, hope this helps.....!


A few observations about the roof (and people still thinking they are looking at "compression ring" components).

Regarding the South Stand roof supports assembly, the construction seems totally in line with the projected finished build - in that the slighter build framework protruding from the vertical over the void would appear to be those on which the roof perimeter panelling (which in all drawings protrudes) will be attached. These are bolted on to rather more substantial balusters in areas where these are required to transfer downward load directly into the concrete build below and thus match the height level of the steel build segments elsewhere in the stadium reaching the same horizontal, this providing a uniform height for all the load-bearing points of attachment for the actual roof.

It's important to remember that what they are doing now is beginning the assembly of the roof support system, and not the roof, which is essentially a giant matrix designed to transfer transverse load to the perimeter which then is relayed through the vertical support structure to the vertical and down into the superstructure, part of which you are looking closely at as it will appear on the new South Stand.

It is this transverse load which is addressed primarily by use of compression ring components, but it is also important to remember that compression ring theory, once applied to an oval, and once accommodating a hub void of considerable size, is not enough on its own to effectively deal with transverse load transfer,or vertical load at all. Where the radius permits (at the northern and southern ends of this oval) the components which shall constitute the "rings" (plural - inner and outer rings are involved) will be vital, and will very likely arrive ready-constructed having been tested elsewhere for their tensile strength and performance. The western and eastern roof sections will certainly link these structures but will play almost no role in dissipating transverse thrust to them, being reliant almost completely on their own tensile strength and lattice supports at the ends where they meet the main structure.

Or put simply - we are not looking at compression ring assembly. Not yet, and not by a long shot. We are looking at preparation for receiving this assembly in a few months time. Those who say they can see "compression ring" parts arriving onsite are either unaware of what these actually are or are people who I really want to be friends with before I next play the National Lottery.

Hereendeththelesson
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I love lamp
 

stevenurse

Palacios' neck fat
May 14, 2007
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The new shots from the official twitter account are incredible. Looks like the roof is already starting to take shape (or at least three beginning of it). Although maybe that's been there ages and I hadn't noticed it.

Im amazed at the progress since the last game. Fair play to them. I was definitely a sceptic to think it'll be done in around a year, and still am to an extent but this has got me more optimistic.
 

Dougal

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Jun 4, 2004
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It's crazy to think that despite the size and the complexity of the project it will actually be finished before my garden despite The Wife's constant nagging.
 

spids

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Jul 19, 2015
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Don't think that's the roof. The roof will go between what you see and the cabs of the cranes. It's a monster stadium for sure!
 

mark87

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Nov 29, 2004
36,032
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Stadium is shaping up very nicely.

Has there been any info on it being on schedule? Or ahead or behind?
 

stevenurse

Palacios' neck fat
May 14, 2007
6,089
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Don't think that's the roof. The roof will go between what you see and the cabs of the cranes. It's a monster stadium for sure!

Figured as much. Didn't really know what to call them. I'm guessing "sidey winding things" isn't the technical term.

Yeah it's gonna be an absolute monster. If it's as steep relative to the height it's gonna create an incredible atmosphere.
 

TottenhamLegend

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Jun 13, 2012
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I just went onto googlemaps to see what it shows over the ground and it is some way behind, I thought I'd try streetview in case that was more up to date, on the contrary it is still stuck back in 2010, a shame you may think, as did I but then it hit me that I was looking at and walking around the ground that no longer exists and it became just a little bit emotional.
Not sure if everyone knows but streetview also has a circuit of the pitch inside the ground, of general interest up until a year ago but now an absolutely wonderful little bit of history and it occurred to me that people have been taking a virtual tour of the new ground but wouldn't it be great if the club could use this to create a virtual tour of the old White Hart Lane for fans in the future to take.
I wonder if the club has thought of this, does anyone know? Maybe they have done and filmed it all before the end, wouldn't it be good if they have, imagine young fans in thirty years time being able to sit in the ground circa 2017, even where their old grandad used to sit maybe:)
The Streetview is May 2016 too. There's a scroller thing in the top left when you're on street view which you can move to take you through photos taken at different points in time. Even though it's only going back to 2009, it's very nostalgic taking it back and seeing Paxton Road in it's old state, with all the factory buildings behind it etc.
 
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